Mainstream Mafia II: D&D Edition [FIN]

[Rautherdir]

Bodyguard.

[Rautherdir]

Chemist's slot. Which are both of the traditional 'doctor with negative utility' roles.

[Rautherdir]

JOAT also usually has a heal ability. Inventor usually has a bp shot to give. Parasite is self-protecting. Roleblocker is the mafia 'healing' role.

[Pine]

VOTE: UT

Choooo choooo

What’s our thought on turkey? That “let the CL live” tripe is sus af

[Rautherdir]

To be clear, I'm thinking UT is runelord, and chennis is cult leader right now. I'd put gobbles as a likely cult recruit at this point.

[gobbledygook]

Oh yeah I forgot about Bodyguard.

[EspressoPatronum]

If UT is scum then he's the Aasimar woman. We know Amrun was telling the truth about her lists, so fmpv I'm either wrong on the Aasimar woman flavour or UT is guilty.

[gobbledygook]

JOAT also usually has a heal ability. Inventor usually has a bp shot to give. Parasite is self-protecting. Roleblocker is the mafia 'healing' role.

I don’t know. There’s a lot of killing power in this setup.

[Pine]

I really dislike the heavy use of flavor to determine alignment here. We saw an orc flip Town and others flip scum. Further, role name tells us exactly fuck-all with regard to the cult.

An aasimar aligned with a cult themed around Ascension? That’s not even contradictory.

[KidAmn]

At this point I just want Elements and Miss Lynch removed from the equation so I don't have to keep blocking Elements while he comes up with increasingly improbable reasons why he hasn't just killed me to stop him having to worry about these improbable "nexus redirects" stopping him, or whatever the fuck the story will be tomorrow. I still maintain there's a non-zero chance our cult is Ascension of Orcus given how many times in the lore that fucker has ascended, descended, and generally shimmied side to side.

[Pine]

I don’t disagree with you. I’ve wanted Miss Lynch out from D1. They’re claimed 3P, and I don’t believe the claim that they win with Town. Their play strikes me as really self-serving (which again says independent 3P)

Do we have evidence against MissLynch as CL?

[gobbledygook]

Pisskop’s flavor result says they are a goblin Shaman, but the name ML gave is a Half Dragon beast from the lore. A half dragon was shown in the N1 flavor and doesn’t appear to be related to cult.

[pisskop]

didn't get a flavor result. got a name.

[Rautherdir]

Hey, Elements. Can you claim if you leave when we hit 10 players so I can check that?

If this is the case then we should just leash Elements and wait for him and ML to leave at that point in time. It does 'waste' one of my shots but it would get that out of the way for good.

[Cephrir]

I really dislike the heavy use of flavor to determine alignment here. We saw an orc flip Town and others flip scum. Further, role name tells us exactly fuck-all with regard to the cult.

An aasimar aligned with a cult themed around Ascension? That’s not even contradictory.

The aasimar thing really is not just flavor spec.

[pisskop]

they're being really vague in general. they're lying.

rauth, did you have a comment about rce fake-innoing you?

[Cephrir]

At this point I just want Elements and Miss Lynch removed from the equation so I don't have to keep blocking Elements while he comes up with increasingly improbable reasons why he hasn't just killed me to stop him having to worry about these improbable "nexus redirects" stopping him, or whatever the fuck the story will be tomorrow. I still maintain there's a non-zero chance our cult is Ascension of Orcus given how many times in the lore that fucker has ascended, descended, and generally shimmied side to side.

I think you should be trying to RB scum or the cult leader.

[Rautherdir]

At this point I just want Elements and Miss Lynch removed from the equation so I don't have to keep blocking Elements while he comes up with increasingly improbable reasons why he hasn't just killed me to stop him having to worry about these improbable "nexus redirects" stopping him, or whatever the fuck the story will be tomorrow. I still maintain there's a non-zero chance our cult is Ascension of Orcus given how many times in the lore that fucker has ascended, descended, and generally shimmied side to side.

If that slot is self resolving like ML implied then it will remove itself from the equation.

pedit
What? RCE never said it was a fake inno.

[KidAmn]

At this point I just want Elements and Miss Lynch removed from the equation so I don't have to keep blocking Elements while he comes up with increasingly improbable reasons why he hasn't just killed me to stop him having to worry about these improbable "nexus redirects" stopping him, or whatever the fuck the story will be tomorrow. I still maintain there's a non-zero chance our cult is Ascension of Orcus given how many times in the lore that fucker has ascended, descended, and generally shimmied side to side.

I think you should be trying to RB scum or the cult leader.

And I moved my blocks around to try and do so until I hit on Elements and saw the lack of an Orcus kill. Until Elements is resolved in one fashion or another I'm not gonna commit virtual sudoku by leaving him unleashed and unblocked.

[Rautherdir]

They want to prove that I can hammer today without dying, as far as I can tell. That doesn't mean their inno was fake.

p-edit
He was leashed last night. I thought that was established.

[Rautherdir]

We gave Elements a list of people to kill within, with the threat that he would die if he didn't kill in that list. That is leashing, isn't it?

[EspressoPatronum]

I really dislike the heavy use of flavor to determine alignment here. We saw an orc flip Town and others flip scum. Further, role name tells us exactly fuck-all with regard to the cult.

An aasimar aligned with a cult themed around Ascension? That’s not even contradictory.

This reeks of disliking something because you don't understand it. Flavour absolutely is helpful in this game, just like it was in MM1. If you don't believe me, go read chk's write-ups in the MM1 dead thread explaining his night flavour: https://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/UN89s2YayTD

But back to this game:

Nobody is saying all orcs are evil.
Nobody is saying all goblins are evil.

All I'm saying is the flavour suggests an Aasimar woman killed FF. If that is true, and it is also true that we haven't found the Aasimar woman yet, then FF's killer is still alive.

The kills are all heavily flavoured to suggest which faction carried out the kill, and FF's death does not imply a cult kill. Spelling it out -- this might be wrong, but we have reason to believe it's right.

If (1) the Aasimar woman is alive, (2) Amrun's list is accurate, (3) the Aasimar woman killed FF, and (4) FF wasn't killed by cult, then we can assume UT is scum and not cult.

Since I don't know if all of that is correct I'm left with, "I'm either wrong on the Aasimar woman flavour or UT is guilty," which is exactly what I said earlier.

[Pink Ball]

VOTE: Untrod Tripod

[EspressoPatronum]

All that being said, there's a possiblity of Korina being a shapeshifter who could xform into the Aasimar woman, which would mean the list isn't useful anymore and none of the above is useful.

Better to focus on A50 today imo.

[Rautherdir]

Why A50?
Cult leader is probably chennis as far as I'm concerned. I doubt there would be three variations of 'doctor-with-negative-utility' in this game. Especially when several other roles have flipped that could also fill that sort of slot in the setup.