Newbie 1971 [Game Over!]

[GuiltyLion]

also it's a no-lynch if nobody hits majority. It'd be better to lynch anybody than to hit no-lynch. But at this point we already have effectively one claim from Non Imh so it's safe to default to lynching him if no other lynch is possible

@GBJ I recognize you're in a difficult position being the only current counter wagon to Non Imh but I don't think running Map Wolf up will end well

[GayBabyJailor]

idk dude, ill be here in 2 hours to see what happens

[Kanna]

I'll be around too and will change my vote if necessary. Map is still my choice for now.

[the worst]

vote count 1.17

Map Wolf (2) : Kanna, GayBabyJailor
Kanna (0) :
GayBabyJailor (3) : GuiltyLion, Map Wolf, Uncrowned
Uncrowned (0) :
Non lmh (3) : Billy Pilgrim, Menalque, Non lmh
Billy Pilgrim (0) :
GuiltyLion (0) :
Menalque (0) :
skitter30 (0) :

not voting: skitter30

with 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch.

day one will end automatically in (expired on 2019-12-14 11:30:00) or sooner if a lynch is achieved by majority.


mod notes:
- skitter30 v/la weekends
- quack

[GuiltyLion]

where the heck is Menalque

[Billy Pilgrim]

Idk. Look, a lynch needs to happen. I didn't want GBJ, but if non isnt gonna happen. I will go there at deadline to force it through. Look, this game state feels weird. Theres 2 people at 3, what does that mean wrt where scum would be on these wagons?

[GuiltyLion]

IMO it means either GBJ is scum and there are enough townies + scum partner who don't want to vote him
(this is possible for Non Imh too but since he's self-voting it takes fewer votes to get him lynched so I count it as less likely)

or both wagons are town and scum aren't trying very hard to make a lynch on either of them happen. I don't think it tells us much about where scum are at the moment because they could either be voteparking or just lurking it out away from thread.

the weird things about the game state are:
a) Kanna doesn't want either lynch and is still trying to go for a third option at deadline
b) skitter isn't voting anywhere
c) now

both

GBJ and Non Imh are not voting their main counter wagon

[GuiltyLion]

I think maybe the best you can say is it's probably more likely that both scum aren't on the same wagon right now

[GuiltyLion]

unless it's Kanna/GBJ, but I think they just lynch Non Imh in that world? maybe they got scared by my defending him

[GayBabyJailor]

should i just go back on non at this point?

[GuiltyLion]

it'd be best for town if you do that yeah, I really don't think Map Wolf is gonna happen and we should force Kanna/skit to commit to one of these two options

[GuiltyLion]

to clarify my last few posts I don't think it's inherently scummy that skit isn't on either wagon since she's V/LA and also indicated already that she'd prefer Non Imh, I'm not trying to shade her here, but it does bork the game state regardless since nobody on either wagon wants to move right now or is here to move right now

[GayBabyJailor]

oof
VOTE: non imh

[Kanna]

From my POV, I think Map/Mena/Unc are the parkers that are locking us in right now. I'm about to go out soon so I think I'll vote Non if nothing changes by the time I go out.

[Kanna]

Oh got ninja'd

[GuiltyLion]

this is where my reads are at EOD1

{Uncrowned, Map Wolf, Non Imh}
{Skitter, Menalque}
{Billy, Kanna, GBJ}

top tier is slots I'm most confident are town. Skitter/Menalque are in a zone where I think general odds are good that they're town and I wouldn't be chasing to flip them before anyone in my bottom tier, but I wouldn't bet the game on them being town. Billy/Kanna/GBJ I think has at least one scum and potentially both.

It should be noted that some of these reads have specific reasoning for them that could change the whole gamestate view wildly based on some underlying mechanics stuff that I don't want to explain right now, so don't take it as absolute gospel if I'm NK'd, but definitely need sorting in that bottom tier tomorrow if we don't get a GBJ flip today.

[Menalque]

I’m exhausted and not really here

Going to sleep in a moment

Not sold on non scum but he’s policyable in a micro and if we miss twice I don’t trust myself to sort there in lylo so I’d rather remove the risk

If he does flip town I think gbj is scum

[Menalque]

Feel better about skitt being town from talking to her yesterday or whenever it was

This is going to sound WIFOMy now but if I die it’s a good reason to at least double check skitter, although now that I’ve sad this its not a good reason to hard scumresd her

[Kanna]

I'm honestly confused why GBJ is at the bottom of everyone's lists.

[Menalque]

Also think GL has moved up in my readslist because he’s just being straight up pro town in a way scum doesn’t have any motivation to be

Prob my top TR now

[GuiltyLion]

Kanna what has GBJ done this game that is less likely or impossible to come from scum that makes you townread him? Again, I just played with him as town in 1965 River and he feels a lot more timid and less game-solvy here in this game. I'm getting more "trying to figure this out" pings from almost everyone else.

[Menalque]

Eh actually

VOTE: gbj

[Kanna]

Tone feels townie, did not vote his counterwagon and the fact that his wagon picked up speed really fast suggests to me he was targeted by scum. Like, I don't see a wagon like that forming on scum.

[Menalque]

Time to put ur money where ur mouth is billy

[Kanna]

Also, IMO, I get the feeling that he's just busy irl, not necessarily not game solving.