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Post Post #525 (ISO) » Fri Dec 13, 2019 5:24 pm

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In post 513, Uncrowned wrote:I'm actually going to post it now since I'm about to go to bed, and then I've got work in the morning so I may not be on in time for this to be relevant.

I'm concerned about the fact that Zoomie hasn't said a word in regards to his reads or thoughts on myself, LDog or The Worst, and is now saying he thinks there's scum on this wagon. The progression to me doesn't make much sense, especially since he thinks Arkias is the one to be worried about.

I also don't like that he naturally went for the least townread player out of the three options he had (I'm assuming here that myself/TW are in general viewed as more townie than LDog). Kind of feels like him sheeping and not wanting to go against players who are in a more stable position.
I agree with this quite a bit. Especially if Arkias flips town.

I'm kind of okay with lynching Arkias, but right not I would prefer Geraintm and Zoomie is also fine with me. I'm not really that convinced on Ldog anymore. At this point I'm looking back at Arkias and I can't really feel anything one way or the other, it's more inactive than I'd initially thought.

My suspicions of Geraintm kind of come from his defense of me. He'd never really commented on me before, and then he goes and gives a kind of vague defense of me when I'm close to being lynched, but not anything really solid to try and change things. And he votes on Thomth to pile pressure and doesn't really follow up afterwards, and it somehow becomes a scumread. Like, I don't think he's expressed an opinion on a player in this game that's particularly strong, and of his few opinions, it's been scattered shade and not really townreading people. And I think that this game has at least 2 slots that are easy to townread.

VOTE: Geraintm
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Post Post #526 (ISO) » Fri Dec 13, 2019 10:39 pm

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Looking at the ISO, it's hard to disagree with your points. I wrote him off as null and wanted to see if anything would change... but there is a lack of reads there from him that could've been made at this point. There are multiple slots who have all dropped readable content.

The treatment he gave the Thomth slot is something he hasn't come close to replicating with anyone else yet. It's quite noticeable. I think we've let that slot fly under the radar a bit too much.

We have a lot of options right now and they're confusing me. I don't like LDog much, but I dislike Zoomie saying he could be scum on our wagon. Geraintm is now a point of interest for me and think you could be onto something. Arkias is still a lynch I'm fine with, but the speed of the wagon is making me paranoid and again, that Zoomie thing.

I need to reevaluate all of these above slots.
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Post Post #527 (ISO) » Sat Dec 14, 2019 1:08 am

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In post 504, Uncrowned wrote:TW any concern with how quickly the wagon progressed or no?

I'm somewhat concerned because both Zoomie/LDog are on it which are the slots I'm probably least comfortable with rn outside of Arkias himself
basically ditto - don't think it's entirely maliciously motivated definitely but there's sketch slots on it but one of them was the first vote on it so

:shrug: I guess mildly; could go zoomie off this but my motivation to lynch zoomie is pretty moderate otherwise
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Post Post #528 (ISO) » Sat Dec 14, 2019 1:09 am

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In post 512, Uncrowned wrote:TW/Alexcellent/Creature

Do any of you have an opinion about the above post? I know I'm thinking something right now about it that's a bit concerning.
Also yeah generally if you assume there's scum on a flashwagon it's pretty abstract to just assume it's the guy who's been voting the guy you're now voting the entire time
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Post Post #529 (ISO) » Sat Dec 14, 2019 1:12 am

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@NaCl from Gerrain that's either a good read or a pocket attempt. I don't really have a read on which one yet except that I didn't agree with it at the time.

I'm like just pretty null on gerrain and I don't think we're really gonna get great alignment indicators from him on day one

VOTE: zoomie feels better rn outside of general guilt for voting someone inexperienced
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Post Post #530 (ISO) » Sat Dec 14, 2019 1:24 am

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In post 528, the worst wrote:
In post 512, Uncrowned wrote:TW/Alexcellent/Creature

Do any of you have an opinion about the above post? I know I'm thinking something right now about it that's a bit concerning.
Also yeah generally if you assume there's scum on a flashwagon it's pretty abstract to just assume it's the guy who's been voting the guy you're now voting the entire time
Didn't you say earlier you thought this was NAI?
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Post Post #531 (ISO) » Sat Dec 14, 2019 1:25 am

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In post 516, the worst wrote:Alexc's response is pretty much where I'm at - not a town indicator but kinda just nai

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Post Post #532 (ISO) » Sat Dec 14, 2019 2:11 am

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In post 523, the worst wrote:Can you throw me a super quick summary of your reads rn? Tiered?

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Weak town
Null
Weak scum
Scumreads

^^ something like that
You got it, TW!

TW/Uncrown
AlexC/NaCl
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Ark/Gerain
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Post Post #533 (ISO) » Sat Dec 14, 2019 2:11 am

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NaCl is like that since we didn't counter his FN claim at all, so it is making sense to me on that part that he may be FN, he may be not. Not enough to put him on strong town however.
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Post Post #534 (ISO) » Sat Dec 14, 2019 2:13 am

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I had to balance some stuff out, since of how everything went with it. I will update this when Ark gets a new person, but it depends on personality.
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Post Post #535 (ISO) » Sat Dec 14, 2019 2:50 am

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In post 532, Zoomie8432 wrote:
In post 523, the worst wrote:Can you throw me a super quick summary of your reads rn? Tiered?

Townreads
Weak town
Null
Weak scum
Scumreads

^^ something like that
You got it, TW!

TW/Uncrown
AlexC/NaCl
Ldog
Ark/Gerain
None
Where's Creature in your reads Zoomie?
What do you think of Gerain? No strong scum readS?
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Post Post #536 (ISO) » Sat Dec 14, 2019 3:00 am

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Oh. My bad. I would put creature at the heavy townread right now, but it may change to light townread in the future. No strong scumreads are since of how I see it. I may have some changes in the future.
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Post Post #537 (ISO) » Sat Dec 14, 2019 3:06 am

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Vote Count 1.20
Arkias (3) ~
LoserdudeOG, Uncrowned, Zoomie8432

Alexcellent (1) ~
geraintm

Zoomie8432 (1) ~
the worst

geraintm (1) ~
NaCl

Not voting (3) ~
Arkias, Creature, Alexcellent,

With 9 alive it's 5 to lynch


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Post Post #538 (ISO) » Sat Dec 14, 2019 3:26 am

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Zoomie, can you explain your positioning of Gerain on your read list?
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Post Post #539 (ISO) » Sat Dec 14, 2019 3:27 am

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UNVOTE: Arkias

VOTE: Zoomie

The read list did little to ease my concerns about this slot.
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Post Post #540 (ISO) » Sat Dec 14, 2019 4:16 am

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Ah, Gerain. When we got NaCl to L-1, Gerain didn't really say anything that was really about him at that point. I'm a bit concerned why he just suddenly went to his defence, without anything before that point. May have had that hidden at that point, but I'm actually confused about that. I'm going to see why this went on.
UNVOTE: Ark
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Post Post #541 (ISO) » Sat Dec 14, 2019 4:18 am

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I'm having long reply times, since of how I want to focus on other games at times, but this one needs constant viewing to make sure that things dont go badly.
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Post Post #542 (ISO) » Sat Dec 14, 2019 4:31 am

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Post Post #543 (ISO) » Sat Dec 14, 2019 4:33 am

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So

Uncrowned, The Worst, Loser

There’s at least 1 scum in you.
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Post Post #544 (ISO) » Sat Dec 14, 2019 4:40 am

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Post Post #545 (ISO) » Sat Dec 14, 2019 4:46 am

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I actually wanna say one of Uncrowned/TW moreso than Loser. They’re conversations look T/S, but idk which is taking advantage of the other right now.

This is just my entry level surface thoughts.
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Post Post #546 (ISO) » Sat Dec 14, 2019 4:46 am

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In post 545, Flavor Leaf wrote:I actually wanna say one of Uncrowned/TW moreso than Loser. They’re conversations look T/S, but idk which is taking advantage of the other right now.

This is just my entry level surface thoughts.
Their* wtf lynch me right now for that
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Post Post #547 (ISO) » Sat Dec 14, 2019 4:52 am

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In post 367, Uncrowned wrote:also paranoid about his whole "one of Uncrowned/TW could be scum".

Whoa did i mind meld with someone already.

Reading backwards.
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Post Post #548 (ISO) » Sat Dec 14, 2019 4:55 am

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Post Post #549 (ISO) » Sat Dec 14, 2019 4:56 am

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