Guns & Roses III [Game over]

[Amrun]

Sorry also the first 2 sentences are basically saying that by lynching Amrun, we can figure out more info about who was on the wagon.

I think others have discussed that in the last 2 pages.

What’s your read on me, alimdia?

I think the case on you day 1 was pretty shet tbh. Your actual alignment is clouded because of that since you'd have defended the same way town or scum.
However there were 2 main wagons on day 1, and the other one flipped town.

Me lynching you would only ever be for complete vote analysis.

VOTE: Dogwatch
I'm also done with texcat (or if it happens.. .GL)

This answer is logical, but does a neat job of sidestepping having an opinion on me.

We have similar lynch pools as me, which is nice, though I no longer scumread GL because scum doesn’t really have motivation to reverse a read on me for meta.

[Amrun]

Right now I think lynching in {texcat, alimdia, DogWatch, DDL, Something_Smart, Iconeum} will yield at least 2 scum. Within that, I’d prefer texcat right at this minute. DogWatch is acceptable.

[DrDolittle]

2 in 6 is roughly 3 in 9...

[DrDolittle]

guys sorry about the tunnel but i really think amrun is scum.

[DrDolittle]

does her texcat read make sense?

the answer is no

[DrDolittle]

the case that you guys are completely neglecting the prior that amrun is a strong town player

this is not the work of a strong town player. this a weak meandering day 2, followed by a weak day 1

please update correctly

[DrDolittle]

I think one of (DW, SmartyPants) is amrun's partner. The other one is probably Aaron Frost

[DrDolittle]

I've been feeling pretty good about datisi today

[DrDolittle]

PS meta is abs not trash its the only real thing left in mafia

[Amrun]

PS meta is abs not trash its the only real thing left in mafia

Meta is kinda trash, yes, but especially secondhand meta.


My reads are garbage this game so like I kinda feel you???? But it’s a pretty easy thing to capitalize on as scum.

Think about it, if you’re town: would I not be fabricating strong stances as scum? It’s extremely easy to do.

As you noted, it is something I usually do as town, and as GL noted, it’s something I typically emulate as scum.

What is the scum motivation for being openly wishy washy and repeatedly reversing reads, for me? Seriously.

I’m lost at sea this game for some reason. I have a few strong townreads but my scumreads are trash. It is what it is.

What is the issue with having a scumread on texcat, though?

[Amrun]

I think one of (DW, SmartyPants) is amrun's partner. The other one is probably Aaron Frost

And I have repeatedly asked you how an Amrun/AF scumteam makes sense. (It doesn’t)

[AaronFrost]

the case that you guys are completely neglecting the prior that amrun is a strong town player

this is not the work of a strong town player. this a weak meandering day 2, followed by a weak day 1

please update correctly

So because Amrun isn't playing as strong of a town game here, that means she must be scum? Wouldn't she try to replicate that more if she was scum?

Like I'm not doubting that Amrun is a strong player or anything, but the case 'she isn't playing to her meta, must be scum' is shallow and surface level.

[AaronFrost]

Right now I think lynching in {texcat, alimdia, DogWatch, DDL, Something_Smart, Iconeum} will yield at least 2 scum. Within that, I’d prefer texcat right at this minute. DogWatch is acceptable.

Why is texcat your preferred lynch right now?

[Amrun]

I feel like one scum flip would crack this game wide open.

[Amrun]

Right now I think lynching in {texcat, alimdia, DogWatch, DDL, Something_Smart, Iconeum} will yield at least 2 scum. Within that, I’d prefer texcat right at this minute. DogWatch is acceptable.

Why is texcat your preferred lynch right now?

I think this sounds stupid even to me, but he’s the only slot that I haven’t been townpinged by even once this game.

Every other slot, I have, whether for strong or weak reasons.

[AaronFrost]

Right now I think lynching in {texcat, alimdia, DogWatch, DDL, Something_Smart, Iconeum} will yield at least 2 scum. Within that, I’d prefer texcat right at this minute. DogWatch is acceptable.

Why is texcat your preferred lynch right now?

Speaking of which...

@Mod:

can you prod texcat?

[Amrun]

PS meta is abs not trash its the only real thing left in mafia

And if meta is so important, why are you bothering trying to compare my play with a game full of players I had played with a long time and therefore had good meta on, with a group of players that are mostly brand new to me as I return to the game six years later? It’s not the same gamestate for me at all.

[AaronFrost]

TRs: {GL, Icon, S_S, alimdia}
TRs but what was that push: {Mena, DDL}
PoE: {Aaron, DW, Tex, Amrun}

This is where I am ftr

And I think I called you Town once, which was after the first wagon on you that I felt emerged for BS reasons.

Can't really PoE though when no one here is confirmed town. Why not just say you're scumreading them?

[Menalque]

I’m gonna try to reread tonight to see what I can get from that

I still think lynching offwagon is correct for today

[DrDolittle]

I am going vla for a couple of days but amrun please dont downplay your town game.

I remember you saying earlier this game your style is stirring up shit and stuff and even fi your reads are shit, the passive mannerism you are playing does not remind me of amrun town at all.

Ps I think making good fabricated reads is hard in general, especially this game because theres little variance in the townieness of players

[DrDolittle]

Like I'm not doubting that Amrun is a strong player or anything, but the case 'she isn't playing to her meta, must be scum' is shallow and surface level.

No you are right AF. Shes not playing to her meta. I should town read her

[GuiltyLion]

DoLittle did you read/look at Micro High Noon that just finished that I referenced the other day? here's a link. I think Amrun played a stronger "town" game there than she did here, so knowing that she's capable of emulating assertive townplay as scum, I don't think it tracks to say she's scum because she's unable to emulate good townplay here.

[GuiltyLion]

if we want to lynch off wagon then texcat is my current choice. I agree with Amrun's assessment in 1589

however I think one thing that's bothering me about my reads right now is most of my scumreads are the ones who aren't doing too much, especially so far on D2, like DogWatch and texcat are both basically non-entities. I don't wanna just assume that scum are not participating, at the same time neither slot is really giving anything substantial to work with so I don't have any good reason personally not to lynch them.

[Menalque]

I really don’t like that we went for a lucky slot yesterday and it flipped town and despite that you wanna follow the exact same strategy again today @GL

[GuiltyLion]

I'd say lurky slots have slightly higher odds of scum than base rate so I don't think that's inherently wrong just because we got a bad lynch yesterday. When somebody has fewer posts than the mod halfway through D2 there's zero reason to townread that slot

also, what's your point with that comment? I literally just acknowledged in 1597 that I myself am frustrated that I don't have any really good feeling scumreads and calling out that two of my PoE suspects are basically not playing today, why do you then feel compelled to say you "really don't like" that?