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Post Post #11175 (ISO) » Mon Dec 23, 2019 7:13 am

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In post 11173, Cephrir wrote:That argument does nothing for me. Do something town if you want to live.
Do something town even if you don't want to live. There's a boatload of analysis in the thread, but not a lot of feels reads and you're a decent feels-reads-player. I promise to come back to your reads if you flip town and I'm not likely to be going anywhere any time soon.
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Post Post #11176 (ISO) » Mon Dec 23, 2019 7:16 am

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In post 11171, chennisden wrote:
In post 11164, chennisden wrote:Yall don't you think I'd play with a little more direction if I was
cult,
scum, ergo I'd know what's going on
Why would we assume you're town because you didn't play?
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Post Post #11177 (ISO) » Mon Dec 23, 2019 7:19 am

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In post 11166, Bingle wrote:FTR, I'm not sure what an incriminating flavor message from RCE would look like for the cult, nor do I particularly trust RCE's role to be overtly useful in this fashion
Agreed but I'll play along. Dunno how the role worked in the first iteration of this game.
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Post Post #11178 (ISO) » Mon Dec 23, 2019 7:20 am

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In post 11173, Cephrir wrote:That argument does nothing for me. Do something town if you want to live.
VOTE: deb
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Post Post #11179 (ISO) » Mon Dec 23, 2019 7:21 am

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In post 11176, RCEnigma wrote:
In post 11171, chennisden wrote:
In post 11164, chennisden wrote:Yall don't you think I'd play with a little more direction if I was
cult,
scum, ergo I'd know what's going on
Why would we assume you're
town
scum because you didn't play?
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Post Post #11180 (ISO) » Mon Dec 23, 2019 7:25 am

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Because scum benefits more from lack of interaction than town. Agreed?
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Post Post #11181 (ISO) » Mon Dec 23, 2019 7:54 am

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Fair
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Post Post #11182 (ISO) » Mon Dec 23, 2019 7:54 am

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RCE I dont feel like ur town
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Post Post #11183 (ISO) » Mon Dec 23, 2019 7:55 am

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In post 11175, Bingle wrote:
In post 11173, Cephrir wrote:That argument does nothing for me. Do something town if you want to live.
Do something town even if you don't want to live. There's a boatload of analysis in the thread, but not a lot of feels reads and you're a decent feels-reads-player. I promise to come back to your reads if you flip town and I'm not likely to be going anywhere any time soon.
The last line is weird, Bingle, and it feels overtly pockety
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Post Post #11184 (ISO) » Mon Dec 23, 2019 7:56 am

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If it helps I feel like scum has led the dialogue for a while
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Post Post #11185 (ISO) » Mon Dec 23, 2019 8:32 am

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In post 11183, chennisden wrote:
In post 11175, Bingle wrote:
In post 11173, Cephrir wrote:That argument does nothing for me. Do something town if you want to live.
Do something town even if you don't want to live. There's a boatload of analysis in the thread, but not a lot of feels reads and you're a decent feels-reads-player. I promise to come back to your reads if you flip town and I'm not likely to be going anywhere any time soon.
The last line is weird, Bingle, and it feels overtly pockety
Unless Bingle got recruited then he's town. I checked him night 1.

Also, Bingle, you do realize if Kid protects Pine then I can't get motivated, right? I need people to target within and have posts I can target before we end the day anyways.
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Post Post #11186 (ISO) » Mon Dec 23, 2019 8:34 am

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In post 11163, Cephrir wrote:Ok sure I dont think pk's info on me could be called a role name. Nothing about what power I have appears anywhere in the thread afaik.
yous a dearven bartender.
beeboy - Everyone thought this game was made to troll pie but it was really made to troll pisskop.
Almost50 pisskop: Overall, that's a townie slot. Don't ask for specifics because with PK everything can be interpreted either way. It's probably WHEN he says/does things that matter, so it's more of a matter of conception rather than solid reasoning.
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Post Post #11187 (ISO) » Mon Dec 23, 2019 8:34 am

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sorry barkeep
beeboy - Everyone thought this game was made to troll pie but it was really made to troll pisskop.
Almost50 pisskop: Overall, that's a townie slot. Don't ask for specifics because with PK everything can be interpreted either way. It's probably WHEN he says/does things that matter, so it's more of a matter of conception rather than solid reasoning.
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Post Post #11188 (ISO) » Mon Dec 23, 2019 8:36 am

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In post 11184, chennisden wrote:If it helps I feel like scum has led the dialogue for a while
So, do you have any suspects due to this?
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Post Post #11189 (ISO) » Mon Dec 23, 2019 8:40 am

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In post 11186, pisskop wrote:
In post 11163, Cephrir wrote:Ok sure I dont think pk's info on me could be called a role name. Nothing about what power I have appears anywhere in the thread afaik.
yous a dearven bartender.
ya, their point was this is a flavor title not a role name (e.g. doctor)
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Post Post #11190 (ISO) » Mon Dec 23, 2019 8:41 am

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btw this is me in the n2 flavor
In post 8067, chkflip wrote:On the other side of town, a beefy Bugbear was using the original pad and quill to take notes on a target of his own. The Dwarf at The Rotten Crop knew none the wiser.
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Post Post #11191 (ISO) » Mon Dec 23, 2019 8:43 am

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not that anyone is contesting it, but here are some flavor crumbs
In post 163, Cephrir wrote:
I headed down to the dumpy bar nearby for a drink instead. Maybe the barkeep could offer me some clues. Maybe the liquor could ease my feeling that something was very wrong here.
In post 728, Cephrir wrote:
for now, I need a drink.
In post 3882, Cephrir wrote:
I was washing out of the case. There was so much information, most of it worthless, and I found my desire to parse it was less than my desire to have a drink. These things happen even to the best. Slumps are just part of the job. Really, if you aren't having at least one brooding slump a week, you're not even a real PI.
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Post Post #11192 (ISO) » Mon Dec 23, 2019 8:49 am

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In post 5703, EspressoPatronum wrote:
In post 5702, Titus wrote:
In post 5698, EspressoPatronum wrote:
In post 5696, Titus wrote:VOTE: TSE

That. Voting so it shows in my ISO.
Would you join the Vork wagon instead?
I would. I haven't had any interaction with Vork, so I'd prefer TSE who is actually scummy versus a null read.
My pitch to you is twofold:
1. There's no need to rush a TSE lynch.
2. Vork is a good alternative to TSE (especially for you).

On the first point: TSE's behaviour might look scummy, but that same behaviour can come from town or 3p. With that in mind, I'd say a more reliable way of reading TSE is through the flavour of his role.

If you go read the flavour of Drew's execution, you'll see that TSE is a spider person. TSE confirmed this later, saying his name is something like "goblin eater." Assuming TSE is telling the truth about the goblin aspect of his role, all we have to do is wait until we figure out where goblins fit into this game. If goblins are exclusively scum, then TSE is likely town. If goblins are mixed scum and town, then TSE is likely 3p. If there's no goblins, TSE lied and he's scum. In all 3 of these cases, we can figure out TSE's role if we wait for more information. There's no need to rush a lynch on TSE.

Looking at Vork for the second point: he's cruising under the radar, lurking, and disregarding the seriousness of his wagon. It's possible he's disinterested town, but I'd say it's more likely he's scum trying to downplay the pushes on him. The wagonomics of D1 points to Vork being possible scum, as he was the alternative wagon to Drew.

Finally, considering the fact that you're the third wagon, and recalling that TSE will be sorted later, your best play should be to join on Vork.
In post 5705, Titus wrote:VOTE: Vork

Appealing to my sense of wagonomics, I'm in until I can verify. I also like the rationale especially compared to the reasons some players got on my wagon.

#pocketed
this doesn't seem like a scumbuddy interaction to me
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Post Post #11193 (ISO) » Mon Dec 23, 2019 8:51 am

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the only other thing i get from titus/virgo iso is that i have no idea why she was calling UT obvtown
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Post Post #11194 (ISO) » Mon Dec 23, 2019 9:25 am

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i don't have much to say about zor iso. his push on gamma started out strong and just sort of disappeared, and it's interesting he never addressed my post on his interaction with ut.
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Post Post #11195 (ISO) » Mon Dec 23, 2019 9:27 am

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ok i see why no one has reread day 2 yet the relevant portion is 120 pages
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Post Post #11196 (ISO) » Mon Dec 23, 2019 9:56 am

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In post 11190, Cephrir wrote:btw this is me in the n2 flavor
In post 8067, chkflip wrote:On the other side of town, a beefy Bugbear was using the original pad and quill to take notes on a target of his own. The Dwarf at The Rotten Crop knew none the wiser.
So you're the dwarf?
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Post Post #11197 (ISO) » Mon Dec 23, 2019 10:09 am

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Pisskop, who do you think is the cult leader?
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Post Post #11198 (ISO) » Mon Dec 23, 2019 10:29 am

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In post 11196, gobbledygook wrote:
In post 11190, Cephrir wrote:btw this is me in the n2 flavor
In post 8067, chkflip wrote:On the other side of town, a beefy Bugbear was using the original pad and quill to take notes on a target of his own. The Dwarf at The Rotten Crop knew none the wiser.
So you're the dwarf?
yeah

dwarven barkeep, as pk said. my bar is the rotten crop.

also i'm working through d2 now and i so far i think we are focusing on all the wrong people today
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Post Post #11199 (ISO) » Mon Dec 23, 2019 10:33 am

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In post 11198, Cephrir wrote:also i'm working through d2 now and i so far i think we are focusing on all the wrong people today
I agree, but I have no idea who we should be focusing on. It is quite sad.
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