Guns & Roses III [Game over]

[Menalque]

I find it weird that people are looking for excuses to TR me tbh

[Something_Smart]

I find it weird that people are looking for excuses to TR me tbh

Towny paranoia

[Menalque]

I think there’s scum in (sally, GL)

[Menalque]

We can go for this first VOTE: GL

[Menalque]

@GL do you think 35 was genuine?

Why ask this of GL in particular?

Ask me this again later

Can you answer this yet?

Yes, I wanted to know if he voted dats in 38 for memes or not

I don’t think dats’ thing about there being 3 scum was AI any more than I think me listing 2 scum is AI for me

The fact that he used it to justify a semi serious vote is opportunistic

[Menalque]

I think we played one game together where I nailed you as scum on your replace-in, but then you successfully argued your way out of it to the point where I townread you and then lost as a result. No love lost at all though, you played well

Was this Let’s Talk About An On-Going game?

nah it was Charging Up

@GL do you think 35 was genuine?

I thought it was presented in a joking manner (and Salamence has since said it was RVS/joke) but personally

I viewed it as something that's worth a non-RVS vote and I was kinda hoping Salamence felt the same

. I think if you genuinely forgot when posting that there were 3 scum then that's a townslip and Datisi pointing it out yet without any thought to your alignment feels like something scum might do.

Also thought this was super noncommittal and I also think GL would be quite likely to want me to TR him after nomination mafia

[Something_Smart]

I kind of think that opportunistic votes on page 2, even if serious, are not scum indicative.

[Menalque]

Okay, why?

Like if he’d just blown it off as wanting to generate pressure I’d prob handwave it

It’s the combination of it “being worth a non-RVS vote” but not really going beyond that that makes the opportunism seem scummy to me

Like wanting to be seen to do something beyond RVS

[Menalque]

Seems like a honest read, and I was waiting for something serious to happen. I like quick RVS.

I thought it was p obviously a joke tho

I didn't tho

Do you mean creature’s SR in you or your original post?

Bc when I said I thought it was p obviously a joke I was talking about your vote in dats

[DogWatch]

maybe i'm not seeing it from the perspective of someone who thinks he's being buddied, but GL's iso looks sound to me

unvoting my rvs

UNVOTE: GL

[Something_Smart]

Opportunism is voting someone for a weak reason. For a player looking to vote in the very early game, they have no reasons but weak reasons, regardless of alignment. So if it's GL's nature to try to get a serious vote down asap, then it's completely expected for him to jump on the first scrap of content he can find.

[Something_Smart]

It’s the combination of it “being worth a non-RVS vote” but not really going beyond that that makes the opportunism seem scummy to me

What do you mean "not really going beyond that"?

[Salamence20]

I think there’s scum in (sally, GL)

I think youre wrong on both cases.

Id love to hear why Im scum though, did you find something in masquerade that caught your attention? Why ask for that game anyways?

Seems like a honest read, and I was waiting for something serious to happen. I like quick RVS.

I thought it was p obviously a joke tho

I didn't tho

Do you mean creature’s SR in you or your original post?

Bc when I said I thought it was p obviously a joke I was talking about your vote in dats

Oh ok, I thought we were talking about creature.

[Menalque]

Opportunism is voting someone for a weak reason. For a player looking to vote in the very early game, they have no reasons but weak reasons, regardless of alignment. So if it's GL's nature to try to get a serious vote down asap, then it's completely expected for him to jump on the first scrap of content he can find.

Okay so then why not say that when asked about it?

It’s the combination of it “being worth a non-RVS vote” but not really going beyond that that makes the opportunism seem scummy to me

What do you mean "not really going beyond that"?

Like being non-RVS implies to me that he thought there was something genuinely scummy about dats’ thing but I don’t think he’s followed that up

[Menalque]

@sally can you tell me if you’ve played with icon much before I answer you?

I asked about perfect masq bc it’s a recent large theme you’ve played in, I haven’t had the time to meta you yet

[Menalque]

Tbf i also have less faith now than I used to in sorting through meta if it’s not meta I have personally with people

[Something_Smart]

Okay so then why not say that when asked about it?

What do you call 121?

[Something_Smart]

Tbf i also have less faith now than I used to in sorting through meta if it’s not meta I have personally with people

Good call. Secondhand meta is a real nasty can of worms.

[Salamence20]

Never heard of icon before this game

[Something_Smart]

Like being non-RVS implies to me that he thought there was something genuinely scummy about dats’ thing but I don’t think he’s followed that up

118, 135, 144 are following it up, no?

[Menalque]

Okay so then why not say that when asked about it?

What do you call 121?

Yeah you might be right but more bc of 118 actually

[Menalque]

I thought it was presented in a joking manner (and Salamence has since said it was RVS/joke) but personally I viewed it as something that's worth a non-RVS vote and I was kinda hoping Salamence felt the same. I think if you genuinely forgot when posting that there were 3 scum then that's a townslip and Datisi pointing it out yet without any thought to your alignment feels like something scum might do.

I mean town can easily look at the OP and see how many scum there are.

I also find it weird that you read Salamence's vote as joking yet read the banter between Menal/Datisi as serious.

I didn't read the banter as serious - what makes you say that I did? You can be joking and still mess up how many scum there are. If anything

part of the reason I was pinged by Datisi is

because

she wasn't more serious

.

Yo GL talk to me about this

[Menalque]

Never heard of icon before this game

Hmm, okay

The reason is that icon is generally v mislynch baity and so pushing him early tends to ping me if it’s from someone who knows him who should know that him being scummy doesn’t necessarily mean he’s scum

[Iconeum]

salamance, ignorant = scum

y/n?

[Something_Smart]

him being scummy doesn’t necessarily mean he’s scum

I mean this is true of everyone lol.