Newbie 1971 [Game Over!]

[Kanna]

don't insult Kanna like that

What are you talking about?

[the worst]

vote count 2.02

Map Wolf (1) : Billy Pilgrim
Kanna (0) :
Uncrowned (0) :
Non lmh (0) :
Billy Pilgrim (1) : Map Wolf
Menalque (0) :
skitter30 (0) :

not voting: Kanna, Uncrowned, Non lmh, Menalque, skitter30

with 7 alive it takes 4 to lynch.

day one will end automatically in (expired on 2019-12-23 12:00:00) or sooner if a lynch is achieved by majority.


mod notes:
- skitter30 v/la weekends
- quack

[skitter30]

My preferred lynches are still within my PoE of Billy, Skitter and then Kanna, although Skitter/Kanna are interchangeable in that ordering. I'm open to explanations of why it could be people outside of my PoE (slight paranoia about Non buuuut I think it's unlikely).

i agree with billy, but i really, really don't think kanna is scum here

also wrt to gl dying, he wasn't going after kanna or billy that hard (and at eod he was saying that with how she was interacting aroudn the wagons, he didn't think kanna was likely to flip scum), and i think that semi-experienced scum tend to not make the obvious kill that points right back to them due to who the nk was scumreading

i don't particularly think he was nk'd because of his reads

maybe they thought he was a pr or something, or they thought he woudl be too hard to mislynch

[skitter30]

I get that i look bad for saying that GBJ was a nothing slot early on in the day, but if the theory is that I'm defending him, dont I do a bit more to defend him?

you were p active yesterday in working against his wagon ...

also mena isn't pocketing you, he's just town

[skitter30]

Ftr skitt also knows that I’d lynch a PR claim made under pressure at end of day and uncrumbed

tbf i do know that

[skitter30]

why would scum!skitt get on a wagon at EoD?

why is claiming a PR the best move there? I actually was more tempted to unvote gbj after the VT claim than I would have been if he'd claimed PR I think because it was such a clearly non-optimal play, and I think GL had the same thought

Yes, not voting my partner while my partner was getting wagoned and not voting the cw wagon either was a great plan for me as scum there, i agree

I just think scum!you would try to do any of these routes, and so I don’t think you not voting is AI

After all, billy wants to give you townpoints for not having been on in either direction

if i'm scum who sees that non is at l-1 when i check in on friday morning i just hammer after seeing he all but claimed vt

and then we're at night and there's still two scum the next day

that's like infinitely better than getting townpoints from billy day2 as lone scum when i'd have to carry the next three days to win

[skitter30]

I do actually need more content from kanna and map tho

If we have an investigative a check on non would be ideal, I think

Honestly if an investigative didnt check non, I dont think I'm gonna believe it.

no

[skitter30]

oh i thought i was voting billy

VOTE: billy

[Map Wolf]

I mostly agree with Kanna's readlist except I think she is probably third most likely to be scum.

[Non lmh]

I wanna hammer.
V/LA 2 days

[Kanna]

Ok, I'm done catching up and I'm leaning skitter as scum. VOTE: skitter30

[Kanna]

I looked into Billy a bit more and I think his "scumminess" is exaggerated. Especially his posts today don't have scummy agenda since he's defending skitter who is his counterwagon.

My reordered bottom 3 is skitter>uncrowned>billy I think.

[Kanna]

I maintain my view that Billy Pilgram is likely scum. And yes, GBJ refering to him as "seems scum" is a very possible scumslip.

I still stand by the fact that this isn't conclusive evidence...

[Kanna]

I'm also slightly concerned skitter thinks I'm obvtown after yesterday. Reminds me a bit of this:

Like let me make my votes and pushes and at least get a response unfiltered, even if you disagree with it

yes this is town

guys guilty is town, he just doesnt like being pushed earlygame

[Map Wolf]

I maintain my view that Billy Pilgram is likely scum. And yes, GBJ refering to him as "seems scum" is a very possible scumslip.

I still stand by the fact that this isn't conclusive evidence...

True. And I'm kind of sorry if Billy is town and I am reading too much into it. But I don't wanna see us lose if Billy is actually scum.

[the worst]

vote count 2.03

Map Wolf (1) : Billy Pilgrim
Kanna (0) :
Uncrowned (0) :
Non lmh (0) :
Billy Pilgrim (2) : Map Wolf, skitter30
Menalque (0) :
skitter30 (1) : Kanna

not voting: Uncrowned, Non lmh, Menalque

with 7 alive it takes 4 to lynch.

day one will end automatically in (expired on 2019-12-23 12:00:00) or sooner if a lynch is achieved by majority.


mod notes:
- skitter30 v/la weekends
- quack
- seeking a replacement for Non lmh

[Billy Pilgrim]

@anyone but Map, tell me why Map is town.

@Map - tell me who is scum. And for purposes of this question, I'm not. So assume I get lynched today and then you have to find the last scum, who is it?

[Kanna]

bOOp

Readlist based on yesterday

Map; town.

There was no reason for him to be the third vote and kickstart the GBJ wagon if he was scum + GBJ made a genuine push that way before he was lynched.

Non Imh; town. His last posts were very townie and GBJ also pushed that way. I’m thinking GBJ showed some hesitation in the end because he was so clearly town but did ultimately want to get him lynched.
Mena; very likely town. Started the GBJ wagon, hopped off, then on again. This tells me it wasn’t preplanned bussing.
Uncrowned; weak town/null. He was on the GBJ wagon but I think it’s possible scumUncrowned bussed GBJ at the last minute and his readlist before voting GBJ was to justify being on the wagon.

This leaves Billy and Skitter.

[Kanna]

Yeah I think I'm ok with my readlist.

P.S where is everyone?

[Billy Pilgrim]

bOOp

Readlist based on yesterday

Map; town.

There was no reason for him to be the third vote and kickstart the GBJ wagon if he was scum + GBJ made a genuine push that way before he was lynched.

Non Imh; town. His last posts were very townie and GBJ also pushed that way. I’m thinking GBJ showed some hesitation in the end because he was so clearly town but did ultimately want to get him lynched.
Mena; very likely town. Started the GBJ wagon, hopped off, then on again. This tells me it wasn’t preplanned bussing.
Uncrowned; weak town/null. He was on the GBJ wagon but I think it’s possible scumUncrowned bussed GBJ at the last minute and his readlist before voting GBJ was to justify being on the wagon.

This leaves Billy and Skitter.

Did he do that after Mena hopped off to vote non?

[Menalque]

Yeah I think I'm ok with my readlist.

P.S where is everyone?

busy IRL flying home to the UK for Christmas tomorrow so been wrapping things up

VLA pls ducky

will get to this properly soon

don't Lynch anyone before I do

[Menalque]

skitt feels townier but the problem is that skitt is very good at feeling towny even when she isn't town and I think her actions make her scummy re: gbj so I think we still lynch there today bc I'm prob the NK either way if we go wrong and I have more faith in the rest of you to Lynch scum!billy then scum!skitt

[skitter30]

Ok, I'm done catching up and I'm leaning skitter as scum. VOTE: skitter30

i think we should be voting billy

[skitter30]

I looked into Billy a bit more and I think his "scumminess" is exaggerated. Especially his posts today don't have scummy agenda since he's defending skitter who is his counterwagon.

My reordered bottom 3 is skitter>uncrowned>billy I think.

how do you think his scumminess is exagerrated? what do you think of his play yesterday wrt the ggj wagon?

[skitter30]

I'm also slightly concerned skitter thinks I'm obvtown after yesterday. Reminds me a bit of this:

you're town on tone, town can be wrong sometimes

why do you think this is similar to ggj's read on gl?