Newbie 1967 | GAME OVER

[RadiantCowbells]

I think you're better than this and that's pretty much all that I think that I need to say.

[RadiantCowbells]

Also you didn't call me scum until I voted you

[gobbledygook]

And you don't suck this fucking bad at reading as town.

Also note that he's townpooling Skitter (who has recently expressed that his reason to scumread me made sense even though it didn't) and basically everyone not on the wagon

He changed his mind on you because he thinks he can get you to paranoia vote me.

Essentially he's saying you're worse than me

You should get mad and push him twice as hard

These are all either dramatizations, misrepresentation, or paranoia.

VOTE: RadiantCowbells

[gobbledygook]

Also you didn't call me scum until I voted you

This is also not true. You were never in my town pools. I also made sure not to give any further indication that I thought you were scum because I wanted to see if you would self-propel and I wanted to prevent the game from devolving into a 1v1 which it somehow always does.

[RadiantCowbells]

Ok scum

[gobbledygook]

Ok boomer

[gobbledygook]

I think that RC has approached this game more trying to manage other players rather than truly scumhunt. His reads at times seemed to follow general consensus rather than being a building block to that general consensus. You can see this with the way he waffles on Bugspray.

[RadiantCowbells]

Note the lack of response to his misrepresentation of me not wanting Bugspray more, his misrepresentation of my activity from this game to Masquerade, his lack of response to how much sense my progression actually makes and his complete avoidance of saying anything meaningful about Bugspray except "too scummy to be scum", etc.

[RadiantCowbells]

You're essentially saying I'm scum because I didn't brute Force a Bugspray lynch over you calling him town and over Skitter saying she doesn't want to play with me brute forcing lynches.

[RadiantCowbells]

And "waffles on Bugspray" what?

I had one turn on Bugspray. I townread him for activity at the start and closeread him later and hard scumread him. One read shift. No waffle.

[gobbledygook]

my third would be the late pvturist but i'm not sure if i'm reading him correctly on account of the fact that i'm mostly scumreading him for having a bad iso when most people have bad isos this game

In other news, nae and lovebird are town

We can work from this I think

I think how RC handled his PvtUrist/Lovebird read here is potentially telling that Lovebird is his partner.

[RadiantCowbells]

Unless you're implying that me voting you over him LARGELY BECAUSE YOUR INTERACTIONS WITH THEM ARE FUCKING TERRIBLE is waffling on my read on them, but I don't think anyone here believes that

That's a terrible read. I do fancy shit with my partners. You know that. You're pushing me on stuff that looks like reasonable low level reasoning, not the kind of thing you'd actually believe that scum me would do.

[RadiantCowbells]

Essentially gobbledygook is trying to say stuff that sounds reasonable enough to get a townread. He's not actually trying to read me or the long list of holes I've poked in his case on me would have been meaningfully addressed. He's scum, kill it with no claim, bye.

[RadiantCowbells]

I can do this all day man.

You can waste my time and deprive me of sleep but if this is your scum ceiling you're just wasting your time

[RadiantCowbells]

Also note that he even said my activity is established as highly AI for me

I have been the most active player in this game and my points of highest investment have been the points I most get drawn in as town.

His case on me is a towncase, from the activity comments to him calling me out for not going for Bugspray instead. But in reality the evidence in both cases is that I'm town and he handwaved not reading closely enough to see that with 'waah I'm bad at day 1'. Bullshit. Gobbledygook had triple correct scumreads in masquerade, I'm a fucking great player if I do say so myself and only 2/3 of my top scumreads out of 16 were scum.

A player with that level of competency doesn't call me scum for inactivity when I'm active, doesn't call me out for not voting Bugspray when I tried to get him to vote bugspray, and frankly doesn't push me for level 0 scumplayer logic when he knows I'm good enough to have associatives with my level buddy such that an obvious "waffle into townread" isn't going to catch me. And frankly the read switch was obviously because of the sub out so reading into that at all is ???

[gobbledygook]

I can do this all day man.

You can waste my time and deprive me of sleep but if this is your scum ceiling you're just wasting your time

Why is it only a waste of time if I’m scum, but not a waste of time if I’m town?

[RadiantCowbells]

Dont let him out a PR. Just hammer

[RadiantCowbells]

I can do this all day man.

You can waste my time and deprive me of sleep but if this is your scum ceiling you're just wasting your time

Why is it only a waste of time if I’m scum, but not a waste of time if I’m town?

Oh it's a waste of time either way

But in this case you're scum

[RadiantCowbells]

The difference is as scum you should selfhammer to antispew tbh, but I get the vibe you're too proud for that.

[gobbledygook]

To your point about my competency, I was only that accurate after 4 townies suicided and then there were 3 scum in 13 people. I mainly scumhunt through Process of Elimination because I am better at finding town than I am at finding scum.

[RadiantCowbells]

It doesn't take a lot of townhunting proficiency to realize that I'm town here, so nah.

[gobbledygook]

The difference is as scum you should selfhammer to antispew tbh, but I get the vibe you're too proud for that.

1. I am town, so I will not be doing that.
2. I would actually do that depending on the circumstances. As scum though, I would claim a PR to draw a PR.

[RadiantCowbells]

You even know exact what to look for

My read progressions and my activity

By both measures I've played to what you've claimed my town play was and before you outed your perception of my town play so I can't even have played to your meta read.

And yet you choose to call me scum anyway like scumreading me is some kind of choice as opposed to a function of the evidence

[RadiantCowbells]

Like come on

'you should be going after Bugspray instead'
'you should be more active'

"I'm the most active by far, and at the point where I became active in the game you're using as meta evidence, and I was literally going after Bugspray and trying to get you to vote him"

'yeah but still scum tho'

[gobbledygook]

Can you explain why you suspect PvTurist and Bugspray? What exactly do you think is scummy about Arkias calling himself scum?

i don't agree because bugspray is commenting on things whereas arkias is throwing out reads.

At this point RC is apparently scumreading Bugspray, but using language that implies otherwise. Either way, this leads to waffle 1 in the next post.

Starting to come around to townreading bugspray

This is waffle 1.

Like I can't say I want to see xyz or you're scum because that's not how the game works.

On reread I don't like Bugspray very much.

This is waffle 2.

kk

VOTE: bugspray

pretty damn sure this is scum.