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Post Post #8475 (ISO) » Thu Dec 05, 2019 6:52 am

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Flavor is confirmed to be Bobert the drunk, an outsider who is stuck here because of the lockdown

Just so y’all know
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Post Post #8476 (ISO) » Thu Dec 05, 2019 6:55 am

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BTW, Zor could be groupscum. Or not. I’m confused.

He was also on both my new lists, but more importantly, I’m kinda confused by the inside job thing. Theoretically they were town when that happened, but why was the lie detector tipped off then? :/

P-edit: Kidman, how does that have anything to do with FL? What am I missing?
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Post Post #8477 (ISO) » Thu Dec 05, 2019 6:57 am

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In post 8475, BBmolla wrote:Flavor is confirmed to be Bobert the drunk, an outsider who is stuck here because of the lockdown

Just so y’all know
I don’t know how this relates to role, though. I did forget about that, but remember now.

Theoretically this could be cult - “outsider” - though it does seem less likely.
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Post Post #8478 (ISO) » Thu Dec 05, 2019 6:57 am

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Post Post #8479 (ISO) » Thu Dec 05, 2019 6:58 am

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In post 8476, Amrun wrote:Theoretically they were town when that happened, but why was the lie detector tipped off then? :/
It's possible Mena was culted N1 and they were N2.

Maybe it's because they were wrong about a hide proving zoraster to be town? Like, if the wording of their hider role didn't preclude him from being third party, for example
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Post Post #8480 (ISO) » Thu Dec 05, 2019 6:59 am

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In post 8474, BBmolla wrote:
In post 8457, Untrod Tripod wrote:
In post 8456, KidAmn wrote:I fully expected TSE to die last night, having seen how... difficult to leash he was becoming, even before the mods put him in baby jail
again
. I've not been paying this game anything resembling the necessary attention though, just waiting for the wheat to be sorted from the chaff.
something about this post

it's tickling my scum senses
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so KidAmn's ISO mostly just consists of him poking feebly at the Lie Detector and maybe trying to get it lynched.

seems pretty scummy to me

anyway I'm pretty comfortable with VOTE: KidAmn at this time. taking other offers.
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Post Post #8481 (ISO) » Thu Dec 05, 2019 7:07 am

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VOTE: Kidamn

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Post Post #8482 (ISO) » Thu Dec 05, 2019 7:09 am

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Let me know when the sheepy wagon is done so we can skip to the claim that you all ignore followed by the idiot hammering
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Post Post #8483 (ISO) » Thu Dec 05, 2019 7:10 am

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In post 8481, Firebringer wrote:So sayeth the UT
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Post Post #8484 (ISO) » Thu Dec 05, 2019 7:10 am

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In post 8482, KidAmn wrote:Let me know when the sheepy wagon is done so we can skip to the claim that you all ignore followed by the idiot hammering
ah yes, calling people bad. the pinnacle of good defense.
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Post Post #8485 (ISO) » Thu Dec 05, 2019 7:11 am

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In post 8479, Cephrir wrote:
In post 8476, Amrun wrote:Theoretically they were town when that happened, but why was the lie detector tipped off then? :/
It's possible Mena was culted N1 and they were N2.

Maybe it's because they were wrong about a hide proving zoraster to be town? Like, if the wording of their hider role didn't preclude him from being third party, for example
It's possible that a hide would happen before recruit, meaning Inside might not die if their target got recruited on the same night (And thus couldn't actually say for certain whether their target was town or not. Although there was only the cult leader at that point, and if Inside was the recruit that night then Inside would know that wasn't the case when they made the post I checked). Or yeah, not knowing if it's benevolent third-party or not, although they said zor was Town, not specifically Cobble; and Town seems to include benevolent third-party based on our win-condition, I think? It wasn't really a particularly good post to check, in hindsight.

We don't know which order the recruits happened though. The recruit seems to not be present in the night flavor so far, as far as I can tell.
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Post Post #8486 (ISO) » Thu Dec 05, 2019 7:19 am

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@Rauth: it does seem to make zor not groupscum, though.

@UT: what is wrong with the perfectly good dongempire wagon? Though kidamn is fine too. Hang em both.
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Post Post #8487 (ISO) » Thu Dec 05, 2019 7:20 am

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VOTE: KidAmn
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Post Post #8488 (ISO) » Thu Dec 05, 2019 7:25 am

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In post 8479, Cephrir wrote:
In post 8476, Amrun wrote:Theoretically they were town when that happened, but why was the lie detector tipped off then? :/
It's possible Mena was culted N1 and they were N2.

Maybe it's because they were wrong about a hide proving zoraster to be town? Like, if the wording of their hider role didn't preclude him from being third party, for example
Alternatively, they were a different investigation faking hider to draw a shot as a joat with bp.

If they were either cult or town with a result on group scum they would out it. If they were cult with no result, why fake clear zor when he could potentially know they were lying and thus shoot them? (Reminder: scum and cult are actively playing against each other.) tl;dr zor is probably town for the moment.

Someone asked and yes I do get information. Mostly it boils down to I wasn’t roleblocked, but :shrug:

Cult targets are slightly more difficult this game. Several people have claimed unrecruitable and the scum team are bombs. So cult not only has to target people who will live, but people they’re sure aren’t scum. Cult also has no reason to fake reads. That means the cult leader was likely someone townreading mena, although we still don’t need to focus there today.

Without explicit reasoning, the proportions are probably 6v1v1 or 4v4v1v1, not including benevolent 3p.
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Post Post #8489 (ISO) » Thu Dec 05, 2019 7:26 am

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In post 8485, Rautherdir wrote:
In post 8479, Cephrir wrote:
In post 8476, Amrun wrote:Theoretically they were town when that happened, but why was the lie detector tipped off then? :/
It's possible Mena was culted N1 and they were N2.

Maybe it's because they were wrong about a hide proving zoraster to be town? Like, if the wording of their hider role didn't preclude him from being third party, for example
It's possible that a hide would happen before recruit, meaning Inside might not die if their target got recruited on the same night (And thus couldn't actually say for certain whether their target was town or not. Although there was only the cult leader at that point, and if Inside was the recruit that night then Inside would know that wasn't the case when they made the post I checked). Or yeah, not knowing if it's benevolent third-party or not, although they said zor was Town, not specifically Cobble; and Town seems to include benevolent third-party based on our win-condition, I think? It wasn't really a particularly good post to check, in hindsight.

We don't know which order the recruits happened though. The recruit seems to not be present in the night flavor so far, as far as I can tell.
Speaking of, we should probably make useful posts for you to check. I don't really care if we catch cult recruits and third parties right now, so I suggest the following:
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Post Post #8490 (ISO) » Thu Dec 05, 2019 7:27 am

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I am either Runelord-aligned or a Cult Recruiter.
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Post Post #8491 (ISO) » Thu Dec 05, 2019 7:29 am

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In post 8490, Cephrir wrote:I am either Runelord-aligned or a Cult Recruiter.
I am either Runelord-aligned or a Cult Recruiter.
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Post Post #8492 (ISO) » Thu Dec 05, 2019 7:33 am

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How about 'My win condition allows me to win with Cobble'

Besides, we're not allowed to claim scum.
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Post Post #8493 (ISO) » Thu Dec 05, 2019 7:35 am

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I guess there aren't any cult recruits alive today so that's fine
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Post Post #8494 (ISO) » Thu Dec 05, 2019 7:36 am

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My win condition allows me to win with Cobble.
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Post Post #8495 (ISO) » Thu Dec 05, 2019 7:39 am

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I strongly suspect KidAmn is town-aligned.
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Post Post #8496 (ISO) » Thu Dec 05, 2019 7:39 am

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My win condition allows me to win with Cobble.
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Post Post #8497 (ISO) » Thu Dec 05, 2019 7:42 am

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My wincondition allows me to win with Cobble.
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Post Post #8498 (ISO) » Thu Dec 05, 2019 7:43 am

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In post 8489, Cephrir wrote:
In post 8485, Rautherdir wrote:
In post 8479, Cephrir wrote:
In post 8476, Amrun wrote:Theoretically they were town when that happened, but why was the lie detector tipped off then? :/
It's possible Mena was culted N1 and they were N2.

Maybe it's because they were wrong about a hide proving zoraster to be town? Like, if the wording of their hider role didn't preclude him from being third party, for example
It's possible that a hide would happen before recruit, meaning Inside might not die if their target got recruited on the same night (And thus couldn't actually say for certain whether their target was town or not. Although there was only the cult leader at that point, and if Inside was the recruit that night then Inside would know that wasn't the case when they made the post I checked). Or yeah, not knowing if it's benevolent third-party or not, although they said zor was Town, not specifically Cobble; and Town seems to include benevolent third-party based on our win-condition, I think? It wasn't really a particularly good post to check, in hindsight.

We don't know which order the recruits happened though. The recruit seems to not be present in the night flavor so far, as far as I can tell.
Speaking of, we should probably make useful posts for you to check. I don't really care if we catch cult recruits and third parties right now, so I suggest the following:
I hate to be that guy but there is no fucking way the Lie Detector can just straight up catch scum.
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Post Post #8499 (ISO) » Thu Dec 05, 2019 7:43 am

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It might actually be interesting to Lie detect the guilty post Inside made about Flavor.
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