Newbie 1972 | Game Over

[Flavor Leaf]

I'm just seeing things from the slot that I don't like

This is like one of the first things I try to teach when I have a new player as a scum partner because it looks incredibly similar to pushing a genuine scum case on someone, and that’s kind of why I’m scum reading you.

I feel like you think you’re being pushed for the wrong reasons as scum too

[Karnage]

Vote Count 1.23

Zoomie8432 (2) ~

the worst, Uncrowned,

Uncrowned (2) ~

Flavor Leaf, LoserdudeOG

geraintm (2) ~

NaCl, Zoomie8432

Alexcellent (1) ~

geraintm

Not voting (2) ~

Creature, Alexcellent

With 9 alive it's 5 to lynch

Deadline: (expired on 2019-12-16 23:00:00)

Mod Notes

geraintm is V/LA on weekends

[Uncrowned]

I disagree. I've seen no real scumhunting from that slot. The biggest things to me right now isn't even the general sheeping, it's that:

-He said there's scum on the Arkias wagon when he hadn't brought up ANYTHING about the slots on the wagon prior, and then just called LDog scum. Again, I hate to keep repeating this, but note how he hasn't touched upon LDog again since he brought that up. It makes zero sense.

-He sheeped NaCl's Gerain read way too easily. He had only brought up Arkias as being scummy, but now all of a sudden sheeps the claimed TPR's scum read?

I don't see how this isn't scummy behavior, honestly.

[Uncrowned]

I'm just seeing things from the slot that I don't like

This is like one of the first things I try to teach when I have a new player as a scum partner because it looks incredibly similar to pushing a genuine scum case on someone, and that’s kind of why I’m scum reading you.

I feel like you think you’re being pushed for the wrong reasons as scum too

Well, yes. I feel like my push is being discredited just because I've laid out a decent case. It almost feels like if my case had holes in it or something, you'd say it's town because "oh, he can't be scum because his case isn't good"

Why does it feel like I have to play scummy and ignore all the scum like behavior I'm seeing to be viewed as a townie by you? Seems counter intuitive

[Uncrowned]

Interested to see some updated reads on this slot now that someone active has takrn it

[Alexcellent]

FL feels town. So many easy wagons to jump into this game and push if he's scum, yet he goes after Uncrowned. Seems like a hard wagon to push with so little time left.

Real hard time reading Zoomie. Could be newbscum or could be lynchbait. Zoomie is very sheepish, I don't know if that's coming from inexperienced town or just scum.

Lot of Uncrowned defense is very WIFOM and I don't like the interactions with Ldog. That part feels TvS although I'm not sold on which way around just yet. Gonna do some more thinking.

[Uncrowned]

Explain what you mean by my defense being wifom

I personally feel like the attack on me is a little ridiculous and the time being used on it is better spent figuring out zoomie, gerain or ldog

[the worst]

If FL is scum with literally zoomie then this is exactly the correct play (even down to choosing to push Uncrowned rather than a weaker more exposed more opportunistic slot)

That being said I like the way less vocal slots have been rising up since FL's intro (LdOG/Alexc) and when I ask myself why I'm not still susp of Uncrowned my mind is kinda like "he's posting well" and yeah idrk

I kinda want zoomie to tell me why they're townreading Uncrowned

[Flavor Leaf]

If FL is scum with literally zoomie then this is exactly the correct play (even down to choosing to push Uncrowned rather than a weaker more exposed more opportunistic slot)

That being said I like the way less vocal slots have been rising up since FL's intro (LdOG/Alexc) and when I ask myself why I'm not still susp of Uncrowned my mind is kinda like "he's posting well" and yeah idrk

I kinda want zoomie to tell me why they're townreading Uncrowned

Yeah, but I never do that with you and Creature in this game.

[Alexcellent]

What I'm more interested in is this:

Why would I be driving Scum!Zoomie so much if I "knew" he was town (assuming I'm scumcrowned here). If this is a mislynch, I put myself in a horrible position D2 and will likely be a major lynch candidate for D2 if I'm wrong on this, since I'm the only one really driving it.

Both of you feel like you're not really engaging with my points on the slot.

This post is super WIFOM

[LoserdudeOG]

I kinda want zoomie to tell me why they're townreading Uncrowned

I kind of feel like we wont be getting anything we want from Zoomie while they are so new to the Forum dealio. Idk what to do about it tbh. Like I want to ask questions, but I know I'm not going to get answers that help me with my reads on them or anyone else. idk.

[Flavor Leaf]

Uncrowned Scumflip townspews Zoomie

[LoserdudeOG]

Also don't understand what WIFOM is and how its significant? Like I looked it up and know what the acronym is but I don't get it...

[Flavor Leaf]

I expect Uncrowned’s partner to side with Uncrowned here because if Uncrowned goes down, Loser, myself, and Zoomie are spewed town’d unless you’re think Uncrowned and I are are theatring

[Alexcellent]

I think I'm fine with either a Zoomie or Uncrowned lynch, not sure which yet

[Flavor Leaf]

Also don't understand what WIFOM is and how its significant? Like I looked it up and know what the acronym is but I don't get it...

We’re playing a game where there are 2 cups. I’m gonna our poison in one of the. Without you seeing, then tell you I put poison in one of them.

Do you drink the one in front of me, or the one in front of you?

Also, I put the poison in the cup in front of me.

I’m not the type of person who’d lie about that, why would I?

[Uncrowned]

So now we're just assuming scumcrowned after no reasonable defense of zoomie has been made and he's still looking like the scummiest player in the game rn.

I cannot express my disappointment lmao

[Flavor Leaf]

Alex is a potential Uncrowned partner.

[LoserdudeOG]

Also don't understand what WIFOM is and how its significant? Like I looked it up and know what the acronym is but I don't get it...

We’re playing a game where there are 2 cups. I’m gonna our poison in one of the. Without you seeing, then tell you I put poison in one of them.

Do you drink the one in front of me, or the one in front of you?

Also, I put the poison in the cup in front of me.

I’m not the type of person who’d lie about that, why would I?

So you're me, what do you do...?

[Flavor Leaf]

But that’s a little weird considering Gera doesn’t pick up steam. Had I voted there, I think that would have been the lynch

[Flavor Leaf]

Also don't understand what WIFOM is and how its significant? Like I looked it up and know what the acronym is but I don't get it...

We’re playing a game where there are 2 cups. I’m gonna our poison in one of the. Without you seeing, then tell you I put poison in one of them.

Do you drink the one in front of me, or the one in front of you?

Also, I put the poison in the cup in front of me.

I’m not the type of person who’d lie about that, why would I?

So you're me, what do you do...?

Exactly

[Uncrowned]

Legitimately feel as though I'm being punished for being one of the only players to make an aggressive push in a phase where we NEED to decide on a lynch soon.

Paranoid me is starting to think FL maybe knows im town and zoomie is town and either way he can angle a push onto one of us D2 once the other flips town

Guess we wont know until zoomie flips though. Lynch please.

[Flavor Leaf]

Legitimately feel as though I'm being punished for being one of the only players to make an aggressive push in a phase where we NEED to decide on a lynch soon.

Paranoid me is starting to think FL maybe knows im town and zoomie is town and either way he can angle a push onto one of us D2 once the other flips town

Guess we wont know until zoomie flips though. Lynch please.

This is literally a setup post for after Zoomie flips to go after me tomorrow

[Uncrowned]

The best part about all this? There's been nothing against me except "you're going against an easy target" but no one can dispute the points I being up?

And if we're going down that route, let's keep in mind that both the Arkias slot and Gerain were very keen on a Thomth lynch. If I'm gonna go down for going for an easy "mislynch" (even tho this is probably scum zoomie) then let's remember the other slots that also did the same thing, shall we?

[Uncrowned]

FL you've literally been doing the exact same setup on me for how long now? Don't play victim when you've been trying to drive this incorrect lynch on me. What, do you expect me to 100% think you're town with how you've been driving this narrative?