Open 769: Venrob's PYP X/Y (Town Wins)

[Espeonage]

Yeah so I think if Xayah is day 1 Lynch we would have been favoured.

The issue was that without multitasking and a scum day day 1, we were shot in a foot no matter what we did come massclaim. If Billy was able to get even one night all the numbers would be better.

So every decision we made was made knowing we had to explain no actions or get away with fake claims.

We got unlucky and made bad decisions and a few mistakes but credit to town for playing well enough to not let us get away with it. The scum pt has a lot of discussion that should explain wy we did p much everything we did.
Our issues:
1. Failed at fake bussing Billy day 1.
2. Killed cop night 1, who was dying to the PGO anyway.
3. Tried to kill who we thoughts was UB and ended up with a no kill.
4. Made a bad fake claim last minute mid mass claim bc we had imperfect information.

Things we did well. Work out what SS's role was before it claim claimed along with which abilities had been used.

All that said I think that was winnable if we nailed the fake claim on skitter.

I think what I am trying to say is that both sides of this game played well with what they were given. I think the setup should be multitasking, but that is the only thing I would change. I think day talk is less strong but possibly too strong with multitasking. That is the only change I would make to the setup.

[Espeonage]

Also sorry ducky. We really lent in to posturing you as town leader to try and undermine Luca until we could spend a kill there.

[Something_Smart]

2. Killed cop night 1, who was dying to the PGO anyway.

Wait was he? It's not listed in the night actions.

[TheWizard]

Flubbernugget never used his PGO ability.

[rb]

why did scum not kill luca N1 or N2 is what really confuses me

he was never getting lynched, ever

[Espeonage]

It was to do with PRs.

Also given it was myself and skitter we felt that we could potentially get anyone lynched who wasn't mechanically lynched.

Basically we took a gamble on what we thought was a crumb in day 2 which honestly wrecked our game. Based entirely on day play Luca would have been n2 kill if we had not gone for the swing play.

[Espeonage]

mechanically cleared*

[rb]

overconfidence is the most dangerous form of carelessness

[rb]

that's today's condescending star wars quote

[the worst]

Also sorry ducky. We really lent in to posturing you as town leader to try and undermine Luca until we could spend a kill there.

it's ok my friend
my incompetence far outweighed your posturing; luca's towniness shone through radiantly

[Espeonage]

... you raise a good point, well done
SS claiming last is fine if he's comfortable his crumb is great

please continue as you were. Sirfetched and skitter will be the sanity officers while i'm away

We felt bad when you posted this.

[AaronFrost]

Am I the only one seeing Fetchd/skitter team right now? Like Fetchd blocking skitter is a bad move regardless of their alignment. UNLESS they're scum together and they're attempting to bus each other. Like I think Fetchd is smart enough to know that skitter's not going to be doing the kill after yesterday and that he's better off going for one of the VT claims.

And why exactly did skitter check Fetchd? There were better slots to check in my opinion.

The fact that they targeted each other does not feel like a coincidence to me.

Obligatory self-praise moment, I just want to point out that I called this on like Day 4.

[the worst]

... you raise a good point, well done
SS claiming last is fine if he's comfortable his crumb is great

please continue as you were. Sirfetched and skitter will be the sanity officers while i'm away

We felt bad when you posted this.

hahaha you guys were just really vocal!!

[the worst]

Aaron you were fabulous.

[Luca Blight]

Just a few thoughts off the top of my head:

I thought Skitter was actually townier in this game than in our past game where she had a relatively easy scum win. Her distancing with Billy D1 was really good.

Fetchd had a confident vibe which naturally translates as townie, but I became suspicious of him when he started to try to rush the lynches through after the mass-claim.

I was impressed with Kerset’s play from D2 onwards. A big improvement from their D1 play imo.

Rb was really good D1 and one of the only players showing urgency, just a shame he was also a strong pr.

Credit to Frost for calling the Skitter/Fetchd partnership. I had similar thoughts myself, but started to think Skitter might be Town again after reviewing her interactions with Billy.

[Adorable]

On day 2 when I joined the game I was still catching up and on day 3 when I was all caught up I scum read Skitter all the way till the end. I scum read Skitter correctly and funnily one of my top scum read lasted till the last day since I wanted her lynched after Flub.

[the worst]

Nice work Wooper on the moral support

Thx I try

[the worst]

On day 2 when I joined the game I was still catching up and on day 3 when I was all caught up I scum read Skitter all the way till the end. I scum read Skitter correctly and funnily one of my top scum read lasted till the last day since I wanted her lynched after Flub.

you were real good actually. I thought your pred was kinda fishy but once you posted it just wore off. You realistically didn't need to be copped, Luca was just obvtown and we COULD cop you

[Luca Blight]

Wooper, around the time of the mass-claim you were making yourself really easy to read as Town. After the Fetchd lynch you seemed to become really despondent, which is why I switched my view on you. It’s similar to why I SR Nom D2; she seemed really negative after the Billy lynch and it didn’t seem to match the gamestate as Town. I appreciate that you were able to read me correctly throughout

[the worst]

Hahaha thanks! I totally understood the reasons for the scumreads (I did get a little flustered that Kerset was so tunnelled they started to disbelieve my role; I thought that was really well crumbed)


I do think if we weren't in the situation we were in, I wouldn't have been lynched before skitter. It made a lot of sense to lynch me in order to snooker the last scum

[AaronFrost]

Aaron you were fabulous.

<3

[rb]

one day i won't be NK'd day1

im bad at the game dont kill me

[Kerset]

Aaron you were fabulous.

<3

It was good move that you soft claimed strong role on D2. It prevented wooper, from killing you and wasn't enough for scum to hunt you as cop.

[Kerset]

Duck don't you want to tell anything to poor xaya?

[Xayah]

I like to think getting shot in the face helped with our wincon