Mainstream Mafia II: D&D Edition [FIN]

[Bingle]

I mean...

If we actually care if the outed SK is a nexus the correct answer is use a flavor cop to check.

I don't know why we'd care if the outed SK is a nexus.

I am also continuing to act on the chance that there is another SK, although I kinda doubt it.

Either way it's really not important rn.

[EspressoPatronum]

I have a feeling davesaz is scum.

I've had him in my town blindspot for most of the game, but upon reviewing his ISO, I can't see any solid reason why.

On the other hand, he posts a lot of information without analysis (something I'm guilty of as well tbh), lots of anchor posts, and weak/unexplained reasons for his votes.

He was happy lynching Vork or Elements, but quietly pivoted to Titus without explanation.

I half assed this, so don't assume it's right

Wooper -

BBmolla, Enter, Doctor Drew, Formerfish L-7

Amrun -

Dongempire, Iconeum, gobbledygook L-8

Rautherdir -

Bingle, KidAmn, InsideJob711 L-8

Creature -

Firebringer, Untrod Tripod L-9

Gamma Emerald -

zoraster, Menalque, L-9

Doctor Drew -

Flavor Leaf, Rautherdir L-9

Firebringer -

Creature L-10

Flavor Leaf -

Dr Easy Bake L-10

Vorkuta -

Nero Cain L-10

Menalque -

Virgo the Immaculate L-10

Chennisden -

TSE L-10

TrueSoulEnergy -

Cephrir, Chemist1422, AaronFrost, Gamma Emerald, Amrun, wooper, Chennisden L-14

Thanks, and I won't assume it's right. It's probably close and that's good enough for now.

Agree with wagons on Wooper, Rautherdir, DD, and Vorkuta.

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VOTE: Vorkuta
Let's squeeze this one and see if it talks.
I'm flexible. Give me a reason.

I think TSE is much more likely town than scum. I might (and in fact have in the past) act the same way if people treated me like this.
It is not at all unusual to not hammer someone you think is town, when there is time and opportunity to push scum instead.

Between Elements and Vorkuta, I think Vorkuta is more likely to be scum. Either one would be acceptable.

VOTE: Vorkuta

Pedit: I could be wrong but think I read that kill flavor is indicative in this game. It's a weeks-old memory of something that wasn't important to memorize.

VOTE: Titus

Also, in the Wooper v Zora day, he dropped a Wooper vote without any explanation. I also don't see any meaningful engagement with deciding between Zora or Wooper that day.

Wow, and it was actually silent when my post landed.
VOTE: wooper

He's also made a lot of promises to get involved in the future. It's almost like he's trying to keep everyone under the impression that he's helping without actually doing the heavy lifting.

And then there's the ominous post to BB warning him not to post his flavour before davesaz can explain it.

VOTE: davesaz

[RCEnigma]

RC, have you been able to send out any messages?

I sent one, it's about Dave. But I don't get the feedback that the person I sent it to actually gets it. They kinda have to out that info.

[Rautherdir]

4002 is true. My next price is dying if I cast a hammering vote on someone.

I'd be fine with davesaz or chennis being lynched today.

[EspressoPatronum]

4002 is true. My next price is dying if I cast a hammering vote on someone.

I'd be fine with davesaz or chennis being lynched today.

Why would you check me?? I already had BB and gobble vouching for me.

[KidAmn]

4002 is true. My next price is dying if I cast a hammering vote on someone.

I'd be fine with davesaz or chennis being lynched today.

Why pick such an old post, out of interest? Does your power check if the post was true at the time it was made, or when you submit the action?

PE: Also... yeah, that.

[EspressoPatronum]

RC, have you been able to send out any messages?

I sent one, it's about Dave. But I don't get the feedback that the person I sent it to actually gets it. They kinda have to out that info.

Do you know what sort of info the messages contains?

Anything to help sort davesaz would be nice.

[EspressoPatronum]

I'm hella sus of Rauth now.

@RC was your daycop inno on Rauth a real claim?

[Rautherdir]

4002 is true. My next price is dying if I cast a hammering vote on someone.

I'd be fine with davesaz or chennis being lynched today.

Why would you check me?? I already had BB and gobble vouching for me.

Wait, they did? Where?

[Rautherdir]

4002 is true. My next price is dying if I cast a hammering vote on someone.

I'd be fine with davesaz or chennis being lynched today.

Why pick such an old post, out of interest? Does your power check if the post was true at the time it was made, or when you submit the action?

PE: Also... yeah, that.

When it was made. And an older post because that's what I had available?

[EspressoPatronum]

4002 was also the worst post of mine to lie detect.

I am cobble aligned.

My win condition allows me to win with Cobble.

@Rauth why wouldn't you choose 8496?

[Rautherdir]

And as for why I checked EP, they're one of the slots I haven't been able to read well. And I remembered other people being suspicious of that slot.

p-edit
... Because I used the wrong set of notes when checking to see what posts I can check.

[KidAmn]

4002 is true. My next price is dying if I cast a hammering vote on someone.

I'd be fine with davesaz or chennis being lynched today.

Why pick such an old post, out of interest? Does your power check if the post was true at the time it was made, or when you submit the action?

PE: Also... yeah, that.

When it was made. And an older post because that's what I had available?

So you picked the older and worse to use of 2 posts, that doesn't confirm anything because several nights have passed since, because...?

Starting to feel like there's a non-zero possibility Rauth is compromised, especially given them claiming to have a result on a night I jailkept them. (In case anyone forgot that)

[EspressoPatronum]

@Rauth

4002 is true. My next price is dying if I cast a hammering vote on someone.

I'd be fine with davesaz or chennis being lynched today.

Why would you check me?? I already had BB and gobble vouching for me.

Wait, they did? Where?

Im kind of for leashing an sk, if only to not waste a lynch on what ml is claiming. and the extra town-driven kill is nice

^

Also, lynching elements means we have to then lynch ml, which is two cult recruits without a lynch between them.

EP claimed to be confirmable, btw, resolve that today.

EP confirmed to me last night

Formerfish if you change votes gimme a heybbmolla and I'll sheep you

Off to work for 8 hours l8r

N1 - Flavor Leaf (Bobert the Drunkard, he's stuck here)
N2 - Wooper & Chennisden (Inconclusive; Father Fields, zealot)
N3 - Pine & EP (Cayden Cailean, probably not the actual god but a chill dude named after him(?), also confirmed motivated me via flavor; Ace Brocolla, collesieum owner who loves a good show)
N4 - UT (Ronan Thomias, honorable man, loves his patron)

[EspressoPatronum]

Considering the same kind of thing happened last night...

Well, you can take pisskop off that list, 8722 reported true. My next price is becoming macho.

VOTE: Iconeum
I'm fine with this dying.

Why did you choose 8722?

Pisskop is asking ML to repeat that phrase, not saying it about himself. It could probably come back as true even if he's scum.

Not a good look for Rauth

[Rautherdir]

Hey, I confirmed before submitting that 8722 would work fine.

[Rautherdir]

I either didn't see gobbles backing you or didn't remember it. I haven't been keeping notes on things like that. BBMolla's I did see, but that flavor doesn't scream town.

[Pine]

Hear me out on this: Serial Killer is a brilliant Cult Leader claim

[Rautherdir]

4002 is true. My next price is dying if I cast a hammering vote on someone.

I'd be fine with davesaz or chennis being lynched today.

Why pick such an old post, out of interest? Does your power check if the post was true at the time it was made, or when you submit the action?

PE: Also... yeah, that.

When it was made. And an older post because that's what I had available?

So you picked the older and worse to use of 2 posts, that doesn't confirm anything because several nights have passed since, because...?

Starting to feel like there's a non-zero possibility Rauth is compromised, especially given them claiming to have a result on a night I jailkept them. (In case anyone forgot that)

I picked the older of 2 posts because halfway through the game I decided to switch to making notes of Lie Detectable posts for each day instead of in a single document. And then apparently forgot to either look over the posts-by-day when checking to see who I could check, or to keep the original document updated.

[BBmolla]

Hear me out on this: Serial Killer is a brilliant Cult Leader claim

I think some kills have been confirmed, so he would have to be a CL with a night kill

VOTE: davesaz

[Rautherdir]

If we're worried about Elements we could just force him to make a post I can check. Actually, since I'm apparently terrible at using this role, maybe we should leash my power until I inevitably die from it. The next price is definitely much more actively trying to get me dead.

VOTE: davesaz
Honestly I think we might be down to PoE at this point.

[EspressoPatronum]

If we're worried about Elements we could just force him to make a post I can check. Actually, since I'm apparently terrible at using this role, maybe we should leash my power until I inevitably die from it. The next price is definitely much more actively trying to get me dead.

VOTE: davesaz
Honestly I think we might be down to PoE at this point.

Miss Lynch made a post somewhere about winning with town. Check that of you can't find anything from Elements, davesaz, A50, or the other ppl on gobble's list.

[Rautherdir]

I'm missing posts for Elements, Almost50, and DEB. I have 3841 for Miss Lynch which would probably turn up true but probably doesn't actually tell us what we want to know.

From what ML has claimed her role's ability to win with town depends on Elements staying alive.

[gobbledygook]

VOTE: Daveaz

[EspressoPatronum]

@Rauth. This one, not the death-aligned post.

i literally just have to ensure that there is enough death that orcus is satisfied and we win and then leave. which we achieve by getting to <10 players

which is something i've personally been pushing for by killing scum

but if you kill elements i become sk and then i lose that wincon and it's two more players you ahve to worry about