Mainstream Mafia II: D&D Edition [FIN]

[gobbledygook]

I like traitors. The current normalized version of traitor is pretty god awful though.

[Cephrir]

the flaming black sword killer both vorkuta and formerfish. Just saying.

I think this is the runelords kill method but not attached to one character.

[zoraster]

Probably actually

[Flavor Leaf]

i will 100% support sitebans for moderators who include traitors in their games

I don’t mind traitors, i just don’t like unrecruitable traitors.

I also like playing with different ways of getting traitors to join up with their squad.

Like in Last Night Tomorrow, Profii couldn’t be kill, and if he was shot, a global loud message was posted anonymously, but when Profii used all his shots up for his role, he was able to join in with the Mafia.

i didn't know there were variants that allowed the traitor to rejoin

i guess i don't hate that anywhere nearly as much

Normal games can’t vary it up, but theme games are open for play

[EspressoPatronum]

the flaming black sword killer both vorkuta and formerfish. Just saying.

Good catch! I hadn't noticed this.

the flaming black sword killer both vorkuta and formerfish. Just saying.

I think this is the runelords kill method but not attached to one character.

This seems plausible. However, we also know that Korina's character (I can't remember her name off the top of my head) is a shapeshifter in Pathfinder. It's possible Korina shapeshifted into the Aasimar woman to murder FF.

I'm leaning towards the sword being the runelord kill method, but the possibility of Korina shapeshifting and using the same sword makes this less clear. That doesn't explain the floating dogs though.

Imo, the snake person watching Chemist's death from the shadows tells me that Korina didn't make a kill, but there's still a possibility of this being a red herring.

[Cephrir]

It's possible Korina shapeshifted into the Aasimar woman to murder FF.

I guess... he didnt flip any power like that though.

[Gamma Emerald]

I missed why we're wagoning Iconeum. can anyone give me the elevator pitch?

Well for me at least it’s his terrible attempts to push gobble

[Gamma Emerald]

I mean...

I think he's probably lying. But he also said it kills him eventually and he's a cop, so... Let him kill himself?

This approach is probably good, but we don’t have a good timeline for when Rauth would die so that should be established at some point most likely

Isnt rauth clear anyway?

Through what

[Gamma Emerald]

I like traitors. The current normalized version of traitor is pretty god awful though.

How tbh
And honestly I’d rather a traitor be endgamed than have to carry on as last scum, IF they don’t get to nightkill as final scum. Pisskop can tell you why, he LIVED that nightmare.

[EspressoPatronum]

It's possible Korina shapeshifted into the Aasimar woman to murder FF.

I guess... he didnt flip any power like that though.

True. On the flip alone, he's just a snake person.

I was referring to the thing RCE mentioned earlier re Korina's character, Xanesha, being a shapeshifter in Pathfinder.

[Bingle]

I dunno, Amrun's claimed role makes it extremely likely that it's just Wooper?

My reservation on the wooper thing is: EP's push there is gross. I see it as likely to be chaining town lynches. Wooper's reaction seemed entirely reasonable, but everyone was acting like it was unreasonable.

With that said, I'm not townreading wooper and it's not a bad wagon. It's just not the slam dunk OMG THIS IS SCUM 100% people seem to want to paint it as.

his reaction sucked rhino cock. are we reading the same game?

if you don't think it's a bad wagon then let's just do it and get this over with. we have to deal with the slot at some point unless we want to just ignore Amrun's role.

VOTE: iconhe seems to be acting weird this game

I thought this was getting replaced?

I don't like how this Icon wagon appeared out of nowhere. We need to lynch in Amrun's list. Period.

This, btw, is exactly what I don't like about the wooper wagon.

"There's circumstantial evidence that there might be scum in (list of 4 people) so we ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO LYNCH THERE AND NO WHERE ELSE!"

Also, what about wooper's reaction doesn't seem town? This seems like a perfectly reasonable response to the solidity of the guilty on him. He's lurking, sure, but so are half of my townreads, so... :shrug:

[cyrus62]

icon isnt acting himself

[Cephrir]

It's possible Korina shapeshifted into the Aasimar woman to murder FF.

I guess... he didnt flip any power like that though.

True. On the flip alone, he's just a snake person.

I was referring to the thing RCE mentioned earlier re Korina's character, Xanesha, being a shapeshifter in Pathfinder.

Ya ik but this is mafia

[Cephrir]

I mean...

I think he's probably lying. But he also said it kills him eventually and he's a cop, so... Let him kill himself?

This approach is probably good, but we don’t have a good timeline for when Rauth would die so that should be established at some point most likely

Isnt rauth clear anyway?

Through what

Rce daycop?

[BBmolla]

Can I just say I have reason to exceedingly believe EP is town

So if anyone is remotely thinking that is scum you're a fool

[chkflip]

day 4 vote count 4.05

Wooper (9) -

BBmolla, Untrod Tripod, Firebringer, EspressoPatronum, Flavor Leaf, pisskop, AaronFrost, Amrun, gobbledygook

Iconeum (6) -

RCEnigma, Bingle, Cephrir, Gamma Emerald, cyrus62

Flavor Leaf -

Pink Ball, Dr Easy Bake

cyrus62 -

Almost50, Iconeum

Untrod Tripod -

Wooper

Rautherdir -

KidAmn

c62 decided to stay.
Pine, xofelf, and Iconeum have been prodded.
Writing flavor rn but it's 130am and just finished a session.

It is Day Four. 28 alive, 15 lynch.
You have (expired on 2019-12-13 22:00:00) left.

[Wooper]

VOTE: iconeum

[xofelf]

(xofelf??) says only 1 cult member alive, so for my theory to be true she must be getting the number of the

cultists

excluding the Cult Leader.

Sorry, catching up, but it isn't that I get members of the cult, it's specifically worded that I get the number of the cult in the game, so I think that includes cult leader because between flavour and what I was told, the cult increased from 1 to 2 over night 1. Anything that talks about a guard in a tower watching stuff and marking stuff is me. So I think the number I get includes the cult leader, nothing implies that they would be exempt from my ability.

[xofelf]

For lie detector: I am Cobble-Aligned.

[Rautherdir]

Oh, sorry PK, didn't actually realize that post would work for testing your alignment when you made it.

[gobbledygook]

I like traitors. The current normalized version of traitor is pretty god awful though.

How tbh
And honestly I’d rather a traitor be endgamed than have to carry on as last scum, IF they don’t get to nightkill as final scum. Pisskop can tell you why, he LIVED that nightmare.

The thing that is wrong with the current normal traitor is that they die if shot at and also do just lose if their other members die. Also the name traitor is kind of bad for what the role actually is.

[gobbledygook]

"There's circumstantial evidence that there might be scum in (list of 4 people) so we ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO LYNCH THERE AND NO WHERE ELSE!"

Also, what about wooper's reaction doesn't seem town? This seems like a perfectly reasonable response to the solidity of the guilty on him. He's lurking, sure, but so are half of my townreads, so... :shrug:

Going off information is always better than going off plain reads. You have information!

Also, Wooper’s first instinct was to lurk. Then to be incredibly obstinate I’m figuring everything out. He’s lurking again, but I’m not going to hold that against him when I gave him a pass to do it.

Plus, we have the shenanigans with BBmolla’s role. There’s too much sketchiness surrounding Wooper. He needs to be verified.

[pisskop]

I like traitors. The current normalized version of traitor is pretty god awful though.

How tbh
And honestly I’d rather a traitor be endgamed than have to carry on as last scum, IF they don’t get to nightkill as final scum. Pisskop can tell you why, he LIVED that nightmare.

It was just awful. I think it was the worst thing to push my wincon and try to get one of two ICs killed.

poor pieguyn. I had so many pages of fighting with them.

[Gamma Emerald]

I will leave you all to discuss this list of people I think are possible cult leader.

36. Almost50

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Like, the mere fact than Menalque of all people was culted is proof enough I am not the Cult Leader!! Furthermore, if I was the Cult Leader my first 3 recruits would have been Nero, Bingle & FL. These are people I know I can work with just fine. There are others but these are/would have been my top 3 choices.

yo FOH with self-meta. have more respect for the rest of the players than to post that bullshit.

this isn't meta per se, though. It's more of .. erm.. a public relations status? The fact is I don't get a long with Menalque so well, like.. ever. he SRs me in every single game we play together, and I SR him back. It'd be really awkward if we both suddenly started to TR each other out of the blue. I actually look forward to the day when we roll Masons together. If I was a Cult Recruiter then out of the other 39 slots Menalque & DEB would have been the bottom 2 priorities for me to target.

You weren’t in the game for part of it though, so acting like your personal biases really matter is super sketchy

[davesaz]

explain to me why you saying that i should effectively be ignored and i'm just as good as not playing the game whatsoever should not be taken personally

I'm waaay behind in my catch up, but this back and forth caught my eye.

Regardless of how well they're doing, 3p should not be town leaders. It's a basic principle. I don't know why you'd take it personally.