Newbie 1971 [Game Over!]

[skitter30]

? Kanna isnt really scummy at all, do you think she is?

I dont like the narrative is pushing wrt kanna.

[skitter30]

He's also misrepping her and accusing her of things that i'm not seeing happening at all

[Menalque]

I need to reread through properly rather than like ~*idly follow along*~ which is what I have been doing

But my initial impression was that either of uncrowned or kanna could be scum from early on

But then I kind of started to think that they were both potentially explainable as newb!behaviour and it was NAI

So given that I was curious as to why what I thought was potentially NAI newbiness was making you SR uncrowned but not kanna

[Uncrowned]

Again, I've asked her to show where I'm misrepping.

If she can't put the effort to defend herself in, why would you do it for her? You're cutting off our avenues of finding scum by relieving pressure atm.

You do you I guess

[skitter30]

But then I kind of started to think that they were both potentially explainable as newb!behaviour and it was NAI

How do you think uncrowned's behavior could be explained as newbtown?

I dont really see anything malicious or agenda-y in kanna's play, and i like how she's presenting and explaining her thoughts.

I think uncrowned is choosing to view her as scummy for little reason and misrepping her

[skitter30]

Again, I've asked her to show where I'm misrepping.

If she can't put the effort to defend herself in, why would you do it for her? You're cutting off our avenues of finding scum by relieving pressure atm.

You do you I guess

I already said where i thought u were misrepping her.

I also think she thinks she's defending herself, not sure why you're saying she cant put the effort in

And i dont like the way you're going about this so i'm pushing back

[Menalque]

I thought that their early posting was v surface level scumhunty

[Menalque]

One sec

[skitter30]

VOTE: MapWolf

why'd you vote mapwolf here?

Prefer to put my vote on a player that already has a vote to apply slight pressure

Between you/map/mena it didnt really matter to me

They had like one post that i liked ^

[Menalque]

VOTE: MapWolf

why'd you vote mapwolf here?

Prefer to put my vote on a player that already has a vote to apply slight pressure

Between you/map/mena it didnt really matter to me

Like this made sense to me and reminds me of newb!me

your reason for voting kinda felt forced

like I see the "logic" but it seemed like you were trying a bit too much to have a reason for voting, if that makes sense.

kinda like the opposite of skit's read on gbj having a relaxed entrance. here it feels like you're trying to score towncred early by progressing the game and having a "reason" behind it that, if you really think about it, isn't much of a "reason" at all lol

This also seemed fair and kinda tallied with my own gut reaction to the GL vote (I think this is talking about the GL vote)

[Menalque]

Again, I've asked her to show where I'm misrepping.

If she can't put the effort to defend herself in, why would you do it for her? You're cutting off our avenues of finding scum by relieving pressure atm.

You do you I guess

This is very ehhhh tho

[Menalque]

Like I can’t decide if kanna’s passivity is newb!scum feeling lost and uncrowned is town for noticing that and pushing at it

Or if kanna is newb!town feeling lost and uncrowned is newb!scum trying to exploit that by seeing her as an easy target

Or if newb!kanna is town feeling lost and uncrowned is newb!town incorrectly identifying her psssivity as scum!indicative

[Menalque]

I feel p good that it’s not SvS tho

[skitter30]

Or if kanna is newb!town feeling lost and uncrowned is newb!scum trying to exploit that by seeing her as an easy target

I think it's this one

Pedit yeah not svs

[Menalque]

Uncrowned wagon is feeling p easy tho

[skitter30]

It's a 9p newbie and he has 3 votes, not sure i'd particularly call that easy

[Menalque]

Okay but like consider me voting him too

[Map Wolf]

I'm sorry I haven't said anything meaningful, it's not on purpose. At this point, I just really don't know who is most likely to be scum.

Okay sure. I can see that being the case if town.

Alright, please elaborate.

So the reason why I said that you were "probably scum" is because of the lack of any reaction to my kind of out there vote. As for why I scumread you? I just wanted to see your reaction to it.

To respond, I thought your vote was a joke. Why would I react? And ok? So do you scumread me or not? What?

I don't know if I would expect you to react. Do I scumread you? No.

So the reason why I said that you were "probably scum" is because of the lack of any reaction to my kind of out there vote.

I dont really think the lack of reaction is ai

I was more hoping for some kind of potential scumslip.

These are the posts which sorta...rub me the wrong way?

For #121, I have trouble believing that initial vote and push on me was just a test - it felt like an actual push and then MW backpeddled when I didn't look as scummy as they hoped.

#122; This still confuses me. Again MW, do you scumread me or not? This post and your vote say two different things. It kinda looks like you want to push me but can't find a reason to. Hence the vote is still on me but there is no reasoning.

#138; MW hoping I scumslip...ok

I don't scumread you atm. I have my vote on you because I haven't moved it to someone else yet.
My initial vote was not an attempt at a push. It was an attempt to see people's reactions to it.

[Map Wolf]

Like I can’t decide if kanna’s passivity is newb!scum feeling lost and uncrowned is town for noticing that and pushing at it

Or if kanna is newb!town feeling lost and uncrowned is newb!scum trying to exploit that by seeing her as an easy target

Or if newb!kanna is town feeling lost and uncrowned is newb!town incorrectly identifying her psssivity as scum!indicative

I don't really see her posts as alignment indicating so far, though I do think the attempt at a counter-attack on me (if you can call it that) is something that could be risky if scum.

[Kanna]

Again, I've asked her to show where I'm misrepping.

If she can't put the effort to defend herself in, why would you do it for her? You're cutting off our avenues of finding scum by relieving pressure atm.

You do you I guess

I did defend myself by pointing out how I thought you were being unfair/shading me and you turned around and said I was threatened so?? I really didn’t think we were on an even playing field so it was unnecessary for me to go further.

[Kanna]

I have a feeling Uncrowned wanted me to get emotional there and full on defend myself then call me scummy for being defensive. His aggression and shade were bait.

[Kanna]

@192; I think I caught something there but I will have to reread and quote some posts for evidence. Basically, I now really don’t buy the voting me then saying I was scummy was a reaction test. I don’t find it very natural + I think this post contradicts something earlier. Really looks like MW backing off of me because I’m not such an easy push anymore.

[Kanna]

Hmmm... @Uncrowned, what is your opinion on Map Wolf?
@Map Wolf, what is your opinion on Uncrowned?

[Uncrowned]

Again, I've asked her to show where I'm misrepping.

If she can't put the effort to defend herself in, why would you do it for her? You're cutting off our avenues of finding scum by relieving pressure atm.

You do you I guess

I did defend myself by pointing out how I thought you were being unfair/shading me and you turned around and said I was threatened so?? I really didn’t think we were on an even playing field so it was unnecessary for me to go further.

I asked for specific instances of where I supposedly misrepresented you. You just saying it's unfair isn't really telling me anything.

Your reaction was eh and I'm not really worried about your slot atm. More interested in Skit. Feels like she's trying to go out of her way to defend ppl when it's not necessary and shuts down dialogue between other slots. Almost like trying to get some cred from the people she's defending. Would be a very smart move as scum to try and do that.

Haven't really looked into Map Wolf much yet but I do recall getting some opportunistic vibes from them.

[GayBabyJailor]

hey billy, what are your thoughts on kanna?