Newbie 1971 [Game Over!]

[Billy Pilgrim]

R u scum billy?

Nah, are you?

[Billy Pilgrim]

hey billy, what are your thoughts on kanna?

I dont see what Skitt sees. Tbh, I think Skitt could be trying to WK a newbie that was townreading her.

I cant profess any proficiency in reading folks, particularly newer players though.

At the moment, I'm liking Lion and mena.

I'm kinda paranoid of Skitter and I think her interactions with the Lion slot, who I think was legitimately trying to sort, vs. The kanna slot, which to me is almost dead null, means I want to pressure there.

VOTE: Skitter

@Mena - where you at on Skitt?

@Lion - why arent you scumreading Skitter? If you think she is bvb interfering with your sorting, how are you reading her?

@GBJ- why did you think Lion was scumreading Skitter?

[the worst]

vote count 1.06

Map Wolf (0) :
Kanna (2) : Map Wolf, Uncrowned
GayBabyJailor (0) :
Uncrowned (3) : Kanna, GuiltyLion, skitter30
Non lmh (0) :
Billy Pilgrim (1) : GayBabyJailor
GuiltyLion (1) : Non lmh
Menalque (0) :
skitter30 (1) : Billy Pilgrim

not voting: Menalque

with 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch.

day one will end automatically in (expired on 2019-12-14 11:30:00) or sooner if a lynch is achieved by majority.


mod notes:
- skitter30 v/la weekends
- Non lmh v/la until tuesday
- quack

[Map Wolf]

UNVOTE: Kanna
For now.

[Map Wolf]

Hmmm... @Uncrowned, what is your opinion on Map Wolf?
@Map Wolf, what is your opinion on Uncrowned?

Null. His vote on you is either opportunistic or just town wanting something to actually happen.

[Menalque]

R u scum billy?

Nah, are you?

yeh, I'm always scum

how does this affect your reads?

[Billy Pilgrim]

R u scum billy?

Nah, are you?

yeh, I'm always scum

how does this affect your reads?

Not at all, how did my answer affect yours? Tbh though you feel mad different from that game with Korina and Datisi. You playing different now? Not demanding your pushes get seen through?

[GayBabyJailor]

@GBJ- why did you think Lion was scumreading Skitter?

when did i say this?

[Billy Pilgrim]

@GBJ- why did you think Lion was scumreading Skitter?

when did i say this?

I'm sorry, I confused you and non imh. My apologies, I posted those at 3 in the morning after probably a bit too much scotch to have been trying analysis.

@nom imh - can you answer why you thought GL was scumreading Skitter?

[skitter30]

I dont see what Skitt sees. Tbh, I think Skitt could be trying to WK a newbie that was townreading her.

I cant profess any proficiency in reading folks, particularly newer players though.

At the moment, I'm liking Lion and mena.

I'm kinda paranoid of Skitter and I think her interactions with the Lion slot, who I think was legitimately trying to sort, vs. The kanna slot, which to me is almost dead null, means I want to pressure there.

a few things:

a) what are you referring to when you say '[you] don't see what skitter sees' ?

b) yes, i am wk'ing a newbie, one who i feel is being pushed for rather dubious reasons; the fact she was tl'ing me isn't particularly relevant

c) what do you like about mena?

d) i don't understand the comparison your'e trying to draw in the last paragraph wrt lion and kanna

[Billy Pilgrim]

I dont see what Skitt sees. Tbh, I think Skitt could be trying to WK a newbie that was townreading her.

I cant profess any proficiency in reading folks, particularly newer players though.

At the moment, I'm liking Lion and mena.

I'm kinda paranoid of Skitter and I think her interactions with the Lion slot, who I think was legitimately trying to sort, vs. The kanna slot, which to me is almost dead null, means I want to pressure there.

a few things:

a) what are you referring to when you say '[you] don't see what skitter sees' ?

b) yes, i am wk'ing a newbie, one who i feel is being pushed for rather dubious reasons; the fact she was tl'ing me isn't particularly relevant

c) what do you like about mena?

d) i don't understand the comparison your'e trying to draw in the last paragraph wrt lion and kanna

A) I assume you're townreading Kanna, i dont see why. I'm not scumreading her, I've got her as null.

B) I see what you're saying here, but I'm paranoid about you, so you'll forgive me if I dont trust your self-report of your intentions.

C) I think Mena's engagement has been genuine. I saw good interactions from him with you, with GBJ. Mostly his early play.

D) I think my primary concern is that I dont see how you're townreading Kanna while you were pushing Lion. Lion felt line a solid townread to me, while Kanna is null-town at best. So your hard defense of Kanna felt a bit off.

[Menalque]

R u scum billy?

Nah, are you?

yeh, I'm always scum

how does this affect your reads?

Not at all, how did my answer affect yours? Tbh though you feel mad different from that game with Korina and Datisi.

You playing different now? Not demanding your pushes get seen through?

yes to both Qs

[Menalque]

why are you paranoid about skitter?

[Billy Pilgrim]

why are you paranoid about skitter?

Reasons.

[Menalque]

Wow

So help

Much useful

[Billy Pilgrim]

Wow

So help

Much useful

Sorry. If I'm in a game with Skitt right now, I think its crucial to sort her D1. I have some questions about her interactions with those two slots, so I'd like to pressure it and sort it a bit.

[GuiltyLion]

@Lion - why arent you scumreading Skitter? If you think she is bvb interfering with your sorting, how are you reading her?

I think it is fair to be suspicious of me for the reasons she stated and I think our early game friction was play style clash more than her trying to spread dirt on me as scum. I think when she's looked outside my slot she's noticed or read things much the same way I am reading them and even when she backed down from me I felt it was genuine realizing she was barking up a wrong tree more than scum trying to navigate an escape from an argument they didn't want.

I really think you should focus on Kanna/Uncrowned/Skitter. I TR Kanna's posting and completely agree with what Skitter has also said about how Uncrowned seems to be choosing to interpret Kanna's posts as uncharitably as possible

[GuiltyLion]

Hmmm... @Uncrowned, what is your opinion on Map Wolf?
@Map Wolf, what is your opinion on Uncrowned?

Null. His vote on you is either opportunistic or just town wanting something to actually happen.

this isn't a read. I want you to make a choice here which you think is more likely.

[Uncrowned]

VOTE: skitter30

[Menalque]

I think scum is probably all in (uncrowned, map wolf, non Imh, billy)

[Menalque]

VOTE: skitter30

go on

[Uncrowned]

K.

Skit interrupted GL's attempted push at the start of the game. I let it slide because it's a one time thing.

Then I test Kanna and she jumps in a second time.

Let the interactions play out themselves imo. If she's not scum it's anti-town at the least.

Also thought there was a possibility of it being a scum move to defend players she knows is town to try and pocket them, assuming both Non Imh and Kanna are town, which I think the latter most likely is at this point.

[Map Wolf]

Hmmm... @Uncrowned, what is your opinion on Map Wolf?
@Map Wolf, what is your opinion on Uncrowned?

Null. His vote on you is either opportunistic or just town wanting something to actually happen.

this isn't a read. I want you to make a choice here which you think is more likely.

Town is more likely.

[Map Wolf]

I think scum is probably all in (uncrowned, map wolf, non Imh, billy)

Why do you think that for non Imh & billy?

Also, if you think that doing a push on a new player is scummy, then I'd disagree.

[Map Wolf]

VOTE: skitter30

To be honest, there's a chance that scum is Uncrowned and Skitter.