Newbie 1972 | Game Over

[Creature]

UNVOTE:

[geraintm]

Ok, i've goen through Nacl's posts as they are so close to getting lynched.
I don't see any strong reason to think they are mafia. to me, none of their posts seem expecialyl bad.
I don't think we have caught scum, i think they'd be a stronger counter wagon going on trying to save them if we had. I am not going to vote for them.

I have to admit this post does not help my read on you

at all

i am not reading anyone expecially strongly as scum, i wanted to lynch thomth when i placed my vote there and have not seen any better person to switch to.

why did you underline at all?

I haven't ever played a game with a freindly neighbour in before....
it is not going to make me wwant to vote for them, i can say that

[Uncrowned]

Just did a read through of the game again and decided to jot down stuff that I noticed from every slot. Read list to follow.

Creature: Bursts of activity, tonally appears town with the “stream of consciousness” posting style imo. Had early reads on one of Arkias/LDog/NaCl being scummy, which I agree with as I look back through these first few pages. Like his take of NaCl being laid back and Arkias wanting to avoid involvement with L-1 TW wagon. I wasn’t really a fan of Post 276 and the one underneath it but as TW said, it could just be me looking at his quirks and personality rather than his actual content, which I think has been fine.

Geraintm: Pressure and questioning of Thomth seemed more genuine than Arkias’, hasn’t done a whole lot to swing me either way but he’s probably closer to town than scum. Still null for me though. I wish there was a bit more production here, I don’t feel like Gerain is scum but I also don’t feel like he’s necessarily pushing to gather reads or progress the game himself. Mostly just seeing a lot of disagreement from him in terms of who is being pushed at the time. Demoralized from the Thomth replacement and the following Alexcellent replacement maybe, since Alex is seeming pretty town imo.

Thomth/Alexcellent: Voted TW to L-1 on P2. Aggressive. Casual tonally, no obvious tells that he cares about how people perceived him. Odd posting style that I’m not the best at dealing with, but I doubt Thomth is scum here. I’m pretty convinced this slot is town, especially given Alexcellent’s entry. I agree with his points on NaCl and he’s been picking out good posts to ask questions about. Logical and reasonable.

Arkias: Joined counter-wagon on me start of game, seemed a little shady. “I want to know more about Uncrowned” without giving specifics about what posts of mine triggered him, or asking particular questions to drive forward conversation. Seemed like an entirely forced read on me. Also seemed pretty invested at one stage in targeting Thomth, who I’m thinking Arkias might’ve seen as an easy mislynch target at the time. He did retract this later on.

LDog: Shaded Thomth for early L-1 vote. Didn’t seem to want to be involved in an early wagon. Got frustrated with NaCl’s read on him and for voting him. A bit jumpy? Later on, Post 344 is a bit passive for my liking. Why not initiate your own line of questioning on Zoomie than just “waiting to see what TW gets from you”. Very meh. Pushes haven't been all that great and seems content to focus on whoever seems lynchable at the time (Thomth, NaCl, namely).

Faustiv/Zoomie: Bad entry by Faustiv followed by the naked vote. Gave no indication of having read the game besides saying he did and then not backing up his vote at all. Zoomie hasn’t really done much to ping me either way. I feel like they’re being a little sheepy but I’m not really sure that’s a great indicator for me to go off of. Something to note, at least.

The Worst: Fabricated push at start of game on me, appeared to be a method of sorting. Playing his usual style, one of the more active sorters in the game and prodding with questions. Nothing out of the ordinary for him, I feel. The initial phase of the game did ping me weirdly and I still have my reservations, I don’t feel like I can accurately gauge TW’s alignment but I FEEL like he’s town. One thing I like is that when someone says they’re town reading another person, he prods for the explanation behind it. Feels like attempts at progressing the game and catching people out who may have poor reasoning.

NaCl: Opened up by voting on me, even though he said he didn’t like TW at the beginning. I like Creature’s take on him seeming a bit… TOO collected, I guess? Some of his reads have been solid though, and I tend to agree with them. Post 213 for instance is one I find decent. As I’ve already been through, I didn’t really like his read list on Post 356 but to summarize, I thought the positioning of most slots was FINE but he had way too many open possibilities, seemed to me like a setup to keep him safe no matter which way the game went in terms of wagons and conflicts.

[Uncrowned]

{Uncrowned}

{Alexcellent, The Worst}

{Creature}

{Geraintm, Zoomie}

{Arkias, NaCl}

{LDog}

I'm pretty convinced there's scum within these 3, although I find it hard to see LDog being a team with NaCl. Will need to look back to see any evidence of him and Arkias being a possible connection. Tbh though I've found it more confusing to look for teams during D1 so I'm happy with this list as is.

[LoserdudeOG]

@Ldog

The context in which you were referring to yourself in 3rd person is different from your examples. That was more in a friendly/non-serious way, when they're making a list of their opinions on everyone. But when you're only talking about a subset of people, I've never seen anyone go refer to themselves like that.

If talking about myself in the third person is what’s causing you to have a SR on me I really don’t know what to say to that.

[LoserdudeOG]

I’ll put my vote on Arkais unless someone wants to counterclaim. In my last game we saved counterclaiming for day 2 tho. Idk if y’all want to do it that way or not, I’ll follow the vets decision on that. VOTE: Arkais

[Creature]

Fine, I'm the FN.

[Uncrowned]

I didn't see that claim by NaCl lol

Is that a CC Creature?

[Creature]

No, I don't counterclaim

[Uncrowned]

If there was anyone to make a counter claim, I'd probably make it now. Imho I think one scum being sacrificed for a PR is a net positive for town, at least in this particular setup.

1 scum against 6 townies including one PR still alive on towns side sounds like terrible odds to me for scum

[geraintm]

I didn't see that claim by NaCl lol

Is that a CC Creature?

your post makes more sense now that you didnt see the claim. beause i was really confused by your reads....

[Uncrowned]

yeah lol i saw creature quote it and i was like "wtf when did that happen"

literally happened 4 posts before my big fancy reads list smh

[the worst]

VOTE: Arkias

@NaCl we need you to shoot at the most lynchable people in the game. I'd suggest {LdOG, Arkias, zoomie}. DO NOT TARGET SOMEONE WHO IS STRONGLY TOWNREAD

State a pool of two targets before EoD and pick one of them

[Uncrowned]

What do you mean by shoot? Do you just mean target?

[the worst]

ya

[NaCl]

VOTE: Arkias

@NaCl we need you to shoot at the most lynchable people in the game. I'd suggest {LdOG, Arkias, zoomie}. DO NOT TARGET SOMEONE WHO IS STRONGLY TOWNREAD

State a pool of two targets before EoD and pick one of them

Wait, why is that? Is it because someone who's more townread is likely to get killed?

[the worst]

Yup!

[the worst]

Sorry if you are indeed a town fn and I missed tells btw
I've been quite good at protecting tprs for a while : /

[Uncrowned]

VOTE: Arkias

I'd honestly prefer LDog be the lynch, but I don't think that's something that'll get agreed upon in this short of a time frame.

[Zoomie8432]

Now that we got you cleared up, Ark is another strong issue with us. I'll get to why I voted on him later. Gotta head to school. VOTE: Ark

[Alexcellent]

If there was anyone to make a counter claim, I'd probably make it now. Imho I think one scum being sacrificed for a PR is a net positive for town, at least in this particular setup.

1 scum against 6 townies including one PR still alive on towns side sounds like terrible odds to me for scum

I agree with this.

VOTE: Arkias

@NaCl we need you to shoot at the most lynchable people in the game. I'd suggest {LdOG, Arkias, zoomie}. DO NOT TARGET SOMEONE WHO IS STRONGLY TOWNREAD

State a pool of two targets before EoD and pick one of them

I agree with this.

P-Edit: OOF, thank god for post review, I was literally going to vote Arkias in this post. I believe with Uncr and Zoomie that makes Arkias at L-1.

[Uncrowned]

Yep that's an L-1

...was that way too fast for it not to be a wagon with scum on it?

[NaCl]

@TW
Nah, it's not like I crumbed, since I'm supposed to be confirmable anyways. I've actually just been pretty busy for most of the week and couldn't get into it.

I guess I'll go with Ldog and Arkias, but I'm still not understanding the point of saying my pool rather than just keeping quiet and aiming for someone who's unlikely to eat the NK instead of saying it out loud.

[Alexcellent]

Yeah I dunno... Kinda wanna claim intent to hammer, although I think they're on VLA at the moment anyway. It does seem a bit sudden. Will wait for them to return and catch up.

[Alexcellent]

@TW
Nah, it's not like I crumbed, since I'm supposed to be confirmable anyways. I've actually just been pretty busy for most of the week and couldn't get into it.

I guess I'll go with Ldog and Arkias, but I'm still not understanding the point of saying my pool rather than just keeping quiet and aiming for someone who's unlikely to eat the NK instead of saying it out loud.

Yeah I think don't tell anyone who you're planning on targeting, but just go for whoever you think will probably still be here on D2.