Mini 2106 - Magia Record Fate Weave Semi-U-Pick (OVER!)

[Farkran]

I said yesterday I feel as if Farkran KNOWS im town.

Thats really the only way I can see him hard tr’ing like he has

It looks like he’s trying to set you up as his buddy once he flips.

He also had pops as town until she voted farkran

I mean, it's pretty evident that he doesn't even care about what i say - i explained in detail why i did a 180° on my read of pops in 1518-1574. Pops analysis is lazy and unfitting of her town profile. It's completely different from what salamence did on me.

[Salamence20]

And yet, all of that stuff happened after pops vote on you

[Farkran]

I don’t generally go out on a limb for anyone wrongly hardscum reading me, unless I have a hard inno on them or something. Fmpov, if I think someone is wrongly pushing me, I may not outright sr them for it but hard defending them for it, wouldn’t be the first of my concerns, unless of course I was in no real danger of being wagoned, which you clearly are.

Ok, i tried to tell you that your premise is wrong but you don't seem to get the point, so i'll just ask you directly:

Who am i defending salamence from? He has no votes cast on him besides kerset's. Salamence is no way near danger. My question was directed at

kerset

because what

kerset

did made little sense to me. I would have said the same about anyone else not being severa or pops, not just salamence.

[Salamence20]

I just realized pops left out Farkran out of her reads list.

Farkran is scummy. He is doing a reliable job of mimicking his high level of analysis he has as town, but the analysis is seems low quality/wrong too often, in ways where it'd be okay if it happened once but over and over it seems like he's being forced to scumread town or townread scum or use the correct answer and work backwards.
Salamence pointed out Venus and Mars are sheeping less than Alchemist, but I would go way further and say nothing about V&M iso is particularly sheepy, V&M has one of the more independent isos to me. Accusing them of being sheepy for reaching the same

conclusions

of other players seems like something that would only occur to a Farkran that is frustrated by a correctly identified townblock or delighting in teasing a slot for making the same misread the rest of the game is.
Sorry he missed my late night readslist.

VOTE: Farkran

Holy shit pops is scum.

Farkran is scummy. He is doing a reliable job of mimicking his high level of analysis he has as town, but the analysis is seems low quality/wrong too often, in ways where it'd be okay if it happened once but over and over it seems like he's being forced to scumread town or townread scum or use the correct answer and work backwards.
Salamence pointed out Venus and Mars are sheeping less than Alchemist, but I would go way further and say nothing about V&M iso is particularly sheepy, V&M has one of the more independent isos to me. Accusing them of being sheepy for reaching the same

conclusions

of other players seems like something that would only occur to a Farkran that is frustrated by a correctly identified townblock or delighting in teasing a slot for making the same misread the rest of the game is.
Sorry he missed my late night readslist.

This does not make sense... v&m did not reach the same conclusions of other players, they're evidently being tunneled and reading others out of consensus bias. No way you would not notice that. Me and v&m is pretty clearly TvT from your pov.

Salamence, i think he's town but refuses to even try not taking something at face value, he

absolutely

needs to be removed before lylo because scum are never going to kill him. Same about V&M.

Kerset is still town and disaligned from pops, who is probably pocketing him then? Does it make sense for alchemist not to realize that? @alchemist why are you aligning pops and kerset for specifically the reason why you should disalign them?

Bitmap... pops has been SRing him the whole game but does not want to commit into voting him. Bitmap has been consistently pointing out scumtells from pops (even when there weren't any) so i think they're disaligned and that makes bitmap town?

Suji is probably independently town

Chemist might be associated to pops, too little content to determine.

Gamma, same as chemist, but i would guess pops' slight SR of her might be either distancing or maintaining a window of opportunity to lynch her later if he's town.

TL... is pretty much the same as bitmap in this scenario? Would TL hard-townread pops if they were scum together? I think not, i wouldn't expect that from scum!TL.

Severa... is town if scum!pops.

That leaves me with Evenstar, who makes sense in bussing position against pops when she's wagoned... and possibly {gamma, chemist}.

VOTE: pops

[Farkran]

Yeah, salamence, i am scum and i omgus people for no reason.

I wonder why i didn't omgus you too, since you have voted me before pops did.

I'll try again: open your eyes, or you will feel bad after this game.

[Venus and Mars]

I said yesterday I feel as if Farkran KNOWS im town.

Thats really the only way I can see him hard tr’ing like he has

This kind of push usually comes from town, for instance. He is consistent about his push on me, and it matches his profile of superficiality that i've been deducing ever since the beginning of this game. I don't KNOW he is town, i just assume he is.

I also haven't been defending him from any attack - rather, i've been asking about the motives behind votes against him (only kerset so far), and it was not so much because the vote was set on salamence specifically but because kerset refused to take a stance on the severa vs pops situation, which is kinda bad coming from the town!kerset i know. I would have thought he'd either maintain his death tunnel on severa, or turn against pops.

Why would you think this? If Kerset is tr you, wouldn’t it then be logical for her to be suspicious of those on your wagon?

[Kerset]

Mars where are you about Fark rn? You seems to questions him more then deeply. Is it because you are still very uncertain about his slot or wish to show us something?

[Farkran]

Kerset is not TRing me, he has been pretty much adamant about that

[Venus and Mars]

Yeah, salamence, i am scum and i omgus people for no reason.

I wonder why i didn't omgus you too, since you have voted me before pops did.

I'll try again: open your eyes, or you will feel bad after this game.

Pops was the lead wagon for a thousand, Alex?

[Salamence20]

Yeah, salamence, i am scum and i omgus people for no reason.

You did. Remember the Venus vote too?

I wonder why i didn't omgus you too, since you have voted me before pops did.

Because you think/know Im town and havent wavered from that read despite saying things like “needs to be removed.”

I'll try again: open your eyes, or you will feel bad after this game.

Kerset open your eyes. Hopefully saying that gets him to vote you.

[Venus and Mars]

Mars where are you about Fark rn? You seems to questions him more then deeply. Is it because you are still very uncertain about his slot or wish to show us something?

I’m finding it strange how he confiscums Pops yet insists on tr others on his wagon and now, he’s expressing bewilderment on you for logically being suspicious of those on his wagon, when you’re tr him - looks like.

You disagree with this?

[Venus and Mars]

Yeah, salamence, i am scum and i omgus people for no reason.

You did. Remember the Venus vote too?

I wonder why i didn't omgus you too, since you have voted me before pops did.

Because you think/know Im town and havent wavered from that read despite saying things like “needs to be removed.”

I'll try again: open your eyes, or you will feel bad after this game.

Kerset open your eyes. Hopefully saying that gets him to vote you.

I thought that initially but now it definitely doesn’t look like Fakran and Kerset are linked.

[Farkran]

Yeah, salamence, i am scum and i omgus people for no reason.

I wonder why i didn't omgus you too, since you have voted me before pops did.

I'll try again: open your eyes, or you will feel bad after this game.

Pops was the lead wagon for a thousand, Alex?

Yeah, salamence, i am scum and i omgus people for no reason.

You did. Remember the Venus vote too?

I wonder why i didn't omgus you too, since you have voted me before pops did.

Because you think/know Im town and havent wavered from that read despite saying things like “needs to be removed.”

I'll try again: open your eyes, or you will feel bad after this game.

Kerset open your eyes. Hopefully saying that gets him to vote you.

So, uh, V&M are now saying that i voted pops but not salamence because pops was the lead wagon. I assume this means i have been selective about who i omgussed, to maximize my chances to deflect the wagon on me onto someone who was being generally scumread.

Salamence instead accuses me that i am a compulsive omgusser because i voted V&M after they voted me.

Lol. If you haven't realized yet, that's how superficial you are being with your read on me. You are contradicting yourselves even without my intervention.

I strongly suggest that you drop your tunnel and go reread our exchanges with a cold mind

[Salamence20]

I think Farkran is scum, Alchemist is scum with him, and then Chemist/Bitmap/TL/Kerset for wild cards.

Theres no way Alch/Chem is TT, I dont think The HOOD(tm) is all town.

This is still my position.

[Farkran]

Yeah. Make sure you don't ever change that. You don't want to admit you're wrong, otherwise the other children will look down upon you. Keep your head high!

[Salamence20]

Well Im not voting pops at this time and no one gives a shit about alch today so?

[Kerset]

Mars where are you about Fark rn? You seems to questions him more then deeply. Is it because you are still very uncertain about his slot or wish to show us something?

I’m finding it strange how he confiscums Pops yet insists on tr others on his wagon and now, he’s expressing bewilderment on you for logically being suspicious of those on his wagon, when you’re tr him - looks like.

You disagree with this?

I just disagree with your methods. You won't get valuable explanation by digging in every sentence, at this point you are rather trying to discredit him.

[Venus and Mars]

Yeah, salamence, i am scum and i omgus people for no reason.

I wonder why i didn't omgus you too, since you have voted me before pops did.

I'll try again: open your eyes, or you will feel bad after this game.

Pops was the lead wagon for a thousand, Alex?

Yeah, salamence, i am scum and i omgus people for no reason.

You did. Remember the Venus vote too?

I wonder why i didn't omgus you too, since you have voted me before pops did.

Because you think/know Im town and havent wavered from that read despite saying things like “needs to be removed.”

I'll try again: open your eyes, or you will feel bad after this game.

Kerset open your eyes. Hopefully saying that gets him to vote you.

So, uh, V&M are now saying that i voted pops but not salamence because pops was the lead wagon. I assume this means i have been selective about who i omgussed, to maximize my chances to deflect the wagon on me onto someone who was being generally scumread.

Salamence instead accuses me that i am a compulsive omgusser because i voted V&M after they voted me.

Lol. If you haven't realized yet, that's how superficial you are being with your read on me. You are contradicting yourselves even without my intervention.

I strongly suggest that you drop your tunnel and go reread our exchanges with a cold mind

When you’re being sr by more than one person, do you entirely disagree that it looks opportunistic to vote the lead wagon or do you maintain, you’d still 100% be voting Pops, even if she weren’t?

It’s not a “tunnel”, I’m honestly trying to understand your motivations here.

[Venus and Mars]

Mars where are you about Fark rn? You seems to questions him more then deeply. Is it because you are still very uncertain about his slot or wish to show us something?

I’m finding it strange how he confiscums Pops yet insists on tr others on his wagon and now, he’s expressing bewilderment on you for logically being suspicious of those on his wagon, when you’re tr him - looks like.

You disagree with this?

I just disagree with your methods. You won't get valuable explanation by digging in every sentence, at this point you are rather trying to discredit him.

I’m clearly not. I’m obviously not sure of my vote - which is on him - and trying to get clarification on it. I thought that should be overwhelmingly obvious.

[Venus and Mars]

Mars where are you about Fark rn? You seems to questions him more then deeply. Is it because you are still very uncertain about his slot or wish to show us something?

I’m finding it strange how he confiscums Pops yet insists on tr others on his wagon and now, he’s expressing bewilderment on you for logically being suspicious of those on his wagon, when you’re tr him - looks like.

You disagree with this?

I just disagree with your methods. You won't get valuable explanation by digging in every sentence, at this point you are rather trying to discredit him.

I’m clearly not. I’m obviously not sure of my vote - which is on him - and trying to get clarification on it. I thought that should be overwhelmingly obvious.

This is obviously not how I scumcase a slot, so how either you or Fakran can view this as any kind of a tunnel, really blows my mind. When I scumcase a slot, I find a bunch of their quotes, which appear scummy to me and use them to convince others to sheep me. I am clearly not doing this.

[Kerset]

Salamence i don't like your OMG responses. I am not saying that you can't disagree with everything but i would rather like you to have self-doubt reflections. If you approach allegation with assumption that you are virtuous, it won't be productive talk.

[Venus and Mars]

I want to sort him. I could just leave my vote on him and say nothing, couldn’t I? But I require answers which I’m not really getting for one reason or another.

[Venus and Mars]

I want to sort him. I could just leave my vote on him and say nothing, couldn’t I? But I require answers which I’m not really getting for one reason or another.

More accurately, ones that satisfy me.

[Kerset]

Mars you are trying to get clarification of clarification of clarification of clarification of clarification of clarification.

[Venus and Mars]

Mars you are trying to get clarification of clarification of clarification of clarification of clarification of clarification.

His answers are not helping me read him and I’m finding that extremely frustrating because I don’t have the clear read I’d prefer.