Mainstream Mafia II: D&D Edition [FIN]

[Cephrir]

There are exactly ZERO vanilla townies.

[EspressoPatronum]

I have nothing else to my role.

I find that hard to believe.

There are exactly ZERO vanilla townies.

Bobert the Drunkard is my flavor.

BBmolla can confirm, which he already has.

I just looked at it again.

I was a guard who fell asleep *hic* in Cobble, and now you guys won’t let me go.

I am Thode-aligned, but I literally win with you guys.

I guess I’m 3rd party, but my win con is literally the town wincon.

So if town wins, and I’m dead, I still win. I guess this would count as a third party victory then?

Idk, I think I’m town, but more of a Named Townie Backup Cop

[gobbledygook]

He said he was a Deputy at one point. I don’t know if that was true.

[pisskop]

There are exactly ZERO vanilla townies.

he claimed backup [cop], where cop is the first of any flavor of cop.

[pisskop]

He said he was a Deputy at one point. I don’t know if that was true.

he said his flavor was that of a guard from thode

[Cephrir]

Sorry I'm tired

[Cephrir]

VOTE: Wooper

[Wooper]

Wooper is the better target for 3 reasons.
1) Wooper has been hard lurking. Some have mentioned this is a scumtell for Wooper.
2) Wooper's response to being pushed was to essentially give up. Wooper offered no real defence + refused to claim or flavour claim.
3) InsideJob's hid behind Zora and subsequently inno'd Zora. While Rauth's lie detector identified this statement as false, it's unclear when InsideJob was culted + how that impacted Rauth's results. In light of the muddied waters, it seems better to test the 50/50 on Wooper, who is more scummy.

Hhhhuuuuuuhhhhhh?
Whoever said that hasn't played with me in like a year

How would you suggest I defend myself from a mechanical dichotomy no one will explain to me? Why would me claiming help with solving my alignment?

Again you're trusting scum on someone's alignment - but I'd rather lynch fl than Zor anyway so still not sure why this dichotomy is a thing

[Miss Lane]

Just to bring everyone back on track + to help those who missed the case on Wooper/Zor:

We have a fairly reliable 50/50 in Zora or Wooper.

Amrun PI'd FormerFish's body to identify his killer (the aasimar woman) and 5 random names.

Sure.

Through PoE, there's a strong chance that it's Zora or Wooper. Even without Amrun's list, there's ample reasons for lynching either.

I very strongly disagree with this, and you presenting it as such makes Wooper seem like a much more repulsive lynch, and you more interesting. It should be noted that your name is on that list.

Wooper is the better target for 3 reasons.

1) Wooper has been hard lurking. Some have mentioned this is a scumtell for Wooper.

You don't seem to believe that, I certainly don't. Other players have presented counters to this that include the fact that this isn't really a scum tell for Wooper, and this evidence is statistically unreliable being cherrypicked from select games and ignoring others.

2) Wooper's response to being pushed was to essentially give up. Wooper offered no real defence + refused to claim or flavour claim.

No, it wasn't. He defended himself, and he flavor claimed. This is untrue.

3) InsideJob's hid behind Zora and subsequently inno'd Zora. While Rauth's lie detector identified this statement as false, it's unclear when InsideJob was culted + how that impacted Rauth's results.

Exactly. The inno on Zora is shady and unreliable.

In light of the muddied waters, it seems better to test the 50/50 on Wooper, who is more scummy.

If you're saying Wooper's play is more scummy, I'd really like you to point to where, unless you intend on pointing back to the first two points of this argument, in which case I would point out that both of those two statements are either intentional manipulations of data or ignorant of legitimate facts contrary to the assertions in them.
Zora is far scummier than Wooper, IMO, for reasons that I've already outlined. The only legitimate reason to lynch Wooper over Zora is that Zora's "inno" is relatively plausible, but I think both player's actions are contrary to the way things look to be framed mechanically speaking.

Is it mechanically likely that Wooper is scum based solely off of Amrun's list? Yes. Are there any other good reasons? Not particularly, unless you for some reason think that lurking is a good scum tell w/ 28 players remaining in the game, and even then that's a terrible argument to lynch someone, especially when there are so many actually scummy players. Your post here feels very disingenuous and manipulative, ignorant of events that prove contrary to it, and it very much feels like you think Wooper is scum and are manipulating facts to fit your evidence.

[Flavor Leaf]

Drunk guard from Thode.

I meant nothing else to my role because, like the title under my Boonskiies account states, “That’s Not All, Folks!”, I am known to have extra surprises and goodies to bring up as the game goes by. This is not one of those times, as I felt it a necessity to true bond with everyone here, and as I only have a backup role, I’m not high priority.

[Miss Lane]

EP's argument on lynching Wooper is disgusting and repulsive.

[Wooper]

EP seems to have a solid case, and I town read EP.

pls if y'all lynch me just silently execute this tomorrow

[Flavor Leaf]

VOTE: Wooper

[Miss Lane]

MafTiger is so bad, though. They should either fix this style or delete it

IT IS A RELIC BEFORE YOUR TIME. ~ chk

it was outdated in 2014

[Flavor Leaf]

He said he was a Deputy at one point. I don’t know if that was true.

he said his flavor was that of a guard from thode

Drunken.

Drunk is important *hic*.

BBmolla flavor copped that, so it’s confirmed even

[Miss Lane]

EP seems to have a solid case, and I town read EP.

What about that seemed solid to you?

[pisskop]

VOTE: zora

maybe we can just get the other one vigged tonight.

[Wooper]

Ep's case on me is sheeping incorrect weasel wordy meta, a mechanical dichotomy he won't explain, and suggesting I'm scum for not defending myself from a mechanical dichotomy I don't understand when I don't see any path to defend myself because nobody is really pushing me for anything except what EP is pushing me for

This could be a wiki article on how to charge off the mislynch cliff

There's my self defence yw

[Miss Lane]

UNVOTE: Wooper

I'm not leaving my vote down while that filth is on the table.

[Miss Lane]

EP tell me do you believe the argument you posted?

[Cephrir]

It has been explained about 40 times today just read the thread

[Wooper]

I'll compromise on zor if fl doesn't happen but like... lol....

[Miss Lane]

It has been explained about 40 times today just read the thread

Who is this in response to?

[Wooper]

This thread literally puts me to sleep - it's so mechanical it's about as interesting as watching someone live tweeting a monopoly game

Can you quote it @me?

[Wooper]

Like from what I understand Zor is confirmed not cult because flipped cult said so, and can't be part of that ruin thingy faction because...? reasons

and there's a mechanical dichotomy around {zor, me} and possibly UT? Or something which has something to do with fishy's body and amrun and when I asked for an explanation on this UT passive aggressively posted amrun's iso