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Post Post #9700 (ISO) » Sat Dec 07, 2019 12:59 pm

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In post 9698, Cephrir wrote:
In post 9690, RCEnigma wrote:
In post 9685, gobbledygook wrote:VOTE: Iconeum
VOTE: Iconeum
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Ok buddy
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Post Post #9701 (ISO) » Sat Dec 07, 2019 1:00 pm

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In post 9696, KidAmn wrote:
In post 9691, Rautherdir wrote:
In post 9684, KidAmn wrote:I call bullshit.
If I could be roleblocked, then the compulsive facet of my post restriction wouldn't make as much sense, especially if the roleblock is in town hands.
In post 8250, Rautherdir wrote:My power is technically unlimited, however each time it's used I have to pay a price, and I only know the next price I have to pay, although there's the general statement that the price will increase each time. I get the feeling it's going to culminate in using the power in exchange for dying though. Last night the price was a post restriction that once broken makes my power compulsive the following night. Once it's broken the post restriction doesn't come back, and I did get to choose the post restriction, which I decided would be including at least one rhyme in my posts. For some reason I thought that would be easy. I'm not sure if I should claim the next price though.
I don't see an incompatibility or a lack of sense here.
And? I'm just saying what happened. I have a cop clear on me and a godfather has flipped. Tomorrow I'll be hated and as such will probably not be allowed to survive to LYLO anyways.
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Post Post #9702 (ISO) » Sat Dec 07, 2019 1:02 pm

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In post 9695, Cephrir wrote:
In post 9678, zoraster wrote:
In post 9676, Cephrir wrote:
In post 9673, zoraster wrote:But for the second, yes, I think it casts doubt on Korina not killing night 2.
If the first person to submit gets their kill flavor on it, doesnt it stand to reason that person also will have carried out the kill for the purposes of Amrun's role?
I would assume so? But I don't think there was an argument here that there were two kills on Vork or FF, right?
Then I guess I dont understand what you're saying!
There were two parts to this and they're separate.

One is the situation around Elements and the "whoever submitted first" thing could be relevant (though as I've said, unlikely) in terms of the claimed Creature Kill that turned up SK-ish flavor language that matched up with Menalque's death when Elements said he DIDN'T shoot. Because theoretically it's possible that both SK and Vigilante-Elements shot Creature but SK submitted first so the flavor was SK-ish. Again, I do not believe this to be the case, but it is possible.

The other separate point is the Amrun result, which has Korina on N2 along with (for sake of simplicity) me and Wooper. Korina gave a brownie to someone (I forget who at the moment) who confirmed it happened. So because people assumed a kill and an action COULDN'T happen on the same night, that meant either me or Wooper was the person who killed FF. But as it turns out, the mod DOES allow both an action and a kill from the same player, so Korina, confirmed scum through his death, is possibly if not likely the N2 killer too.

Does that make sense? My questions were about two different aspects of the game.
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Post Post #9703 (ISO) » Sat Dec 07, 2019 1:04 pm

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In post 9702, zoraster wrote:
In post 9695, Cephrir wrote:
In post 9678, zoraster wrote:
In post 9676, Cephrir wrote:
In post 9673, zoraster wrote:But for the second, yes, I think it casts doubt on Korina not killing night 2.
If the first person to submit gets their kill flavor on it, doesnt it stand to reason that person also will have carried out the kill for the purposes of Amrun's role?
I would assume so? But I don't think there was an argument here that there were two kills on Vork or FF, right?
Then I guess I dont understand what you're saying!
There were two parts to this and they're separate.

One is the situation around Elements and the "whoever submitted first" thing could be relevant (though as I've said, unlikely) in terms of the claimed Creature Kill that turned up SK-ish flavor language that matched up with Menalque's death when Elements said he DIDN'T shoot. Because theoretically it's possible that both SK and Vigilante-Elements shot Creature but SK submitted first so the flavor was SK-ish. Again, I do not believe this to be the case, but it is possible.

The other separate point is the Amrun result, which has Korina on N2 along with (for sake of simplicity) me and Wooper. Korina gave a brownie to someone (I forget who at the moment) who confirmed it happened. So because people assumed a kill and an action COULDN'T happen on the same night, that meant either me or Wooper was the person who killed FF. But as it turns out, the mod DOES allow both an action and a kill from the same player, so Korina, confirmed scum through his death, is possibly if not likely the N2 killer too.

Does that make sense? My questions were about two different aspects of the game.
Actually, you and wooper are on the night 1 list.
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Post Post #9704 (ISO) » Sat Dec 07, 2019 1:18 pm

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no?
In post 8512, Amrun wrote:
In post 8509, gobbledygook wrote:Amrun, could you post all the lists that you have been given, even if you think they are are redundant?
Yes but it’ll take me a minute cuz phone posting from work.

Night 1: The Fonz, Untrod Tripod, Pine, Virgo the Immaculate, gobbledygook, Pink Ball
In post 8514, Amrun wrote:Night 2 : Korina, EspressoPatronum, zoraster, TrueSoulEnergy, Wooper, Untrod Tripod
In post 8516, Amrun wrote:No, that’s not how my role works. I control it.

Night 3: Flavor Leaf, EspressoPatronum, Korina, zoraster, BBmolla, Pine

The fact of it is that it’s one true culprit and six random names. Korina’s presence, whether it’s one of the random ones or not, muddies the waters to make these lists useless.
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Post Post #9705 (ISO) » Sat Dec 07, 2019 1:20 pm

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You’re talking about different things.

Zoraster you were on Fish’s list and Vorkuta’s lists. Technically those are the Nught 1 and 2 kills. Amrun is one night phase behind.
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Post Post #9706 (ISO) » Sat Dec 07, 2019 1:21 pm

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ohhhh right. okay, i stand corrected. anyway, i think the point stands
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Post Post #9707 (ISO) » Sat Dec 07, 2019 1:22 pm

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In post 9700, Bingle wrote:
In post 9698, Cephrir wrote:
In post 9690, RCEnigma wrote:
In post 9685, gobbledygook wrote:VOTE: Iconeum
VOTE: Iconeum
"A wagon that forms via blank votes after encouragement from a claimed 3p is not attractive to town"

Ok buddy
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Post Post #9708 (ISO) » Sat Dec 07, 2019 1:26 pm

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Zoraster, any opinion beyond Elements and Wooper?
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Post Post #9709 (ISO) » Sat Dec 07, 2019 1:30 pm

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In post 9670, Flavor Leaf wrote:I will say, Miss Lynch is most likely not Runelord. I give her almost full credit for that Titus lynch.

She legit bargained with me to get my vote there which snowballed it.

Of course ML isn’t Runelord.

However, you seem to have some deep misunderstandings about that wagon, how it started, and how it actually came to lynch. You really aren’t reading at all and I am disappoint. :(
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Post Post #9710 (ISO) » Sat Dec 07, 2019 1:30 pm

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In post 9670, Flavor Leaf wrote:I will say, Miss Lynch is most likely not Runelord. I give her almost full credit for that Titus lynch.

She legit bargained with me to get my vote there which snowballed it.
In post 9653, zoraster wrote:okay so the mod has told me two things:

1. Flavor of kills is down to who submitted first.
2. Yes, you can both do an action and kill.

Ugh. This makes it more complicated.
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Post Post #9711 (ISO) » Sat Dec 07, 2019 1:33 pm

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In post 9710, Amrun wrote:Ugh. This makes it more complicated.
Not really.

It means your role is best used as we get a bunch of lists of potential killers and solve in those lists when we hit endgame. You're like a tracker. You get significantly more useful the longer the game lasts.
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Post Post #9712 (ISO) » Sat Dec 07, 2019 1:34 pm

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In post 9676, Cephrir wrote:
In post 9673, zoraster wrote:But for the second, yes, I think it casts doubt on Korina not killing night 2.
If the first person to submit gets their kill flavor on it, doesnt it stand to reason that person also will have carried out the kill for the purposes of Amrun's role?
I would think so but I will try and ask mod.
In post 9677, Rautherdir wrote:
In post 9676, Cephrir wrote:
In post 9673, zoraster wrote:But for the second, yes, I think it casts doubt on Korina not killing night 2.
If the first person to submit gets their kill flavor on it, doesnt it stand to reason that person also will have carried out the kill for the purposes of Amrun's role?
Depends on if scum can choose who does the kill or not, I would think?
Why WOULDN’T scum be able to choose this?

P-edit: That was always the case. That’s not news. That’s why I didn’t intend to claim early and intentionally tried no to catch an NK. However, it still does make many things slightly more complicated.
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Post Post #9713 (ISO) » Sat Dec 07, 2019 1:38 pm

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In post 9709, Amrun wrote:
In post 9670, Flavor Leaf wrote:I will say, Miss Lynch is most likely not Runelord. I give her almost full credit for that Titus lynch.

She legit bargained with me to get my vote there which snowballed it.

Of course ML isn’t Runelord.

However, you seem to have some deep misunderstandings about that wagon, how it started, and how it actually came to lynch. You really aren’t reading at all and I am disappoint. :(

All that mattered was I voted, and I told TSE to execute.
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Post Post #9714 (ISO) » Sat Dec 07, 2019 1:40 pm

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In post 9713, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 9709, Amrun wrote:
In post 9670, Flavor Leaf wrote:I will say, Miss Lynch is most likely not Runelord. I give her almost full credit for that Titus lynch.

She legit bargained with me to get my vote there which snowballed it.

Of course ML isn’t Runelord.

However, you seem to have some deep misunderstandings about that wagon, how it started, and how it actually came to lynch. You really aren’t reading at all and I am disappoint. :(

All that mattered was I voted, and I told TSE to execute.
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Post Post #9715 (ISO) » Sat Dec 07, 2019 1:41 pm

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Also, fine with lynching Wooper, Iconeum, cyrus62, or potentially RCEnigma today. Maybe aaronfrost
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Post Post #9716 (ISO) » Sat Dec 07, 2019 1:43 pm

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In post 9714, Amrun wrote:
In post 9713, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 9709, Amrun wrote:
In post 9670, Flavor Leaf wrote:I will say, Miss Lynch is most likely not Runelord. I give her almost full credit for that Titus lynch.

She legit bargained with me to get my vote there which snowballed it.

Of course ML isn’t Runelord.

However, you seem to have some deep misunderstandings about that wagon, how it started, and how it actually came to lynch. You really aren’t reading at all and I am disappoint. :(

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Post Post #9717 (ISO) » Sat Dec 07, 2019 1:43 pm

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Post Post #9718 (ISO) » Sat Dec 07, 2019 1:46 pm

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VOTE: Iconeum

Don’t hammer until I get my mod answer in case I die please
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Post Post #9719 (ISO) » Sat Dec 07, 2019 1:49 pm

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I am playing the game. I’m the highest poster alive. Just because I don’t have any current analysis that hasn’t been spoken doesn’t mean I’m not.

I’ve given loads of my thoughts. I’ve essentially given you guys unfiltered comments because I’m thought vomiting. Whatever comes to my mind I post.

I also actively was explaining people what my role was last night.

Don’t look at things at a surface level.
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Post Post #9720 (ISO) » Sat Dec 07, 2019 1:50 pm

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People scumreading Flavor here is pretty hilarious, ngl.
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Post Post #9721 (ISO) » Sat Dec 07, 2019 1:52 pm

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In post 9719, Flavor Leaf wrote:I am playing the game. I’m the highest poster alive. Just because I don’t have any current analysis that hasn’t been spoken doesn’t mean I’m not.

I’ve given loads of my thoughts. I’ve essentially given you guys unfiltered comments because I’m thought vomiting. Whatever comes to my mind I post.

I also actively was explaining people what my role was last night.

Don’t look at things at a surface level.

You’re so out of touch with game state you have no idea.


I actually think you’re town.

High post count doesn’t equal content. Most of yours is useless because you have no idea what’s going on. Are you role playing your flavor?
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Post Post #9722 (ISO) » Sat Dec 07, 2019 1:54 pm

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In post 9720, Bingle wrote:People scumreading Flavor here is pretty hilarious, ngl.
what if i half want to lynch him just so i don't have to read his posts anymore
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Post Post #9723 (ISO) » Sat Dec 07, 2019 1:57 pm

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Post Post #9724 (ISO) » Sat Dec 07, 2019 2:00 pm

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In post 9722, Cephrir wrote:
In post 9720, Bingle wrote:People scumreading Flavor here is pretty hilarious, ngl.
what if i half want to lynch him just so i don't have to read his posts anymore
Well, I guess you could ask Elements to vig him then. People appear to be fine with Creature's death for that reason, they'll probably be fine with Flavor going the same way.

(I'm being slightly sarcastic.)
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