Open 769: Venrob's PYP X/Y (Town Wins)

[Luca Blight]

Fmpov Skitter must be the last scum, then. Everyone request a fast night please so we can finish this.

[Wooper]

sigh... Luca and skitter are guilty to each other anyway. Doesn't make a difference

Good idea

[TheWizard]

Wooper (3):

skitter30, Luca Blight, Kerset

Not Voting (2):

Wooper, Adorable

Wooper will be lynched today. If he's Vengeful, he should submit his action now.

Twilight ends in:

(expired on 2019-12-07 10:10:00)

[TheWizard]

Wooper has been lynched. They were:

Spoiler:

Night 2 Vigilante

Night ends in:

(expired on 2019-12-09 10:29:00)

[TheWizard]

Adorable died last night. They were:

Spoiler:

Vanilla Townie

Day 7 begins!

Deadline:

(expired on 2019-12-19 10:33:00)

[skitter30]

Luca has a gun

VOTE: luca

@kerset lmk if there's anything you want/need from me

[Luca Blight]

Nope, I don't.

VOTE: Skitter

I think this should be a pretty simple decision. I'll post more in a bit.

[Luca Blight]

The fact that I pushed hard to lynch Fetchd instead of Skitter, and then had the plan of keeping Skitter alive so she could clear other Townies before LYLO, when she could have investigated me at any time, should show that I'm Town.

[Luca Blight]

For example, I could see a Skitter/Suji possibility.

The only reason I TR Suji was because of his interactions with Billy.

Do they both hard secure their team mate's death. Like skitter MADE billy the Lynch, p much singlehandedly. Which I can see. I feel like skitter probably coaches Suji and billy better than that.

Posts like these are what first made me suspect a Fetchd/Skitter team.

It was clearly me who hard-pushed the Billy lynch, but Fetchd kept trying to give Skitter the credit for it despite supposedly scumreading Skitter.

[Luca Blight]

Do you really think that town!skitter would just survive up to tomorrow? Sounds like 1% chance.

The point is, we don’t know she is Town. If she eats the NK then it’s better than having to lynch her.

If we ML then Skitter could be kept alive for WIFOM reasons, as we’re then in a MYLO situation.

Right now my *gut feeling* is that Wooper is the final scum.

given the ~ruckus~ about me this game i'm honestly not sure i get nk'd here; i think last scum needs me alive to push me as a mislynch

In her position Skitter, as Town, would have felt more at risk of being the NK, given she literally had the power to clear a Townie or end the game with a guilty with two lynches to spare.

As Kerset said before, Skitter gets NK at this point just about every time if she's Town. The only reason she might not have been was if Wooper were scum, because Skitter couldn't investigate him anyway, but we now obviously know Wooper was Town.

[skitter30]

The fact that I pushed hard to lynch Fetchd instead of Skitter, and then had the plan of keeping Skitter alive so she could clear other Townies before LYLO, when she could have investigated me at any time, should show that I'm Town.

you were always last in the investigative pecking order and i was tr'ing you throughout the game so i don't think you would have felt particularly threatened

[skitter30]

For example, I could see a Skitter/Suji possibility.

The only reason I TR Suji was because of his interactions with Billy.

Do they both hard secure their team mate's death. Like skitter MADE billy the Lynch, p much singlehandedly. Which I can see. I feel like skitter probably coaches Suji and billy better than that.

Posts like these are what first made me suspect a Fetchd/Skitter team.

It was clearly me who hard-pushed the Billy lynch, but Fetchd kept trying to give Skitter the credit for it despite supposedly scumreading Skitter.

nah, the billy lynch i don't think would have happened that day if i hadn't voted him when i did; it turned the tides from the xayah thing towards billy and i could have entirely avoided the billy lynch if i were scum by just, like, pushing xayah instead

[skitter30]

Do you really think that town!skitter would just survive up to tomorrow? Sounds like 1% chance.

The point is, we don’t know she is Town. If she eats the NK then it’s better than having to lynch her.

If we ML then Skitter could be kept alive for WIFOM reasons, as we’re then in a MYLO situation.

Right now my *gut feeling* is that Wooper is the final scum.

given the ~ruckus~ about me this game i'm honestly not sure i get nk'd here; i think last scum needs me alive to push me as a mislynch

In her position Skitter, as Town, would have felt more at risk of being the NK, given she literally had the power to clear a Townie or end the game with a guilty with two lynches to spare.

As Kerset said before, Skitter gets NK at this point just about every time if she's Town. The only reason she might not have been was if Wooper were scum, because Skitter couldn't investigate him anyway, but we now obviously know Wooper was Town.

i think you were seeing me as a viable mislynch option for the last portion of the game

[Luca Blight]

The fact that I pushed hard to lynch Fetchd instead of Skitter, and then had the plan of keeping Skitter alive so she could clear other Townies before LYLO, when she could have investigated me at any time, should show that I'm Town.

you were always last in the investigative pecking order and i was tr'ing you throughout the game so i don't think you would have felt particularly threatened

I didn't feel threatened because I'm Town. If I were scum I would most certainly have felt threatened by what was essentially a cop.

[Luca Blight]

For example, I could see a Skitter/Suji possibility.

The only reason I TR Suji was because of his interactions with Billy.

Do they both hard secure their team mate's death. Like skitter MADE billy the Lynch, p much singlehandedly. Which I can see. I feel like skitter probably coaches Suji and billy better than that.

Posts like these are what first made me suspect a Fetchd/Skitter team.

It was clearly me who hard-pushed the Billy lynch, but Fetchd kept trying to give Skitter the credit for it despite supposedly scumreading Skitter.

nah, the billy lynch i don't think would have happened that day if i hadn't voted him when i did; it turned the tides from the xayah thing towards billy and i could have entirely avoided the billy lynch if i were scum by just, like, pushing xayah instead

Your vote didn't guarantee a Billy lynch, either. It just gave you some insurance in case his lynch was pushed through. It worked as that was the reason I was TR'ing you, until you slipped up with the Frost situation.

The important fact here though is that Fetched, confirmed scum, was trying to give you all the credit for the lynch despite supposedly SR'ing you. It struck me as very odd even at the time.

[Luca Blight]

Spoiler:

Do you really think that town!skitter would just survive up to tomorrow? Sounds like 1% chance.

The point is, we don’t know she is Town. If she eats the NK then it’s better than having to lynch her.

If we ML then Skitter could be kept alive for WIFOM reasons, as we’re then in a MYLO situation.

Right now my *gut feeling* is that Wooper is the final scum.

given the ~ruckus~ about me this game i'm honestly not sure i get nk'd here; i think last scum needs me alive to push me as a mislynch

In her position Skitter, as Town, would have felt more at risk of being the NK, given she literally had the power to clear a Townie or end the game with a guilty with two lynches to spare.

As Kerset said before, Skitter gets NK at this point just about every time if she's Town. The only reason she might not have been was if Wooper were scum, because Skitter couldn't investigate him anyway, but we now obviously know Wooper was Town.

i think you were seeing me as a viable mislynch option for the last portion of the game

Why would I suggest the no-lynch? That would be making this unnecessarily difficult for myself as scum, no?

As it turns out, it was absolutely the correct decision given you are actually scum.

[Kerset]

Luca has a gun

VOTE: luca

@kerset lmk if there's anything you want/need from me

There was no point in checking that. I told you that you should check me.

[Kerset]

I don't know whenever there is any point in this day. I should basically assume that you are scum, who was too afraid to gamble with me.

[TheWizard]

Luca Blight (1):

skitter30

skitter30 (1):

Luca Blight

Not Voting (1):

Kerset

With 3 alive it takes 2 to lynch.

Deadline:

(expired on 2019-12-19 10:33:00)

[Luca Blight]

That's a good point. If Skitter were really Town then she could have checked to see if you commuted or not, because scum can't kill and use their ability in the same night.

Checking me from Skitter's PoV gained absolutely nothing, as Kerset was already cleared and I should already have been confscum to her.

[skitter30]

Luca has a gun

VOTE: luca

@kerset lmk if there's anything you want/need from me

There was no point in checking that. I told you that you should check me.

Didnt see you saying that ...

[skitter30]

That's a good point. If Skitter were really Town then she could have checked to see if you commuted or not, because scum can't kill and use their ability in the same night.

Checking me from Skitter's PoV gained absolutely nothing, as Kerset was already cleared and I should already have been confscum to her.

I mean checking the conftown is kinda silly; once the flip happened yesterday i kinda knew what i'd get on both of you

[Luca Blight]

You haven't shown a Townie mindset with how you've used your role at all. I don't believe you didn't see Kerset saying it as it was one of the last posts before Night fell.

Also the way you still had a slight SR on Frost despite finding he had no gun, and then not believing his UB claim even though that should have confirmed him as Town from your PoV.

[Kerset]

VOTE: skitter

[skitter30]

You got it

Kinda knew i'd be losing in f3 like 2 weeks ago