Newbie 1972 | Game Over

[Alexcellent]

Ehhhhhhhhh ... I found Arkias scummy but I liked FL's entrance, 1v1 with Uncrowned is very interesting. I'm not familiar with FL, don't have meta with his scum or town play. I don't know if he's the lynch.

If FL were lynched and flipped scum, probably makes Zoomie his scum partner I guess and would make Uncrowned like 99% town. If FL flipped town I don't feel like I would get heaps out of that. But I dunno, I probably need to do more of a re-read of things.
I wanna hear more from Creature, Geraint and Zoomie.

[NaCl]

The only people I'm really okay with for a lynch today are Uncrowned, Geraintm, and Zoomie.

Zoomie is informational, I don't really want it or think it will work.
Uncrowned depends on his responses, I want to see what he thinks of things, I'm not that convinced yet.

Geraintm pretty much hasn't done anything all day beyond blindly tunneling Thomth and pretty much every criticism that applies to Zoomie feels like it's better suited here instead. He's tunnelling on Alexcellent/Thomth, but never actually doing anything to get his lynch through and doesn't have any conviction. And he isn't talking about any other slot. He's literally posted on me once, on Uncrowned once, and offered pretty much no thoughts on anyone else in the game.

I still think that's the best place to lynch to get scum.

[Flavor Leaf]

I’m not scum here.

And I was considering townUncrowned right before you came in, and you know I’m one of the biggest flip flippers on this site, and just because I scum read someone doesn’t mean I’m not gonna change my mind and figure it out.

The thing is, ducky, you know I have a history of replacing in and defending the main wagon. This happens a lot of times if i come in after replacing in.

The duck also has a history of pushing town me as scum, and i have a history of being able to catch scumDuck, maybe not immediately, but i bet my comment on him or uncrowned being scum was enough to make him want to push me for it.

[NaCl]

Alexcellent, why do you think that Zoomie would hop on the Arkias wagon as scum so quickly? My impression of him is that scum or town, he's not very experienced. I don't think he would have done that if they were scum together.

[Flavor Leaf]

@Loser - we may have to go Gera today. I’m getting cold feet on Uncrowned because Ducky’s making some scum plays.

[Uncrowned]

I don't think FL would be scum if Zoomie flips scum, just because of the speed of the Arkias wagon.

Woah it's almost like I've said this exact same thing before...

Plus look at Worst's wall and it's like... holy shit, people AGREE with me on Zoomie? Wow. It's almost like he's been acting a little scummy.

Sorry, just felt like being a little toxic.

[Flavor Leaf]

Gera flipping scum spews Alex and Zoomie as town too.

[Flavor Leaf]

I don't think FL would be scum if Zoomie flips scum, just because of the speed of the Arkias wagon.

Woah it's almost like I've said this exact same thing before...

Plus look at Worst's wall and it's like... holy shit, people AGREE with me on Zoomie? Wow. It's almost like he's been acting a little scummy.

Sorry, just felt like being a little toxic.

I think we were getting to the correct path when we were talking about the three of us being town.

Duck’s trying to hard discredit me right now, which I believe is a scum tell.

TownHim misreads me almost 100% of the time, but townhim doesn’t discredit me in this way.

[Flavor Leaf]

UNVOTE: Uncrowned

[Flavor Leaf]

@Creature - Worst stated that my town game is a lot more considered than my scum game. If that doesn’t tell you everything you need to know...

[Flavor Leaf]

VOTE: The Worst

[Uncrowned]

Okay, Gerain's ISO is real short and I'm on my PC now so I'm going to be do a readthrough.

FL I don't really trust myself to read TW correctly but I feel like scum him maybe would've tried to join in on your push on me?

[Flavor Leaf]

Okay, Gerain's ISO is real short and I'm on my PC now so I'm going to be do a readthrough.

FL I don't really trust myself to read TW correctly but I feel like scum him maybe would've tried to join in on your push on me?

No, because if you flip town, he knows I’m coming for him next.

[Flavor Leaf]

Okay, Gerain's ISO is real short and I'm on my PC now so I'm going to be do a readthrough.

FL I don't really trust myself to read TW correctly but I feel like scum him maybe would've tried to join in on your push on me?

No, because if you flip town, he knows I’m coming for him next.

Zoomie flips town, we get you the next day, then he has me in line after that, or he takes me out other ways.

Never does scumDuck not side with you here.

[Flavor Leaf]

Also, Duck just watched me do the same thing to Skitter, one of the strongest town players right now, and straight up tried to use me pushing you as a main reason.

I guarantee you that the Duck is scum here.

His partner is either Gera, Alex, or Loser.

[Flavor Leaf]

Okay, so i don’t guarantee, but he’s high equity scum. Him misreading is par for the course, him opportunistically pushing onto me first is scum indicative. He can always change back to zoomie if it goes wrong then can push me the next day, and you.

If you are town, scum were coasting, which is what we were figuring out.

As soon as we started to figure that out, people started posting more.

[Flavor Leaf]

......lol

FL my love do you see why I'm really not comfortable with you here?

This came off to me like him knowing i know he’s scum, and him talking to me in a “what ya gonna do about it?” Kind of way, which checks out with why he chose to push me.

[LoserdudeOG]

Also ldog has seemed very content to sit behind you FL so would be interested in seeing more from him

you can believe me or not, but I definitely was suspicious of you before FL started vocalizing. Plus I formed my own opinions separate from what FL was pushing. I even said I was having doubts when you were defending yourself because I thought you were making good points. I don't think yall's discussion was a TvS discussion, but I'm also banking on the fact that FL isn't taking advantage of me (pls be town).

LDawg, we’re buds, right? You aren’t just pocketing me?

Omg we are buds lets be friends! I was going to make some banter about formerly living an hour north of SF not 3 months ago but I was like "no Ldog focus on the game you can flirt later!"

But also if you flip scum i will literally never forgive you.

I kind of really don't want to lynch Zoomie day one. Getting vibes that go back to Faustivs entrance that this isn't a scum slot. I'd be game to lynch Gera, but honestly it would be mainly inactivity and the fact that theyve been on Tomth/Alex this whole time without showing any interest to the rest of our reads or game progression, not really convinced this is a scum slot either. Ugh.

[Uncrowned]

Looking at the slot again, Geraintm wouldn't be a bad lynch for today. There's a lot of passive play that I'm not liking from him. I gave him the benefit of the doubt in my read list, because I've tried to go away from wanting to merely lynch for inactivity since I think that without context that's a bad play, but looking at it in hindsight...

By the time he made Post 476 there was a BUNCH of readable content from various slots that could've been commented on. I said the same about Zoomie, hence why I didn't take a liking to that slot and still feel some type of way about it. At that point in the game, there was plenty that could've been said about at least a few players, but he didn't do any of that.

The only push he's made during the game was on Thomth, and other than that he hasn't really done much. I can see there being a good possibility that he thought Thomth was an easy target, pushed it for a bit, saw that Thomth wasn't going to end up getting lynched, and then he decided to go back under the radar and play a game where people like myself and TW null-read him, but don't really consider him to be a huge scum possibility.

I think now that the game has heated up though, and given the fact that the lack of reads or real scumhunting coming from that slot hasn't changed since I made my read list, I think there's a pretty decent chance he's scum.

If I had to make a bet on who the second scum was, it'd have to be him. Zoomie is still my preferred until I do my reevaluation of him, which will also be soon.

[Flavor Leaf]

Zoomie is also politically the best play for scum to mislynch because our conf townie lays them as an option, and you were opposite sides of me in an argument.

Scum are trying not to have Gera be lynched, so my current solve is actually Duck/Gera.

[Uncrowned]

Okay, Gerain's ISO is real short and I'm on my PC now so I'm going to be do a readthrough.

FL I don't really trust myself to read TW correctly but I feel like scum him maybe would've tried to join in on your push on me?

No, because if you flip town, he knows I’m coming for him next.

Zoomie flips town, we get you the next day, then he has me in line after that, or he takes me out other ways.

Never does scumDuck not side with you here.

Okay, this makes sense if Duck is scum.

[LoserdudeOG]

have NOT been getting scumvibes from TW but I also (clearly) have a weak spot for vets who townread me...

[Flavor Leaf]

LDawg and FL for life!!!

I feel like Zoomie’s alignment will become blatantly obvious as the game goes on.

ScumZoomie does not win this game by themselves at the very least.

[LoserdudeOG]

okay okay okay, I'm gonna commit
UNVOTE:
VOTE: Gera

[Flavor Leaf]

Uncrowned, Duck or Gera?