Mainstream Mafia II: D&D Edition [FIN]

[pisskop]

I honestly dislike how several really decent players have lurked.

dave
chen
bingle
deb

Im sure there are others who just arent a prat of this. And with such a great playerlist too.

[EspressoPatronum]

The telling factors in the flavour thus far seem to be a combination of the following:
- age
- race
- hair colour
- gender
- clothing + items
- powers used

[pisskop]

01. Pine
08. Rautherdir
15. Bingle
18. Gamma EmeraldD
21. Dr Easy Bake
23. RCEnigma
24. davesaz
34. chennisden
36. Almost50, who replaced jadesmar
38. KidAmn

The following players are lacking content. Im really happy with pressuring or copping any of these. Mostly

[EspressoPatronum]

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Who should we lynch? I feel like we're kind of stalled, so now is the time to introduce new ideas.

DEB, RC, chenn seem like good options. Gamma is an unknown + could be an alternative to the other 3. What are your thoughts?

My dayvig should help spark some new ideas, but I'm waiting for the flavour first.

[EspressoPatronum]

I'm pretty sure the N2 flavour confirms that's RC tried to use a lightning rod. I'd like him send a message about one of our evil people (Elements or ML) to test what it says. If the message says they're evil, then RC is probably town. If the message tells us how great they are, RC is scum.

[EspressoPatronum]

01. Pine
08. Rautherdir
15. Bingle
18. Gamma EmeraldD
21. Dr Easy Bake
23. RCEnigma
24. davesaz
34. chennisden
36. Almost50, who replaced jadesmar
38. KidAmn

The following players are lacking content. Im really happy with pressuring or copping any of these. Mostly

Rauth is apparently self resolving, so there's no need for cops on him imo. We should lynch him if he's still alive in a few days.

[RCEnigma]

I'm pretty sure the N2 flavour confirms that's RC tried to use a lightning rod. I'd like him send a message about one of our evil people (Elements or ML) to test what it says. If the message says they're evil, then RC is probably town. If the message tells us how great they are, RC is scum.

Like this is a really arbitrary thing to base my alignment on considering I don't have control of anything the message says, whether the message contains any useful info, and it's mostly up to the recipients interpretation.

If that's what my alignments being based on then whatever.

[chennisden]

Yeah, that's how I feel about this game in general

[pisskop]

01. Pine
08. Rautherdir
15. Bingle
18. Gamma EmeraldD
21. Dr Easy Bake
23. RCEnigma
24. davesaz
34. chennisden
36. Almost50, who replaced jadesmar
38. KidAmn

The following players are lacking content. Im really happy with pressuring or copping any of these. Mostly

Rauth is apparently self resolving, so there's no need for cops on him imo. We should lynch him if he's still alive in a few days.

on that list im fairly cetain kid is town. I townlean Pine and Rauth as well. I dont see a reason to murder dave other than willful neglect of the game, which isnt baseless . . .

People who are pushing A50: why is a50 scum? I think he is being quieter than usual, but is that scummy for him?

[EspressoPatronum]

I'm pretty sure the N2 flavour confirms that's RC tried to use a lightning rod. I'd like him send a message about one of our evil people (Elements or ML) to test what it says. If the message says they're evil, then RC is probably town. If the message tells us how great they are, RC is scum.

Like this is a really arbitrary thing to base my alignment on considering I don't have control of anything the message says, whether the message contains any useful info, and it's mostly up to the recipients interpretation.

If that's what my alignments being based on then whatever.

From the MM1 mafia QT: https://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/A8pe2AetNTA

"Political Speech Writer - My little bundle of pride and joy. He picks two targets. I will write a PM to target two about how awesome target one is. It will be signed "Your Trusted Politician". You will not receive a copy of said PM."

Your role sounds almost the exact same as this role. A town role that provides false and only positive information makes no sense. If yours does this, it must be a mafia role.

If yours provides truthful information (ie. It tells us ML or Elements is evil, which we already know), then your role in different from last game's speech writer.

[RCEnigma]

No that's exactly my role.

[RCEnigma]

It doesn't say I write only positively though.

[EspressoPatronum]

It doesn't say I write only positively though.

That's exactly what I want you to prove.

[pisskop]

Writing about elements or ml is completely reasonable

[davesaz]

People who are pushing A50: why is a50 scum? I think he is being quieter than usual, but is that scummy for him?

This is very much worth looking into.
BTW I've been useless mostly because every time I try to spend more than 5 minutes reading the game one of my family knocks on my door and wants me to do something. IN FACT it just happened again.

[davesaz]

People who are pushing A50: why is a50 scum? I think he is being quieter than usual, but is that scummy for him?

This is very much worth looking into.

If you think A50 is being quieter than normal then I don't understand that at all. He looks pretty standard to me and pretty town.
Who should I look at for pushing on him?

[Gamma Emerald]

01. Pine
02. Untrod Tripod

03. Wooper, Town Paranoid Bat Owner
04. Firebringer, Town Odd-Night Poisoner
05. Amrun, Town Forensic Cop
06. Iconeum, Town 1-shot Parasite

07. Korina, Mafia Godfather / Brownie Maker

08. Rautherdir
09. BBmolla

10. Chemist, Town Bodyguard
11. The Fonz, Town Lover
12. TrueSoulEnergy, Town

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Cult Executioner

13. Menalque, Town

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Cult Lover

14. Titus, Mafia Ruffian

15. Bingle

16. Nero Cain, Town Inventor

17. xofelf
18. Gamma Emerald

19. Pink Ball -- INNOCENT CHILD
20. Vorkuta, Town Sleepwalker

21. Dr Easy Bake

22. AaronFrost, Town Suicide Bomber

23. RCEnigma
24. davesaz
25. Miss Lynch
26. Elements

27. Doctor Drew, Town Modified Paranoid Gun Owner

28. pisskop

29. zoraster, Mafia Hated Roleblocker

30. Formerfish, Town Gladiator
31. cyrus62, Town Vengeful

32. gobbledygook
33. Cephrir
34. chennisden

35. Creature, Town Supersaint

36. Almost50

37. Flavor Leaf, Pseudo-Town? Deputy

38. KidAmn

39. InsideJob711, Town

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Cult JOAT

40. EspressoPatronum

Finally did this, I find the spread interesting, but I also recalled something about the game being randomized when it was first made, which probably dispenses any real revelations this could give

I think I want to go over living roles following this but I’m not aware what is claimed rn, I know xof is like a census taker thing, I’m aware the Elements+ML are apparently SKs, I know Rauth is some lie detector that gets punished each time it acts, that’s about it I think
xofelf does your role tell you the totals of all alignments or just the amount of cult?

[davesaz]

01. Pine - Motivator (Confirmed to exist)
09. BBmolla - Flavor Cop (Confirmed to Exist)
19. Pink Ball -- INNOCENT CHILD (Confirmed to exist)
23. RCEnigma - Messenger (Confirmed to Exist)
32. gobbledygook - Friendly Neighbor (Confirmed to Exist)
26. Elements - SK (Confirmed via night result and ML claim)

02. Untrod Tripod - PI
08. Rautherdir - Lie Detector
15. Bingle - FBI Agent
17. xofelf - Knows number of cult
25. Miss Lynch - Backup SK, makes SK viable to win with town.
34. chennisden - Faith Healer

28. pisskop - Random JoaT, flavor meshes

38. KidAmn - JK

18. Gamma Emerald (Not Cult N1)
33. Cephrir (Not Cult N2)

21. Dr Easy Bake
24. davesaz
36. Almost50
40. EspressoPatronum

I'm not sure if I missed any claims. If I did, please share. I think EP was confirmed via something, but I'm not sure what. Of category 2, KA can be confirmed to exist via targeting someone who has a tangible night result. (Myself, perhaps?) Xof, ML, Chen, and pk have minor equity as cult leader/scum. DEB, Dave, A50, EP similar.

Do you think two JOAT in the game?

[davesaz]

I think someone questioned InsideJob's hider shot conflicting with DEB being hider. Can't find the post now to quote it.
The post that IJ claimed the hide in was the one that failed the lie detector check. So it isn't a conflict with DEB's claim.

[Gamma Emerald]

What is a “random JOAT”? That will determine if I think they can co-exist.
Why does UT only have results for N1 and N2 listed there, did his other targets die?
And I’m interested in that faith healer claim, has chenny talked about any flavor around it?
How does ML’s joint win work?

[Cephrir]

Do you appear in the night flavour?

I dont believe so

Oh ok it must have been UT that flavor visited me

[Gamma Emerald]

Unless we know IJ711 has a hider shot that should not conflict imo

[xofelf]

I'm specifically an Anti-Cult Spotter, I only know the current count of cult in the game, that's all.

[pisskop]

People who are pushing A50: why is a50 scum? I think he is being quieter than usual, but is that scummy for him?

This is very much worth looking into.

If you think A50 is being quieter than normal then I don't understand that at all. He looks pretty standard to me and pretty town.
Who should I look at for pushing on him?

I think he is lurking.

[BBmolla]

I really think it’s Chenn y’all.