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[geraintm]

Not really. I barely skimmed the last ten pages once I saw I was gone. I'd look who pushed that first wagon that got to minus one and then now on me, see the links. I'm bad day one at spotting scum, i basically think day one is a total wash and nothing of importance happens until after some deaths. Anyone who spends 30 pages analysing random votes is putting too much effort into a newbie game

[Karnage]

holy shit you guys were busy last night. I need to get caught up but it looks like we have a lynch. Flip wont come for a couple hours though.

[Karnage]

Vote Count 1.24

geraintm (5) ~

NaCl, Zoomie8432, LoserdudeOG, Uncrowned, Flavor Leaf

~ LYNCH

Zoomie8432 (1) ~

Alexcellent

Alexcellent (1) ~

geraintm

Flavor Leaf (1) ~

the worst

Not voting (1) ~

Creature

With 9 alive it's 5 to lynch

Deadline: (expired on 2019-12-16 23:00:00)

Mod Notes

geraintm is V/LA on weekends

[Karnage]

Night 1

geraintm was lynched day 1. They were a

Spoiler:

Vanilla Townie

It is now Night 1. Deadline for night actions is (expired on 2019-12-17 09:00:00).

[Karnage]

Day 2

the worst was killed night 1. They were a

Spoiler:

Vanilla Townie

It is now Day 2.

Vote Count 2.0

Not voting (7) ~

Alexcellent, LoserdudeOG, Uncrowned, Zoomie8432, Flavor Leaf, Creature, NaCl

With 7 alive it's 4 to lynch

Deadline: (expired on 2019-12-24 09:58:14)

mod notes: none

[Flavor Leaf]

@Uncrowned - I’m not actually JK. I was trying to bait a NK.

[Alexcellent]

Why hammer Gerain without claim?

[Alexcellent]

I’m gonna make a questionable play here in twilight. I usually don’t do stuff like this in newbie games, but...

I claim Jailkeeper.

This is a statement, not a claim. We can discuss this tomorrow if I’m here, let’s not discuss it here in twilight.

@Uncrowned - I’m not actually JK. I was trying to bait a NK.

This also seems like a very poor play to randomly make from town perspective

[Alexcellent]

@Uncrowned, how do you feel about Zoomie today? It strikes me as weird for you to push Zoomie so hard and then vote for the guy he's voting for at the last minute

[Uncrowned]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't there no reason for scum to NOT kill you for claiming that, considering if we're in the setup that's been suggested (FN/JK) there'd be no Doctor to heal you?

Unless they called your bluff and went after someone else.

Maybe I'm not thinking about this hard enough.

[Uncrowned]

@Alexcellent

Read Post 759

I still hold this opinion.

[Alexcellent]

Vote Count 1.24

geraintm (5) ~

NaCl, Zoomie8432, LoserdudeOG, Uncrowned, Flavor Leaf

~ LYNCH

Zoomie8432 (1) ~

Alexcellent

Alexcellent (1) ~

geraintm

Flavor Leaf (1) ~

the worst

Not voting (1) ~

Creature

With 9 alive it's 5 to lynch

Deadline: (expired on 2019-12-16 23:00:00)

Mod Notes

geraintm is V/LA on weekends

At least one scum, probs two, were on Gera's wagon. Unless someone can come out with a counterclaim today, Nacle's pretty much conftown. Scum team seems likely in Zoomie/Ldog/Uncrowned/FL. Unless Creature is the other scum.

Zoomie is super sheepish and can still be scum. FL/Zoomie is possible. Zoomie/Uncrowned probs unlikely. FL/Uncrowned would be pretty funny but seems probably not super likely. I need to re-read Ldog. Really need to hear more from Creature as he really wasn't around for the mess at the end of the day.

[Uncrowned]

If I'm correct on Zoomie, I think the only possible partner on that wagon is FL. Like TW said, it would've been a super smart play for Scum!FL to make to push one of the stronger slots in the game at the time (myself) who was making a push on a seemingly weaker slot (Zoomie).

I don't think Zoomie/LDog can be a team, since Zoomie tried to pick out LDog as the scum on the Arkias wagon sort of randomly, without much reasoning behind it. Is there a chance that's just a super weak distancing attempt? Yeah, sure. But I highly doubt it. So LDog for me is in the clear atm.

I liked Creature but we haven't really gotten anything from him in a hot minute which I feel hurts my read.

[Alexcellent]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't there no reason for scum to NOT kill you for claiming that, considering if we're in the setup that's been suggested (FN/JK) there'd be no Doctor to heal you?

Unless they called your bluff and went after someone else.

Maybe I'm not thinking about this hard enough.

It's such a random thing that's boggling my mind. Town motivation for that claim: bait the NK, I guess. But who is he baiting it away from? Nacl?
Scum motivation: bait town PRs.

[Alexcellent]

If I'm correct on Zoomie, I think the only possible partner on that wagon is FL. Like TW said, it would've been a super smart play for Scum!FL to make to push one of the stronger slots in the game at the time (myself) who was making a push on a seemingly weaker slot (Zoomie).

I don't think Zoomie/LDog can be a team, since Zoomie tried to pick out LDog as the scum on the Arkias wagon sort of randomly, without much reasoning behind it. Is there a chance that's just a super weak distancing attempt? Yeah, sure. But I highly doubt it. So LDog for me is in the clear atm.

I liked Creature but we haven't really gotten anything from him in a hot minute which I feel hurts my read.

Fair on Ldog. Really want to hear from Creature.

I need to go back through some stuff on D1. It's early and I'm not looking for any snappy lynches right away, but I'm feeling a Zoomie or FL lynch today.

[Alexcellent]

At the same time, Zoomie voted Ark, more than once. Ark is now FL. Odds of Zoomie busing there?

[Alexcellent]

@Alexcellent

Read Post 759

I still hold this opinion.

Did you think that Gera/Zoomie could be the scum team?

[Uncrowned]

At the same time, Zoomie voted Ark, more than once. Ark is now FL. Odds of Zoomie busing there?

I just looked back to see when he voted him. The first time he did, he was the only person on the Arkias wagon. I think that lowers the chances of the Zoomie/FL team a decent bit, now that you've mentioned it.

That's thrown me off. Gun to my head, if I had to say who is more scummy between Zoomie/FL, I'd say Zoomie. But even if he flipped, I'd have almost no idea who the partner would be, if it wasn't FL.

@Alexcellent

Read Post 759

I still hold this opinion.

Did you think that Gera/Zoomie could be the scum team?

I was "taught" (more so just guided) to not really focus on finding teams D1, so I personally just try to lynch the most scummy looking slot and follow up after that.

But, if I had to make an assessment D1, if Gera flipped scum, I would've been more inclined to believe TW was with him, rather than Zoomie.

D1 I still thought Zoomie was the most scummy of everyone, but with TW switching off the wagon when it was (TW, Uncrowned, Alex) on Zoomie, I knew that to make something happen I'd need to move on to the next target, hence the change to Gerain

[Uncrowned]

What I still want to know about is Zoomie in general, he still hard TRs me even though I straight up think he's Scum, and he's said pretty much nothing about FL jumping in hard to defend him. I don't want to fall into the hole of judging him too much off of one or two things, but I feel like I'm not really being given a choice here.

[Alexcellent]

With Zoomie, I don't know how much of it is from inexperience with forum mafia and how much of it isn't. None of his reads really feel super genuine to me, but I have paranoia that maybe he's just newbie town who doesn't know how to get his own reads and so he's just following more vocal players? I don't know. I get lynchbait vibes from him. But then the fact that he's still alive today is suggesting to me that he's likely scum.

What do you think of FL's hammer on Geraint?

[Uncrowned]

I don't know what to think. FL clearly has self-awareness and knows what he's doing.

His ISO is full of "I'll vote Gera if I have to" and "We may need to vote Gera here" and things of that nature. If it's a setup for a mislycnh, he's done well at having there be a trajectory to the action and not having it come out of the blue.

I'm not sure if the hammer from FL is telling. However, there is something I've noticed that I want to sit on for a bit. If I bring it up now, it'll make the point meaningless.

So the hammer? Eh. I think for me it's too much a case of weighing up "Oh, he's just confident, reckless town" or "He's self-aware scum who knows a hammer here from an SE won't be jumped on by this lobby of players"

But dw, I've got my eye on him. Will bring this up later.

[Flavor Leaf]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't there no reason for scum to NOT kill you for claiming that, considering if we're in the setup that's been suggested (FN/JK) there'd be no Doctor to heal you?

Unless they called your bluff and went after someone else.

Maybe I'm not thinking about this hard enough.

I have a meta of claiming stuff like that. This helps me ease my mind off you more, though.

[Flavor Leaf]

Let’s lynch Zoomie.

[LoserdudeOG]

Let’s lynch Zoomie.

If he’s scum doesn’t that implicate you?? Where is this coming from???

[Flavor Leaf]

Let’s lynch Zoomie.

If he’s scum doesn’t that implicate you?? Where is this coming from???

I don’t care if it implicates me, I’m not scum. If he’s scum, we still gotta lynch him.