Guns & Roses III [Game over]

[Iconeum]

the case is he's making scummy posts, especially with how he reacted to and exaggerated Creature's posts around him and the way he's shading Ico for townreading Menalque

That's... not at all my problem with Icon. My issue is the reason he's townreading Menalque, because of a 'townslip' that isn't actually a townslip.

I'm confused how you don't see the inconsistency in Creature's posts. Knowing how Creature plays, I assumed the naked vote on me was serious, but then in 176 he says both Salamence and alimdia are scum and 'now I need a third' implying he doesn't know who the third is. Then he later confirms the vote was serious.

Like okay there's your third then. Why did you omit that?

This again. I can see what AF is talking about wrt to Creature. Creature's progression doesn't make sense and yet AF is on the rooster for this?

[Iconeum]

Yo icon wanna do me a favour

i've already sent you the pics

might wanna check spam folder

[Iconeum]

VOTE: AaronFrost

His posts read very forced. His progression on creature also sucks.

This post is very forced. This progression on AF also sucks.

[Menalque]

@SOmething_Smart, any reason why you didn't RVS? Just curious.

Also, I just looked through all your posts again.

You post very neutral, answer and ask a bunch of questions but haven't drawn any conclusions from them.

You have too many posts for me to link all of them, but I encourage everyone to ISO SOmething_Smart up to Post 310.

I think thats a very strong scumtell.

YOu have lots of posts, made lots of neutral statements or fluff, but haven't had any conclusions.

VOTE: SOmething_Smart

This is literally just SS and it’s NAI

But tbh I townlean him because I think he’s actually trying to work with me, even if I still think he’s been a bit overly oppositional

I think my GL read was prob bad and I don’t see why scum!him doesn’t let me take that thread and run with it

[Iconeum]

The one thing that I can see is off with AF is that he chose to vote me for talking about a potential townslip from Menal, over his actual scumread in Creature.

[Menalque]

Yo icon wanna do me a favour

i've already sent you the pics

might wanna check spam folder

Mmmm, imma have fun with these tonight

[Menalque]

But like, do u also wanna do me an ingame favour?

[Menalque]

Also alim if ur around do u wanna do me a solid

[Iconeum]

I think I like this more than Aaron actually

VOTE: amrun

ahhh yes

[Iconeum]

But like, do u also wanna do me an ingame favour?

oh ehmm awkward…

yeah sure

[Iconeum]

ur gonna ask me to vote amrun, right?

[Iconeum]

what's he at right now?

[Menalque]

You read my mind

Only 2 votes on so L-6

[Iconeum]

VOTE: Amrun

[Iconeum]

Amrun's hopping on AF wagon was dirty

[Menalque]

VOTE: Amrun

Noice

[alimdia]

I needa read Amrun rq

[alimdia]

@SOmething_Smart, any reason why you didn't RVS? Just curious.

Also, I just looked through all your posts again.

You post very neutral, answer and ask a bunch of questions but haven't drawn any conclusions from them.

You have too many posts for me to link all of them, but I encourage everyone to ISO SOmething_Smart up to Post 310.

I think thats a very strong scumtell.

YOu have lots of posts, made lots of neutral statements or fluff, but haven't had any conclusions.

VOTE: SOmething_Smart

This is literally just SS and it’s NAI

But tbh I townlean him because I think he’s actually trying to work with me, even if I still think he’s been a bit overly oppositional

I think my GL read was prob bad and I don’t see why scum!him doesn’t let me take that thread and run with it

Brah he hasn't done anything other than neutral and injecting in random places.
Also, I really hate second hand meta too
Let SS defend himself.

[alimdia]

I'm actually tired af atm so I'll reread your case against Amrun later, as well as his ISO

[Amrun]

@Menal: That case is far too boring to spend my time on tbh but I’ll touch on a few salient points.

Not answering a direct question is usually scummy, or at least belligerent, but it does depend on what the question was. In this case, it was me being a derp and missing the answer. The vote was still weird, though.

My experience with Pret is 100% limited to a game I replaced into where he was already dead and was obvscum. Just for reference. Tonally, it’s completely different from this game. He started on a more angry alt too, so it is so off here I can’t use that meta really.

Even if I had 100 years of experience with him, trying to sort him would not be strange, or scummy. This is a bizarre stance to take; however, I get the impression that you rely a lot on meta so I think that’s NAI from you. I, however, think meta is trash.

As for AF, he might be scum, might not. I’m not familiar with him enough to sort playstyle from alignment indicative actions right away. So I’ll pressure him as I please, thank you.

I mean (1) the fact you went “eh still a weird vote” feels like you were looking for an excuse to vote him and idk why that’s natural? Also I disagree that not answering a direct question is scummy when the simplest explanation is that the person just missed it?

(2) I don’t think that trying to sort him is strange/scummy and I don’t think I said anything implying I thought that? I think that trying to sort him specifically in the way you claim you are is weird and doesn’t make sense from anyone who’s played with him even once

(3) also feel like you’re now backing off AF that you’ve been called on it when I think your earlier posts implied greater confidence on scum!him

1) It depends on the question and the context. In this particular case, I was trying to reaction test alim but it didn’t work because I’m dumb. I kept my vote there because the vote was still the thing that pinged me the most up to that point.

2) I don’t even get what you’re trying to say here. You are complaining that my sorting methods aren’t always transparent? Ok. Don’t care.

3) I don’t often find that adding pressure to see what shakes out is very effective if it’s wishy washy. Do you? OMGUS aside, I don’t think you are scum because the crazy tinfoil hat theory about suspecting people who town read you. But I don’t think your effort to sort me is a good one.

[AaronFrost]

As for AF, he might be scum, might not. I’m not familiar with him enough to sort playstyle from alignment indicative actions right away. So I’ll pressure him as I please, thank you.

Can you elaborate more on how my posts feel forced then? Talk about my progression on Creature as well. How are you reading him atm?

[AaronFrost]

VOTE: Iconeum

Even if Icon is considered 'mislynchable' I'm still going to push actions I find scummy and right now I'm not a fan of it giving Mena towncred for something he shouldn't get towncred for.

I think it was a pretty Obvious townslip. We can discuss how likely it is that he faked this as scum, but it's definitely there.

It's not so much that I think he faked it as scum, just that the statement itself was NAI.

Like it was clearly phrased as a joke given the context and I think Mena's smart enough to look at the setup regardless of his alignment. So I consider it NAI.

[AaronFrost]

VOTE: AaronFrost

His posts read very forced. His progression on creature also sucks.

This post is very forced. This progression on AF also sucks.

This made me chuckle.

But also I agree. Like the whole 'his posts are forced' comment feels like a blanket statement she's using to hop on my wagon. I want her to elaborate on what that means.

[AaronFrost]

Consider me on board.

VOTE: Amrun

I liked Icon's response to my vote. Reminds me of something similar it did in that Newbie game I played with it a while ago.

Still want Creature to explain his progression.

[Something_Smart]

Your brain must be very disordered.

You can say that again.