Mini Normal 2109 | Newbie Quotes II: Newb Boogaloo (Day 3)

[tris]

@kcda it's against the rules to talk about replacing out in the thread or continuing to talk once you've made the request, so make sure you don't post anything more.

[Joey_]

at this point i can't read saus apart from "i am hugely worried about how i'm perceived" but they seem to think that's what the game is actually about for both alignments

don't know how to interpret it

saus has been giving me vibes of open wolfing troll veteran or a genuine new player who flipped town but is being extremely self-conscious (trait I historically associate much more w/ scum than town)

It would make sense for you to perceive it as scum. If you look back at my previous games, you’ll see I’ve only ever played scum before, never town, so I apologise if my priorities are slightly wrong.

alright, so does anyone in this game jump out as you as being likely scummy or towny saus?

I think Jake the Wolfie is town. I know some people disagree, but he’s playing very similar to the last game I had with him when he was town. I know meta arguments aren’t great, but I think if you’ll look at newbie game 1966 you’ll see what I mean.

I don’t like the look of Dolly. Even if the mason claim was a joke, it wasn’t a good one, and only served to make people suspicious of her. Not a good play for scum or town. This alone isn’t good enough for a lynch in further consideration, however. UNVOTE: Dolly Parton

Kcdaspot isn’t great either. He frequently says things without justifying them (see 146, 52 (which is followed by the vague 57) and 290 (why exactly is it null? Can we have an explanation?) for examples). However, this isn’t scum-indicative by itself.

I think Invisible’s slip is worth following through. Invisible also doesn’t seem to try to make himself look townish to other players either. He mocks Kcdaspot’s style of writing in 123. However, like Kcdaspot (and Dolly), he fails to provide reasoning for some of his posts.

I think that currently, the best thing to do is to follow through with Invisible’s slip and lynch him, though this could change later depending on what happens.

VOTE: Invisible

you don't seem to really believe in this lynch.

I don’t quite understand what you mean. Why would I vote for it if I didn’t believe it was the best choice?

Thats circular logic, you can't say you believe in your vote because you voted them

[Arkias]

Well, I think Tris is town. RB is probably town too.

Between the Jake and Invis thing I mentioned earlier, I can't really see either of them being scum.

So, for now,

VOTE: unvote

I'm going to give the thread another read and try to get some analysis going on.

Also, I like that pirate gif. It reminds me of Monkey Island.

[Joey_]

Well, I think Tris is town. RB is probably town too.

Between the Jake and Invis thing I mentioned earlier, I can't really see either of them being scum.

So, for now,

VOTE: unvote

I'm going to give the thread another read and try to get some analysis going on.

Also, I like that pirate gif. It reminds me of Monkey Island.

Why can't you see any of jake and inv as mefia?

[Joey_]

@saus

[Jake The Wolfie]

Also, let's not quicklynch Invisible, thanks. Or Dolly Python.

didn't you scumread invisibility?

It does not matter if invisibility is confscum. We do not quicklynch anyone in this house as long as we have time to discuss.

[rb]

hard disagree

dragging out games leads to apathy and boredom = bad for town

moving the gamestate along is good, when not rushed

[alimdia]

Dolly, rb, Alimdia, do you also feel that Jake's post comes off as Try-Hard Scum?

126

I'm gonna be honest its really hard to read cos I gotta keep going back and forth.

Its really fluffy as well.
He mentions me calling out Invis's 'slip' but then puts eth0s at the most scummy.

Something that might make sense is Kcdaspot and eth0s power-wolf'ing/mafia'ing but he didn't even mention that.

I'm inclined to think that invis vs jake is actually SvS. That's pretty rare I must say, but it seems like some light bussing gone wrong.

what makes you think he might be town and not scum?

Um I'm pretty sure at that point I thought it was SvS, so this question makes 0 sense.

PEDIT: My Joey post was not in response to you asking me to join the wagon btw.

Since we cleared up that SvS and slip issue, I'm honestly not sure about my invis read to begin with.

this post existing just proves that the inv wagon is pretty terrible.

You claimed a slip, at least a few 2-3 slots took it at face value and voted with you. Then you went against your read with another read (SvsS), got called out on the incoherence and then you are second-guessing. Thats read progression and a transparent thought process

But why is this wagon is still sticking do you think? its a trick q

I'm guessing they don't wanna look like they're following again. I'll check who followed on invis with me.

VOTE: Jake The Wolfie

Follow me Almi let's put this counter wagon to the test.

are we svs or do you not think I slipped anymore

See Joey's above post and his previous. I'm not 100% sure if you slipped or not anymore, but I don't think SvS is possible between you and Jake.

because the opportunistic thing, and the svs thing

I'm TRing Joey_.
Just ISO him, it speaks for itself.

But I don't really agree with your counterwagon. Did you see my post 258?
Also, after you put a vote on Arkias, you seem to just have forgotten about it

who are you talking too here? i'm having some reading comprehension failure on this page.

I'm just listing my reads...

[alimdia]

kdca and saus townreads have drained away because not enough work
also the saus read was kinda of dumb to begin with but it’s okay
also kdca was kind of kicking jake a few times when I was arguing with him does that make sense?
in retrospect it’s kinda scummy
yeah actually I don’t like that at all

also UNVOTE:
if it’s Jake’s meta
has he played as scum?

anyway VOTE: alim

Whats your case here? Me saying you slipped and you and jake being SvS and then backtracking?

[alimdia]

@mod the votecount has jake at 5, not 3.

[alimdia]

because the opportunistic thing, and the svs thing

I missed this earlier, sorry.

I don't see why thats a case again me anyway.

[Jake The Wolfie]

I don't like Kcdaspot's slot. So far they have generated more fluff than a cotton candy machine.

VOTE: Kcdaspot

[Saladman27]

VC 1.7

Have some colored text. Don't like it? Call your local Scumteam to out themselves to prevent this so-called atrocity again!

Uh-huh?

VOTE:Jake the Wolfie

mod note: this is a joke

(I'll use this color instead, as it is less similar to the host's color) how dare you vote me.

Jake The Wolfie (4) -

Kcdaspot, eth0s, Dolly Parton, alimdia

Kcdaspot (2) -

rb, Jake The Wolfie

Invisibility (1) -

SausasaurusRex

Dolly Parton (1) -

Lil Uzi Vert

Arkias (1) -

Joey_

Alimdia (1) -

Invisibility

Not Voting (3) -

tris, Wake88, Arkias

With

13

alive, it takes

7

to hammer.
Day 1 ends in

(expired on 2019-12-17 11:00:00)

Game Notes

- Currently looking for a replacement for Kcdaspot

[Dolly Parton]

VOTE: Jake The Wolfie

Follow me Almi let's put this counter wagon to the test.

are we svs or do you not think I slipped anymore

I believed in the slip just enough to get on the wagon. SvS? Maybe, I highly doubt it though.

[Dolly Parton]

kdca and saus townreads have drained away because not enough work
also the saus read was kinda of dumb to begin with but it’s okay
also kdca was kind of kicking jake a few times when I was arguing with him does that make sense?
in retrospect it’s kinda scummy
yeah actually I don’t like that at all

also UNVOTE:
if it’s Jake’s meta
has he played as scum?

anyway VOTE: alim

Alim votes at this point are POINTless. What info will we get from this lynch today, even if Alim flips red. I mean it could clear you but I disagree with your read here.

[Jake The Wolfie]

VC 1.7

Have some colored text. Don't like it? Call your local Scumteam to out themselves to prevent this so-called atrocity again!

Uh-huh?

VOTE:Jake the Wolfie

mod note: this is a joke

(I'll use this color instead, as it is less similar to the host's color) how dare you vote me.

Jake The Wolfie (4) -

Kcdaspot, eth0s, Dolly Parton, alimdia

Kcdaspot (2) -

rb, Jake The Wolfie

Invisibility (1) -

SausasaurusRex

Dolly Parton (1) -

Lil Uzi Vert

Arkias (1) -

Joey_

Alimdia (1) -

Invisibility

Not Voting (3) -

tris, Wake88, Arkias

With

13

alive, it takes

7

to hammer.
Day 1 ends in

(expired on 2019-12-17 11:00:00)

Game Notes

- Currently looking for a replacement for Kcdaspot

<3

[Dolly Parton]

@saus

I've seen a few graphs and similar things pop us recently in several game. I hope this trend continues. I like this type of thing.

[Dolly Parton]

hard disagree

dragging out games leads to apathy and boredom = bad for town

moving the gamestate along is good, when not rushed

I 100% agree with this. A Real Confscum needs to be lynched ASAP.

[Dolly Parton]

I don't like Kcdaspot's slot. So far they have generated more fluff than a cotton candy machine.

VOTE: Kcdaspot

Voting/lynching an empty slot is just weak. minus points for you sir.

[eth0s]

I'm a mason with wake..

Please unvote.

I'm a mason with wake..

Please unvote.

Like Hell you are.

wake, confirm/deny?

investigative roles target these 2 if both claim mason

Do you really think I would risk such a claim as scum with 1 vote on the border of RVS/real voting?

What this could accomplish for scum!dolly: potentially out PRs/masons

What this could accomplish for town!dolly: ???

seriously what is this weirdness? It feels like a totally uncalled for grab for towncred. And I don't see scum believing/killing that claim even if wake went along with it because the lack of pressure leading up to the claim shows that it's obviously fabricated.

[eth0s]

i wonder how long scum on this site will keep making "joke" claims and not being lynched for it

i wonder how long town will keep doing it and thinking that it actually has any point and that it's not just an egregiously fucking moronic thing to do because of the fluff it generates at best and the misinformation it spreads at worst

scum are informed, town are not. spreading disinformation harms both, but the faction with a better base level of information deals with this harm better. it's anti-town regardless.

i want this player out of the game for 2 reasons:

1. they're likely scum anyway
2. if not, they're garbage at the game anyway

the perfect day1 lynch candidate

I was actually SL'ing rb until this post. damn good post.

[eth0s]

Regarding the fake claim thing, why would scum do it there? Unless you're implying dolly and wake are scum together and wake refused to get entangled in the claim.

townreading dolly because you're overreacting and also another ongoing game so can't talk about it.

Letting people off the hook for scummy behavior because "no way scum does that" is a very dangerous game to play. I for one, don't really want a gamestate where that kind of stuff can fly from "town"

The point you're arguing is just WIFOM

[eth0s]

oh look another time where scum do dumb shit and a bunch of town decide, "nah scum wouldn't do something scummy" and then don't lynch the scum

entirely too many times imo

bruh.

Aren't you the one so experienced on slips??

man I need to stop posting this bit by bit bc im sure this has already been adressed but damn

[eth0s]

I'm inclined to think that invis vs jake is actually SvS. That's pretty rare I must say, but it seems like some light bussing gone wrong.

thats a disgusting read and goes against your whole slip thought process and basically whatever you are doing rn still vote there

I have 0 idea what you just said. Can you reword

rb you should calm down a bit, honestly you are keeping scum from posting

hm....

Please tell me you're not hm'ing because you want to imply that you think joey slipped.

Like I know I just called rb out for what looks like a potential slip but joey's phrasing just isn't one.

On a side note, this game must be crazy lubed up if this many people are slipping.

[eth0s]

Hey guys

What’s shaking?

this shake weight, I'm putting in some serious reps. Wanna join?