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Post Post #11100 (ISO) » Sun Dec 22, 2019 12:05 pm

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In post 11098, Almost50 wrote:NO. You canNOT target the Hider directly. EVERYTHING fails. You are investigating an "empty home" because te Hider leaves home and "hides" at someone else's home. You target the person they are hiding behind and you get a result (ex: If DEB was hiding behind me, the only way you get a result on him is by targeting me. In that case, you get a double result, so your claimed role would have returned "Not SK, Not SK". That's how you know you targeted someone with a Hider behind them).
That is one of the various hider variants, yes, but not the most common one now or in 2013.
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Post Post #11101 (ISO) » Sun Dec 22, 2019 12:11 pm

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I think I am lost/confused, so I'll go back to chewing on my shoe on this one. It seems Bingle is in the know here, while I was speaking out of my arse about my own experience (and use, as a mod) of the role.

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Post Post #11102 (ISO) » Sun Dec 22, 2019 1:54 pm

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hider has always meant 'immune to any other action' and has traditionally acted almost first in the NAR. im fact, hider is the only counter to strongman I know of.

bingle, are you cult?
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Post Post #11103 (ISO) » Sun Dec 22, 2019 1:55 pm

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also I have confed that I have a flavor investigative. twice now. three if you believe me over ML
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Post Post #11104 (ISO) » Sun Dec 22, 2019 2:41 pm

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In post 11074, davesaz wrote:Went to see Rise of Skywalker. I liked it except for the overabundance of very short scenes in certain sections. My sister-in-law thought it strayed too far from the original.

Unless someone is a sextuple voter, DEB isn't anywhere near L-1.
I know that I owe some graph analysis.
Respect to the no mention policy please.
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Post Post #11105 (ISO) » Sun Dec 22, 2019 2:42 pm

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Well, ML is not town, so he has incentive to lie.
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Post Post #11106 (ISO) » Sun Dec 22, 2019 2:44 pm

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My PM only says any killing action will be stopped, with no mention of investigative things. The wiki says the same thing.
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Post Post #11107 (ISO) » Sun Dec 22, 2019 2:46 pm

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A50 do you have a post restriction that makes you abuse underlines

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Post Post #11108 (ISO) » Sun Dec 22, 2019 3:05 pm

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In post 10939, pisskop wrote:I know EPs power
TSE was a failure
I know cephs role name
I know ml's character name
gams was a failure
Point to where you said EP's power before EP or cephs role name before ceph please, because I see neither, meaning you're still unconfirmed role.
pisskop wrote:hider has always meant 'immune to any other action' and has traditionally acted almost first in the NAR. im fact, hider is the only counter to strongman I know of.

bingle, are you cult?
You might wanna go check the wiki, but I did mention that there are a fuckton of hider variants, which again, you've mentioned one of. The variant you're talking about (weak and ascetic) was about half of the meta in 2013. :roll:
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Post Post #11109 (ISO) » Sun Dec 22, 2019 3:40 pm

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In post 11107, Cephrir wrote:A50 do you have a post restriction that makes you abuse underlines

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lol. No, but I've been told CAPITALIZING (for emphasis) leaves the other party under the impression I was yelling, so I use
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Post Post #11110 (ISO) » Sun Dec 22, 2019 3:57 pm

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In post 11108, Bingle wrote:cephs role name before ceph please
He hinted at this sufficiently that I was able to confirm it.
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Post Post #11111 (ISO) » Sun Dec 22, 2019 3:59 pm

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In post 11110, Cephrir wrote:
In post 11108, Bingle wrote:cephs role name before ceph please
He hinted at this sufficiently that I was able to confirm it.
I guess I dont care if my flavor gets out at this point so I will also say that I believe he can be seen targeting me in night post flavor.
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Post Post #11112 (ISO) » Sun Dec 22, 2019 4:00 pm

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That said, it could totally be a scum rolecop-equivalent.
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Post Post #11113 (ISO) » Sun Dec 22, 2019 4:28 pm

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In post 11103, pisskop wrote:also I have confed that I have a flavor investigative. twice now. three if you believe me over ML
Do you appear in the night flavour?
In post 11108, Bingle wrote:
In post 10939, pisskop wrote:I know EPs power
TSE was a failure
I know cephs role name
I know ml's character name
gams was a failure
Point to where you said EP's power before EP or cephs role name before ceph please, because I see neither, meaning you're still unconfirmed role.
He stated the gambling element of my role before I had said it publicly. He hasn't stated my role and neither have I.


As Ceph said, he could still be a scum cop.
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Post Post #11114 (ISO) » Sun Dec 22, 2019 4:40 pm

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In post 10893, Bingle wrote:
In post 0, chkflip wrote:01. Pine - Motivator (Confirmed to exist)
09. BBmolla - Flavor Cop (Confirmed to Exist)
19. Pink Ball -- INNOCENT CHILD (Confirmed to exist)
23. RCEnigma - Messenger (Confirmed to Exist)
32. gobbledygook - Friendly Neighbor (Confirmed to Exist)
26. Elements - SK (Confirmed via night result and ML claim)

02. Untrod Tripod - PI
08. Rautherdir - Lie Detector
15. Bingle - FBI Agent
17. xofelf - Knows number of cult
25. Miss Lynch - Backup SK, makes SK viable to win with town.
34. chennisden - Faith Healer
28. pisskop - Random JoaT, flavor meshes
38. KidAmn - JK

18. Gamma Emerald (Not Cult N1)
33. Cephrir (Not Cult N2)

21. Dr Easy Bake
24. davesaz
36. Almost50
40. EspressoPatronum
I'm not sure if I missed any claims. If I did, please share. I think EP was confirmed via something, but I'm not sure what. Of category 2, KA can be confirmed to exist via targeting someone who has a tangible night result. (Myself, perhaps?) Xof, ML, Chen, and pk have minor equity as cult leader/scum. DEB, Dave, A50, EP similar.
The list is helpful. It's a reasonable assumption that proven night action roles (along with certain alignment locked roles like IC) can't be CL.
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Post Post #11115 (ISO) » Sun Dec 22, 2019 4:48 pm

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Unless CL was provided multi-act to prevent using this capability to POE. Were games that easy to massclaim break back in the days before I joined?
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Post Post #11116 (ISO) » Sun Dec 22, 2019 5:20 pm

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In post 11115, davesaz wrote:Unless CL was provided multi-act to prevent using this capability to POE. Were games that easy to massclaim break back in the days before I joined?
Game's nowhere near broken if the cult leader lacks a factional or secondary power. You were expected to make your own claim, or perhaps be provided one.
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Post Post #11117 (ISO) » Sun Dec 22, 2019 5:21 pm

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In post 11113, EspressoPatronum wrote:Do you appear in the night flavour?
I dont believe so
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Post Post #11118 (ISO) » Sun Dec 22, 2019 5:27 pm

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In post 11117, pisskop wrote:
In post 11113, EspressoPatronum wrote:Do you appear in the night flavour?
I dont believe so
Hmm, strange. What's your character's race?
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Post Post #11119 (ISO) » Sun Dec 22, 2019 5:28 pm

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chelaxian
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Post Post #11120 (ISO) » Sun Dec 22, 2019 5:28 pm

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I am a hu-man
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Post Post #11121 (ISO) » Sun Dec 22, 2019 5:30 pm

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In post 11120, pisskop wrote:I am a hu-man
Male or female? Young or old?
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Post Post #11122 (ISO) » Sun Dec 22, 2019 5:31 pm

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jeez dude.

A young woman, hard to tell from the pic how old exactly. Wearing some fancy pomp.
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Post Post #11123 (ISO) » Sun Dec 22, 2019 5:36 pm

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In post 11122, pisskop wrote:jeez dude.

A young woman, hard to tell from the pic how old exactly. Wearing some fancy pomp.
Thanks!

The reason I ask is so I have an easier time finding you in the night flavour. This can help verify your role +/ your night actions.
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Post Post #11124 (ISO) » Sun Dec 22, 2019 5:37 pm

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fair enough.

Who should we lynch? I feel like we're kind of stalled, so now is the time to introduce new ideas.
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