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Post Post #575 (ISO) » Sat Dec 07, 2019 8:57 pm

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In post 566, Dolly Parton wrote:
In post 564, SausasaurusRex wrote:
In post 550, Dolly Parton wrote:
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DAY 1 - DUEL


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Cast your VOTE: wisely!


VOTE: Jake The Wolfie
VOTE: Dolly Parton

This “duel” thing and “if you vote me you’re scum” is much scummier than anything Invisible has done. Therefore, I will vote Dolly.

This is L-1


However, I would like to give her a chance to defend herself before anyone hammers.
I have already claimed. VT. I want you to compare me with Jake and not Invis for your vote. If you still want to vote me, I'll accept it. Just remember when i flip VT that Jake has to go tomorrow.
Very well. You are scummy for starting both this duel and the “vote me and you’re scum” thing. It is scummy because it artificially attempts to stop people voting you, and is very illogical reasoning for why people can be scum. In addition, claiming that anyone not voting you is scum allows you to have 9 scumreads. It also puts those 9 people in an unwinnable position: vote Dolly and you’re scum, or don’t vote Dolly and still be scum.
You also did scummy things in the past, like the fake mason claim,

However, Jake is not scummy. His play is very similar to when he was town in my last game. However, I understand this is a meta-argument, and so is easily fakeable. He was also the first to call Dolly out about the “vote me and you’re scum” and makes valid arguments against it.

Even if Jake was null for me, it would be better to vote Dolly because of all the scummy things she’s done. Therefore, I voted Dolly.
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Post Post #576 (ISO) » Sat Dec 07, 2019 9:00 pm

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In post 573, Jake The Wolfie wrote:
In post 572, Dolly Parton wrote:Lie detector is NOT a normal role.

Scum claim #3
You're right, I'm a Disloyal Doctor.
How does that work? Wouldn’t you only be able to use your ability on mafia?
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Post Post #577 (ISO) » Sat Dec 07, 2019 9:01 pm

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In post 575, SausasaurusRex wrote:
In post 566, Dolly Parton wrote:
In post 564, SausasaurusRex wrote:
In post 550, Dolly Parton wrote:
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DAY 1 - DUEL


Dolly Parton
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Cast your VOTE: wisely!


VOTE: Jake The Wolfie
VOTE: Dolly Parton

This “duel” thing and “if you vote me you’re scum” is much scummier than anything Invisible has done. Therefore, I will vote Dolly.

This is L-1


However, I would like to give her a chance to defend herself before anyone hammers.
I have already claimed. VT. I want you to compare me with Jake and not Invis for your vote. If you still want to vote me, I'll accept it. Just remember when i flip VT that Jake has to go tomorrow.
Very well. You are scummy for starting both this duel and the “vote me and you’re scum” thing. It is scummy because it artificially attempts to stop people voting you, and is very illogical reasoning for why people can be scum. In addition, claiming that anyone not voting you is scum allows you to have 9 scumreads. It also puts those 9 people in an unwinnable position: vote Dolly and you’re scum, or don’t vote Dolly and still be scum.
You also did scummy things in the past, like the fake mason claim,

However, Jake is not scummy. His play is very similar to when he was town in my last game. However, I understand this is a meta-argument, and so is easily fakeable. He was also the first to call Dolly out about the “vote me and you’re scum” and makes valid arguments against it.

Even if Jake was null for me, it would be better to vote Dolly because of all the scummy things she’s done. Therefore, I voted Dolly.
I want to ADD. It is not a SCUM CLAIM to vote me in the context of this duel. Those comments about voting me and you ar escum were from before the DUEL started.
If you want to vote me over Jake, you can freely do so without being scumread for it. But I want you to seriously think about it before lynching VT Dolly.
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Post Post #578 (ISO) » Sat Dec 07, 2019 9:02 pm

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In post 576, SausasaurusRex wrote:
In post 573, Jake The Wolfie wrote:
In post 572, Dolly Parton wrote:Lie detector is NOT a normal role.

Scum claim #3
You're right, I'm a Disloyal Doctor.
How does that work? Wouldn’t you only be able to use your ability on mafia?
He's trolling. But I can't complain about it, I made a fake mason claim. Still, we are in the DUEL phase so it's unnecessary at this time.
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Post Post #579 (ISO) » Sat Dec 07, 2019 9:03 pm

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In post 576, SausasaurusRex wrote:
In post 573, Jake The Wolfie wrote:
In post 572, Dolly Parton wrote:Lie detector is NOT a normal role.

Scum claim #3
You're right, I'm a Disloyal Doctor.
How does that work? Wouldn’t you only be able to use your ability on mafia?
Hey, if it's bad it's me. But I'm not that. I'm a werewolf, for obvious reasons.
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Post Post #580 (ISO) » Sat Dec 07, 2019 9:07 pm

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In post 579, Jake The Wolfie wrote:
In post 576, SausasaurusRex wrote:
In post 573, Jake The Wolfie wrote:
In post 572, Dolly Parton wrote:Lie detector is NOT a normal role.

Scum claim #3
You're right, I'm a Disloyal Doctor.
How does that work? Wouldn’t you only be able to use your ability on mafia?
Hey, if it's bad it's me. But I'm not that. I'm a werewolf, for obvious reasons.
Jake can you make an actual claim please?
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Post Post #581 (ISO) » Sat Dec 07, 2019 9:11 pm

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Anyway, the total reasons that I've compiled that I'm apparently scum (by Dolly)

I voted them

I voted them x2

I Unvoted them

I joke claimed

I joke claimed x2

I joke claimed x3
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Post Post #582 (ISO) » Sat Dec 07, 2019 9:12 pm

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In post 580, SausasaurusRex wrote:
In post 579, Jake The Wolfie wrote:
In post 576, SausasaurusRex wrote:
In post 573, Jake The Wolfie wrote:
In post 572, Dolly Parton wrote:Lie detector is NOT a normal role.

Scum claim #3
You're right, I'm a Disloyal Doctor.
How does that work? Wouldn’t you only be able to use your ability on mafia?
Hey, if it's bad it's me. But I'm not that. I'm a werewolf, for obvious reasons.
Jake can you make an actual claim please?
All you need to know is that I am a Vanilla Town.
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Post Post #583 (ISO) » Sat Dec 07, 2019 9:12 pm

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In post 581, Jake The Wolfie wrote:Anyway, the total reasons that I've compiled that I'm apparently scum (by Dolly)

I voted them

I voted them x2

I Unvoted them

I joke claimed

I joke claimed x2

I joke claimed x3
This is not that simple. I called on scum to vote me next and you couldn't resist. Your ego will be your downfall. Sorry it's just how it is. Maybe next time.
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Post Post #584 (ISO) » Sat Dec 07, 2019 9:19 pm

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In post 583, Dolly Parton wrote:
In post 581, Jake The Wolfie wrote:Anyway, the total reasons that I've compiled that I'm apparently scum (by Dolly)

I voted them

I voted them x2

I Unvoted them

I joke claimed

I joke claimed x2

I joke claimed x3
This is not that simple. I called on scum to vote me next and you couldn't resist. Your ego will be your downfall. Sorry it's just how it is. Maybe next time.
So.. I'm egotistical therefore scum? I don't follow.
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Post Post #585 (ISO) » Sat Dec 07, 2019 9:21 pm

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In post 584, Jake The Wolfie wrote:
In post 583, Dolly Parton wrote:
In post 581, Jake The Wolfie wrote:Anyway, the total reasons that I've compiled that I'm apparently scum (by Dolly)

I voted them

I voted them x2

I Unvoted them

I joke claimed

I joke claimed x2

I joke claimed x3
This is not that simple. I called on scum to vote me next and you couldn't resist. Your ego will be your downfall. Sorry it's just how it is. Maybe next time.
So.. I'm egotistical therefore scum? I don't follow.
Your ego got the best of you when I called scum to vote me and your voted for me directly afterwards. You wanted to scum claim just to lol in post game.

We won't fall for it! We won't be the fool! Not now. Not ever.
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Post Post #586 (ISO) » Sat Dec 07, 2019 9:25 pm

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In post 585, Dolly Parton wrote:
In post 584, Jake The Wolfie wrote:
In post 583, Dolly Parton wrote:
In post 581, Jake The Wolfie wrote:Anyway, the total reasons that I've compiled that I'm apparently scum (by Dolly)

I voted them

I voted them x2

I Unvoted them

I joke claimed

I joke claimed x2

I joke claimed x3
This is not that simple. I called on scum to vote me next and you couldn't resist. Your ego will be your downfall. Sorry it's just how it is. Maybe next time.
So.. I'm egotistical therefore scum? I don't follow.
Your ego got the best of you when I called scum to vote me and your voted for me directly afterwards. You wanted to scum claim just to lol in post game.

We won't fall for it! We won't be the fool! Not now. Not ever.
Also, you have spoken more than 0 times before the end of game. Therefore you're scum. Too bad your ego got the best of you.
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Post Post #587 (ISO) » Sat Dec 07, 2019 9:41 pm

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Please tell me again why you're voting Invisibility in . : Do you think rb could be Scum and is tunneling Dolly? I agree with the first half of , but I'd like you to guess as to why I don't agree with your second half of it. On I think we should talk more about you thinking Dolly should be Townread regarding rb's behavior. I like that you also caught that in ; want to join me in pressuring this? Not sure I like your ... Also, why did you join on Jake's wagon in ? I too would like to see Invisibility expand on .

Arkias
You seem eager to find a reason in to join the Invisibility wagon. I like because I agree with all of it. : It can be whatever; don't let people tell you how to play the game. Could you please briefly explain your gut-vote in ?

Billy Pilgrim
: Regarding Dolly, Invisibility, and Jake, who would you vote if you had to, and why? I think the better reason to vote Dolly would be , Billy, if she doesn't explain herself.

Dolly Parton
Not particularly liking your . For the record meta-wise, I never do Mason claims. Although I am still curious why you would target me for that claim. : In no way does that make me ObvTown, and I don't think it's reasonable for Town-You to really have that notion this early in the game. I agree with . You know, for someone being Scumread for a fake Mason claim, you appear eager to vote Invisibility for a perceived Scumslip (). : I don't like this. : What? I REALLY don't like , and I could hammer you right now for it but I want an explanation from you on this. Please explain . : Noted. Somehow I'm not convinced by . I don't like the "reasoning" behind . I need you to thoroughly respond to please.

eth0s
I don't like your vote in because to me it feels opportunistic. Do you currently support Jake's lynch? Regarding , how are you reading him currently? On I don't think he's had a completed Scum-game yet, so we don't know alimdia's Scum-meta. : Alimdia should not be above scrutiny, and Uzi has done barely anything this game.

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Not liking your . Sarcasm rarely translates well on text. I agree with ; a joke Mason claim does not a Scum make. Please tell me more your reasoning behind . I like . : A good question, and not a fair thing to really ask, especially during Day 1.

Jake The Wolfie
Please tell me again how Invisibility was quicklynching you in . I do however like your response to eth0s in . Only Scum self-votes to help themselves, so as Town you should never do that in . : Are you new to Mafia? I agree with . I also agree with . I can't agree with . I agree there hasn't been much from that slot wrt . I agree with , in that Dolly does appear to be doing a lot of shade-throwing.

Joey_
Please elaborate on . : That presumes you assume he is Town, which is knowledge you should not be having if you are Town. You should make it not a secret regarding , Joey.

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OK, I do not like , because you are way too quick to join the wagon: I want to know why
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I need to hear more from you, Uzi.


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I'm not that convinced it was a slip, rb (). I wouldn't mind seeing Rex pressured more. So confident you seem in . I'm liking the latter half of . Unsure the reason for the Dolly vote in but I'm assuming it was a reaction test. I find your overconfidence in disturbing: you know Town is not informed, so if you're uninformed confidence is not something you should have (especially during the early part of Day 1). : Obviously if they were to flip Scum you would deal with the consequences. I don't recall getting a reaction from you regarding my . seems completely unnecessary. In regards to , alimdia shouldn't be Townreading Dolly for that. : I'm still not convince Invisibility Scum-slipped, although I've been wrong before. I like that you picked up on that in . Regarding I still think pressuring Rex is a good idea.

SausasaurusRex
How well do you fare under pressure as Scum? Your vote on Dolly regarding the fakeclaim is, to me, opportunistic. In you meant fake-claim, not counter-claim, correct...? OK, you corrected yourself. I need you to be very specific regarding why you switched your vote from Dolly to Invisibility in . I agree with . : Good question. Not sure how to read .

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I agree with . I don't agree at all with , however. Are you saying in it does or doesn't? I think we should hear more from eth0s in general wrt . I can't agree with you on : sometimes it's way too difficult to sort players, especially early on. I do agree with.

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Post Post #588 (ISO) » Sat Dec 07, 2019 9:52 pm

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In post 587, Wake1 wrote:
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Not particularly liking your . For the record meta-wise, I never do Mason claims. Although I am still curious why you would target me for that claim. : In no way does that make me ObvTown, and I don't think it's reasonable for Town-You to really have that notion this early in the game. I agree with . You know, for someone being Scumread for a fake Mason claim, you appear eager to vote Invisibility for a perceived Scumslip (). : I don't like this. : What? I REALLY don't like , and I could hammer you right now for it but I want an explanation from you on this. Please explain . : Noted. Somehow I'm not convinced by . I don't like the "reasoning" behind . I need you to thoroughly respond to please.
I targeted you because you were active at the time.

I wanted to pressure Invis and the slip was the hot topic at the time.

I highly TR Alim. It's my most TR of all. A quick Alim lynch at that time would have gave us no info from VCA tomorrow.

I responded to 558 as much as I would like to.

I can't help that you don't believe it was a trap. But it was. And it worked. You can lynch me and I will flip
VT
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Did I miss anything?
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Post Post #589 (ISO) » Sat Dec 07, 2019 10:18 pm

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In post 587, Wake1 wrote:
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How well do you fare under pressure as Scum? Your vote on Dolly regarding the fakeclaim is, to me, opportunistic. In you meant fake-claim, not counter-claim, correct...? OK, you corrected yourself. I need you to be very specific regarding why you switched your vote from Dolly to Invisibility in . I agree with . : Good question. Not sure how to read
You say you want me to be very specific in why I switched my vote from Dolly to Invisiblity. Was not enough? I changed my vote because I thought Invisible’s slip was more of a scumtell than Dolly’s. This is because Dolly at least had a possible reason to fakeclaim - it
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have gotten some information from you. However, Invisible’s slip had no town reasoning (I.e. there was no reason for town to do it), so I felt his was more scummy than Dolly’s. Therefore, I voted him.
I don’t think my initial vote on Dolly was opportunistic. I don’t believe there were anywhere near enough votes to lynch her when I voted her, and there was solid reasoning for why I though she was worthy of a vote.

What I want to hear from you, Wake, is some stances. You’ve said lots of things, commented on people’s play, and asked many questions, but you didn’t give a single solid read. Remaining nebulous to be able to change your reads later is a scumtell, no? Who is town, and who is scum?
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Post Post #590 (ISO) » Sun Dec 08, 2019 12:58 am

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yeah im not reading that
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Post Post #591 (ISO) » Sun Dec 08, 2019 1:00 am

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if i have to follow a link and a link and another link in a post just to make it make sense, im not convinced the writer of the post is trying to be understood and will assume they're just doing busy work to look good without doing anything actually useful

i don't particularly care to lynch wake at this point

i also don't particularly care if he is lynched
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Post Post #592 (ISO) » Sun Dec 08, 2019 1:01 am

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god this game is so full of bullshit right now
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Post Post #593 (ISO) » Sun Dec 08, 2019 1:02 am

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oh is billy kcdaspot?

UNVOTE: billy pilgrim

ok then
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Post Post #594 (ISO) » Sun Dec 08, 2019 1:05 am

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alright so

im okay with lynching: Dolly, Invisibility, Saus

i don't really have a clear direction on anyone yet unless i assume bad = scum

and yeah, it may well be
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Post Post #595 (ISO) » Sun Dec 08, 2019 1:11 am

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In post 594, rb wrote:alright so

im okay with lynching: Dolly, Invisibility, Saus

i don't really have a clear direction on anyone yet unless i assume bad = scum

and yeah, it may well be
What put me on your lynchlist?
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Post Post #596 (ISO) » Sun Dec 08, 2019 1:11 am

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In post 590, rb wrote:yeah im not reading that
In post 591, rb wrote:if i have to follow a link and a link and another link in a post just to make it make sense, im not convinced the writer of the post is trying to be understood and will assume they're just doing busy work to look good without doing anything actually useful

i don't particularly care to lynch wake at this point

i also don't particularly care if he is lynched
Ah, so you're Scum or lazy Town.

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Post Post #597 (ISO) » Sun Dec 08, 2019 3:02 am

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In post 521, Dolly Parton wrote:eth0s and Joey are wild cards. Could go either way.
Weird pov, how am i a wild card ?
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Post Post #598 (ISO) » Sun Dec 08, 2019 3:06 am

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um don't hammer. Also wake your questions to me will have to wait.
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Post Post #599 (ISO) » Sun Dec 08, 2019 3:08 am

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Dolly you are fucking up the game and its a disservice for town
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