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Post Post #1150 (ISO) » Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:07 am

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In post 1144, Salamence20 wrote:Why are you on Aaron now when you had plenty of chances earlier? What is it about creature that made you think AF is scum?
I wasn't going to move off of Creature while he was still absent, I wanted to hear from him.

I was never a huge fan of Aaron, he's hovering somewhere around scumlean just like Creature was (though Creatures up to a townlean, because I have a hard time believing that Creature thought what he just posted would save him). Creature seems to know what he's talking about re: Aaron and I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt and lynch in the two of them.
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Post Post #1151 (ISO) » Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:08 am

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In post 1126, DrDolittle wrote:
In post 1113, Creature wrote:I think there should have two scum in here:

Datisi, Amrun, DrDolittle, AaronFrost
is this just from the last 4 people that voted you or does this have any addl substance behind it
Salamence and GuiltyLion have been enough town

It's the four stooges there that seem to have just hopped along to save Amrun from being lynched presumably
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Post Post #1152 (ISO) » Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:09 am

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People on your wagon
People off your wagon
Hesitation to vote/diverting

Seriously your flip gives me pretty good reads on Alimida/Ico/Menal/Datisi/SS/GL and more, regardless of alignment.

Why is aaron scum?
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Post Post #1153 (ISO) » Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:10 am

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In post 1130, Salamence20 wrote:I dont like the fact we are going after aaron with less than 24 hours.
No one likes the fact there's no plurality lynch in a setup of this nature

No one likes the fact most town decided to go for rose instead of just flipping a coin between gun and rose

No one likes the fact most players here are being unreadable rn
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Post Post #1154 (ISO) » Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:10 am

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In post 1152, Salamence20 wrote:Seriously your flip gives me pretty good reads on Alimida/Ico/Menal/Datisi/SS/GL and more,
regardless of alignment
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lol?
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Post Post #1155 (ISO) » Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:11 am

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In post 1152, Salamence20 wrote:Why is aaron scum?
Already said:

I should be able to tell he's obvtown if he's town but he isn't

He's just standing in the sidelines and going along
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Post Post #1156 (ISO) » Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:12 am

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Also tbh I don't think I ever won a game as town by mislynching town "for info"
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Post Post #1157 (ISO) » Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:12 am

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I have no issue with what you said. You are 100% correct. However we dont know why roses were picked. We can presume people were scared but then people like ico and pretentious dont look like people who wouldnt want a gun (assuming they are town).

I just think alot of discussion picked up after you were voted, do you agree?
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Post Post #1158 (ISO) » Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:20 am

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idk at all

don't know how that's indicative of anything
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Post Post #1159 (ISO) » Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:20 am

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I think I'm v mildly offended by being called a stooge, but the people that I'm being lumped together with are all right, so no harm no foul
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Post Post #1160 (ISO) » Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:20 am

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Also scum can leave their hiding once they see pressure relieving on them
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Post Post #1161 (ISO) » Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:21 am

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In post 1159, DrDolittle wrote:I think I'm v mildly offended by being called a stooge, but the people that I'm being lumped together with are all right, so no harm no foul
Yep, likely two scum and another stooge
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Post Post #1162 (ISO) » Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:22 am

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VOTE: aaron
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Post Post #1163 (ISO) » Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:24 am

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SS 1150 basically echos my thoughts
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Post Post #1164 (ISO) » Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:28 am

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Hearing from Menal, Ico, and Pretentious would be nice now
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Post Post #1165 (ISO) » Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:29 am

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And No SS, I dont feel like telling you why those three specifically.

It should be obvious
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Post Post #1166 (ISO) » Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:30 am

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In post 1147, Creature wrote:
In post 1143, GuiltyLion wrote:
In post 1127, GuiltyLion wrote:
In post 1124, Creature wrote:The tell is pretty obvious:

If it's a player I can immediately tell it's town and I can't tell it's town this game in any way, it means it's just scum
can you link me to the games where you could immediately tell AF was town?
Creature you should answer this because it will give your read on AF a lot more validity if we can see that there are immediately noticeable differences in AF's play
I have this:
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=80540

I had one other game in mind but can't link it rn
hm, I'm looking at the dual-ISO in your game. It's a good one to bring up since Datisi/Menalque were in it as well and I'd love to hear their thoughts on your point here. I'm just skimming at a high level right now but I'm not sure it's slam-dunk AF looks different in this game.

I will say he does seem a bit more proactively involved in interacting with more players outside of just a handful like I get the sense from him here, but that may be a function of 9p vs 14p since I know I definitely play those sizes differently, or even just availability in terms of RL time.

This post strikes me as interesting because he's scumreading Claim for hopping onto a wagon "without an original thought" which is (again) a terrible reason to scumread somebody but not all that different from his push on me here?

can you say why you think his game here is significantly different?

I also didn't find evidence that you especially obvtownread him in that game - you didn't push him or scumread him, but you did call one of his posts fake and the closest you gave to a townread was saying another post was "probably" genuine.
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Post Post #1167 (ISO) » Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:35 am

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In post 408, AaronFrost wrote:
In post 383, Salamence20 wrote:
In post 314, AaronFrost wrote:
In post 307, Salamence20 wrote:Aarons relationship with Creature will tell me more about his progression on creature.
Not entirely sure what you mean by my relationship with Creature. Like are you talking about in the context of this game or do you want to know my past experience playing with him?
Past expierence Obviously.
One game with him in the newbie queue.
Wait.
In post 1123, Creature wrote:He has been my pet scumread the entire game

I never actually townread him although he's quite obvious as town

Whenever I saw him posting it seemed to scream scum


Now his vote on me just seals it

He's just scum
Is one game (and a newbie one at that) good enough for creature to declare AF as scum?
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Post Post #1168 (ISO) » Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:36 am

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It's not just one game, but I can't tell it.
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Post Post #1169 (ISO) » Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:36 am

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I don't know of how much help I'll be with regards to 1949, chief. I was scum that game, and Aaron was my winning mislynch. I spent exactly zero effort thinking about how I would've been reading him if I was Town, the only thing on my mind was how to set him up as the fall guy in f3 in case the 5p lylo 1v1 between the real Cop and my partner failed.
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Post Post #1170 (ISO) » Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:37 am

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I didn't notice it at first.
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Post Post #1171 (ISO) » Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:39 am

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In post 1123, Creature wrote:I never actually townread him although he's quite obvious as town
I am? People usually scumread me when I'm town.

I think extremely disingenuous to bring up my playstyle from when I was a newbie because I feel my playstyle has grown since then, (and is still growing). And you were never townreading me in that game from what I remember, or at least weren't vocal about it.

SS's sheep on Creature's weak meta case is awful.
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Post Post #1172 (ISO) » Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:41 am

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In post 1171, AaronFrost wrote:SS's sheep on Creature's weak meta case is awful.
Elaborate.
Shame on a martyr claiming friends
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Post Post #1173 (ISO) » Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:42 am

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I also thought it was bad but Ill deal with that tomorrow
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Post Post #1174 (ISO) » Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:44 am

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In post 1168, Creature wrote:It's not just one game, but I can't tell it.
So was aaron lying? Are you an alt of someone whos been in games with aaron?

What?
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