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[ArthurConyl]

Misquoted^

I need more from Arthur and ETL.
Gyro slot probably town.
Farren probably town.
Pp hard to say but I'm going with town.

Norman still hasn't posted.
Phoenix is a current scumread.

I thought Gyro and ETL were suss, but why do you think Ph0enix is scummy? Did I miss a post?

[CheekyTeeky]

No, I'm waiting for him to post before explaining.

[Farren]

VOTE: ArthurConyl

[CheekyTeeky]

VOTE: ArthurConyl

[ArthurConyl]

VOTE: ArthurConyl

VOTE: ArthurConyl

Is there a reason you two randomly voted for me?

[CheekyTeeky]

I believe you've neglected to answer some of Farren's questions. I'm not worried about that, what concerns me is that you may be playing the shy newbie card as scum which I've seen before.

There seems to be a tone mismatch between your opening post 37 and post 96 which I still can't reconcile.
In 37, your tone was timid and seems to conveniently excuse you from contributing anything that can be judged.
You follow that with a couple of unsure commentary posts before a big tone change in 96 where you were assertive and sure of your vote.
These descrepancies make me wonder if the confused newness is genuine or if it's a clever disguise to hide behind as scum.

[ArthurConyl]

Read the Joined: December 06, 2019 under my name. Do you think I'd make an alt just to pretend to be a newbie? Yes I was unsure at the start because I was waiting for you guys to post to see how everything worked, but after a while I pretty much understood things. Besides my vote for ETL was merely because she was suspicious. I just thought her first post was off. That's hardly being "assertive." I'm far from being sure that she's scum/town. I've played enough to know that voting doesn't mean you're sure, it just means you find them suss or want to question them.

[ArthurConyl]

Also Farren, have I neglected some of your questions? If I have please repost them.

[CheekyTeeky]

Excellent.

VOTE: ETL

[ArthurConyl]

Excellent.

VOTE: ETL

Very tricky, I should've known. Still leaves the question of why:

VOTE: ArthurConyl

Farren voted for me?

[Farren]

VOTE: ArthurConyl

VOTE: ArthurConyl

Is there a reason you two randomly voted for me?

I believe you've neglected to answer some of Farren's questions.

This is correct.

Arthur: any townreads?

[ArthurConyl]

Arthur: any townreads?

• 1) Gyro Zeppeli: suspicious
  2) Ph0enix: ?
  3) ArthurConyl: town
  4) Farren: suspicious
  5) Nomanssky101: ? (inactive)
  6) chazary1: Probably town
  7) EspeciallyTheLies (SE): suspicious
  8) CheekyTeeky (SE): Probably town
  9) PenguinPower (SE): Probably town

VOTE: ArthurConyl

Cheeky's explained her reasoning for voting me but what's yours? It seems a bit weird that both of you would vote me at once, without any reasons given.

[CheekyTeeky]

I can help to think behind the surface of actions like "why would either alignment do x or say x"

Do you think it's more like that scum or town naked vote and why would either alignment do that?
Has the person naked voting used that vote to sort players or are they just cruising a long?
Which intent would be more towny or scummy?

[Farren]

Sorry, thought my earlier explanation was clear - because you didn't answer my question.

Which no longer applies, so:

UNVOTE: ArthurConyl

Why the townread on chazary?

[ArthurConyl]

Sorry, thought my earlier explanation was clear - because you didn't answer my question.

Which no longer applies, so:

UNVOTE: ArthurConyl

Why the townread on chazary?

Chazary hasn't done anything to scummy so far. In his first post he voted for me and I don't think scum would be the first voter. He stated that he was just doing it so everyone would have a vote. Then he said that because it was controversial he switched his vote to Penguin. Weird play but not scum-indicative.

[Farren]

Chazary hasn't done anything to scummy so far.

Can you talk about the difference between your Ph0enix "?" read and your chazary townread - in light of what I've quoted above?

[Plotinus]

Official Vote Count 1.06

Ama Dablam, Nepal

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Lynching

With 9 votes in play, it takes 5 to lynch.

EspeciallyTheLies

(3): CheekyTeeky, ArthurConyl, Gyro Zeppeli

Gyro Zeppeli

(2): PenguinPower, Farren

CheekyTeeky

(1): EspeciallyTheLies

Not Voting

(3): Ph0enix, Nomanssky101, chazary

Deadline:

(expired on 2019-12-21 08:00:00).

Mod notes:

Gyro Zeppeli is being replaced.

Nomanssky101 has not confirmed in time and is being replaced.

EspeciallyThe Lies has been prodded and has (expired on 2019-12-14 19:48:00) to post before I start looking for a replacement because the timer runs slower on weekends.[/area]

[EspeciallyTheLies]

prod received

sorry - it's been chaos at work, which is where I do the majority of my posting. I've read nothing after the first 2 pages; but i will set aside some time to do so this afternoon. normally i can post at least once a day.

[chazary]

I can help to think behind the surface of actions like "why would either alignment do x or say x"

Do you think it's more like that scum or town naked vote and why would either alignment do that?
Has the person naked voting used that vote to sort players or are they just cruising a long?
Which intent would be more towny or scummy?

It might be self-explanatory but just to be sure, what do you mean by naked voting? My vocabulary is lacking. Voting with no reasoning? Also who exactly are you accusing of naked voting?

[PenguinPower]

I feel like Gyro was pretty lynchbaity. Phoenix has become a greater concern which I'll show my working for soon.

Lynchbaity doesn't necessarily mean town.

[PenguinPower]

Well Gyro just voted ETL and also just got banned and you were the only one I could tell still didn't have a vote on you atm. It really was just random. Just trying to get involved in the scheming and whatnot.

Why choose to vote for someone who doesn't have any votes on them? How does that get you involved in the scheming?

Like you guys were saying just to press them for responses. Looking back Pp was pretty responsive anyway but I guess I just wanted to see his reaction to being voted for since he didn't have any at the time. But also like I said I think I was confused by the way the votes were distributed so maybe im not making sense.

And, what did you get from my reaction?

[PenguinPower]

Do you think I'd make an alt just to pretend to be a newbie?

I wouldn't recommend doing this considering I check all accounts

[PenguinPower]

It might be self-explanatory but just to be sure, what do you mean by naked voting? My vocabulary is lacking. Voting with no reasoning? Also who exactly are you accusing of naked voting?

It's self explanatory.

VOTE: chazary

is a naked vote

VOTE: Gyro
because of my previously mentioned suspicions which were outlined in post 130

Is not a naked vote.

[PenguinPower]

I like Arthur for town.

[chazary]

And, what did you get from my reaction?

Well, although you did ask why I voted for you, you also followed that by asking why I didn't vote for ETL or Gyro, both of which had votes already, despite having already suggested that I was voting randomly for people who weren't voted for yet.

Could be scummy; you're trying to avoid my actual reasoning, albeit there was none, by putting the focus on two people, one of which was just banned and the other having only replied once and never again.

Could also be townie; You don't see any reason to defend yourself because quite frankly you hadn't really done anything scummy up until that point. And again, my vote was nonsensical to begin with so you didn't really have anything to defend yourself over.