Micro 908: Micromence Vengeful (Misfire)

[gobbledygook]

I think Cheeky might be town though.

[chkflip]

I undoubtedly waffled ever so slightly on your slot, sure.

It only took 49 posts (over the course of three days and ~4 hours) for me to correct that.

You're kind of evading my points right now, though, which is kind of disappointing.

In a matter of 37 posts you went from "I didn't say RC replacing out makes me town" to "I'm conftown bc RC replaced out" which I find a far more significant shift in opinion than mine on your slot.

[gobbledygook]

"I didn't say RC replacing out makes me town"

Where did I say this or say anything like this?

I’ve been pretty consistent saying that RC replacing out makes it more likely I am town.

[chkflip]

It's only ten posts ago I don't understand how you missed that.

[gobbledygook]

It's only ten posts ago I don't understand how you missed that.

No. Point to my iso where I say “RC’s replace out doesn’t make me town”

Those are your words, not mine.

[gobbledygook]

I feel like you’re gaslighting me Chk. I am looking through my iso.

[chkflip]

I just want it to be known that I did not say this was why RC replaced out, nor did I insinuate it was the reason. I don’t know why RC did it, I just knew I had seen him do that when he was town.

Two comma'd sentences that, when shortened with my 1337 English skills, read as:

"I didn't say RC replacing out makes me town"

Pedit: yeah, you and my

ex-wife

. Gaslighting hahaha stop it.

[gobbledygook]

I must be misinterpreting your post then. When I read “if you’re scum” from Lovebird, I think that she is saying she can read him if he pushes her or that RC pushing Lovebird means RC is scum which doesn’t quite make sense to me.

TUUUUUUURK.

I'm sorry you replaced into a scum slot. The cow replacing out kind of pushes that further into red territory for me ngl.

It should actually do the opposite. RC has a habit of doing this as town as far as i know. He just did the same thing in a Newbie game I was in. It’s why I jumped at the chance to take his slot. I like playing town.

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=81414

Replacing out as town to protect the "75% winrate" they wear like a fucking badge. It isn't real if you replace out at the first sign of opposition. I've run into that type before, though, so gobbs saying that doesn't surprise me in the slightest.

Ah, yeah. I'm hoping it's something that can be discussed post-game. I think losing and disagreements/misplays are part of the game, so it's a bit disappointing to see.

As far as I'm concerned though, right now I think that slot is town.

I just want it to be known that I did not say this was why RC replaced out, nor did I insinuate it was the reason. I don’t know why RC did it, I just knew I had seen him do that when he was town.

I mean I am basically confirmed town by RC’s replaceout, but c’est la vie I guess.

These are all my posts related to RC’s replaceout. I never said his replace out doesn’t make me town.

[gobbledygook]

I just want it to be known that I did not say this was why RC replaced out, nor did I insinuate it was the reason. I don’t know why RC did it, I just knew I had seen him do that when he was town.

Two comma'd sentences that, when shortened with my 1337 English skills, read as:

"I didn't say RC replacing out makes me town"

Pedit: yeah, you and my

ex-wife

. Gaslighting hahaha stop it.

You literally removed all context to that comment which was in reference to you saying he replaced our to protect his winrate and also Uncrowned seemingly wanting to talk about that potential reason. That was also not 10 posts ago like you said... that was one of the earlier posts I made in this game after replacing in.

[gobbledygook]

I just want it to be known that I did not say this was why RC replaced out, nor did I insinuate it was the reason. I don’t know why RC did it, I just knew I had seen him do that when he was town.

Two comma'd sentences that, when shortened with my 1337 English skills, read as:

"I didn't say RC replacing out makes me town"

Pedit: yeah, you and my

ex-wife

. Gaslighting hahaha stop it.

So are you admitting you read it wrong then?

[chkflip]

As of 228, 10 posts ago was 218. In which I posted your most recent "RC replacing out basically makes me town" to what you'd said on the matter previously. I feel like you're being purposefully obtuse to rile me up again and I'm not having it bud. I also posted it in all its glory in 218. Here you go again.

I mean I am basically confirmed town by RC’s replaceout, but c’est la vie I guess.

Replacing out as town to protect the "75% winrate" they wear like a fucking badge. It isn't real if you replace out at the first sign of opposition. I've run into that type before, though, so gobbs saying that doesn't surprise me in the slightest.

Ah, yeah. I'm hoping it's something that can be discussed post-game. I think losing and disagreements/misplays are part of the game, so it's a bit disappointing to see.

As far as I'm concerned though, right now I think that slot is town.

I just want it to be known that I did not say this was why RC replaced out, nor did I insinuate it was the reason. I don’t know why RC did it, I just knew I had seen him do that when he was town.

uh

what

The posts you quoted being snipped out neither changes, nor implicates a different viewpoint, then what you said. You're saying that cow replacing out doesn't mean you're town in that post. That's literally what you said.

I said that I could see him replacing out as town to protect his winrate. I did say that.

Uncrowned said they'll discuss it in post. He did say that.

Those posts, after being removed, don't alter the fact that you felt compelled to reiterate your stance on "why [cow] replaced out" and that you didn't know why cow did. Just that you had seen them replace out previously as town.

And now you're saying cow replacing out basically makes you town.

Those are two vastly different opinions.

[CheekyTeeky]

Gobbles/Uncrowned/Lovebird or nah?

Lovebird is the weakest read, they seemed to be active lurking (different from just lurking) so I wouldn't cry over lynching or venging there.
I do like this solve.

Why Lovebird?

[CheekyTeeky]

Oh messed up the quote

Gobbles/Uncrowned/Lovebird or nah?

Why Lovebird?

Lovebird is the weakest read, they seemed to be active lurking (different from just lurking) so I wouldn't cry over lynching or venging there.

[CheekyTeeky]

*bbmolla jumping ship when turkey under pressure noted*

[gobbledygook]

The posts you quoted being snipped out neither changes, nor implicates a different viewpoint, then what you said. You're saying that cow replacing out doesn't mean you're town in that post. That's literally what you said.

Thats literally not what that post says.

[gobbledygook]

177 is me saying I do not why RC replaced out in response to you saying he replaced out to protect his win con and Uncrowned wanting to talk about that. 177 does not say “RC’s replace out does not make me town”


Cheeky/anyone can we have someone not attached to this read 177 and clarify for Chk that he’s reading it completely wrong

[chkflip]

"...I just knew I had seen him do that when he was town."

=/=

"I mean I am basically confirmed town by RC's replaceout..."

That's literally what both posts say.

They statements in and of themselves are not congruent with one another.

In the first you're dancing around the fact that you've seen him replace out as town.

In the second you're flat out stating it means you're "basically confirmed town" because he replaced out. I'm not even paraphrasing now. Those are your EXACT words. Those two statements don't mean the same thing. It's MAYBE arguable that you thought you were implying the second statement with the first statement.

But you didn't.

And you're not saying you did now.

You're at best fighting a battle over semantics.

At worst? More posturing.

I'm done repeating myself. This is silly.

[gobbledygook]

W/e I’m vigging you if I die so I don’t really care if you don’t want to comment any further on it.

[gobbledygook]

"...I just knew I had seen him do that when he was town."

=/=

"I mean I am basically confirmed town by RC's replaceout..."

That's literally what both posts say.

They statements in and of themselves are not congruent with one another.

You are misstating what you originally accused me of.

You originally said that I said “RC’s replaceout out doesn’t make me town” which is the opposite of what I have been saying this entire game. Now you’re changing it to “I knew I had seen him do it as town” which is true but I said literally “it should do the opposite because RC has done this as town”

It’s very odd that you completely misread the statement originally but are still defending the point to maintain your ground and that is very scummy.

VOTE: Chkflip

[chkflip]

Still wrong, gobbledygook, but good job. Now I'm talking about it again.

"...I just knew I had seen him do that when he was town." is an exact quote from 177. Which, again, to me, isn't far off from my interpretation in 226 as "I didn't say RC replacing out makes me town" regardless to the rest of the post.

Let me elucidate.

You're spending the post (177) stating how my interpretation of his replace out [to protect his winrate, therefore making the slot town in my opinion] shouldn't be why I read you as town. You didn't agree with how I got there and felt the need to reestablish only that you'd seen RC replace out previously as town. Thats it. Not that we should automatically read you as town because he replaced out. Just that you'd seen him do such a thing as town previously. THEREFORE, you're at least -- AT. FUCKING. LEAST. -- implying RCs replacing out doesn't make you town.

Not basically.
Not partially.
Not. At. All.

Otherwise you wouldn't have added the caveat, which I have quoted and requoted AND REQUOTED AGAIN that you've only SEEN HIM replace out AS TOWN but that you didn't agree with how we got there. How we got there is irrelevant at this point. So I snipped that part out. The fact of the matter is that you said you've seen him replace out as town in previous games. That's all you said. That's all you reiterated in 177.

This, again, to me, implies that you're saying his replace out doesn't make you town. Regardless to whether or not you agreed, disagreed, or otherwise with the semantics we were throwing around at the time. You said that you've seen him replace out of games as town, NOT "I am basically confirmed town" because he replaced out. Which again isn't my interpretation anymore, since that's the huge hang up here. That's a direct quote. I've not changed my stance.

Not basically.
Not partially.
Not. At. All.

My interpretation of your proverbial stand against my assumptions in 177 is that his replace out doesn't make you town. Then, not 40-some-odd posts later you say that his replace out DOES in fact make you town.

The second post is using his replace out to make you town. The first one doesn't even nudge in that direction. They're not the same opinion. They're not even fucking similar.

I need to stfu and allow other people to play at this point.

We're not getting anywhere here.

[CheekyTeeky]

I'm honestly confused about what you guys are arguing about. Like some bullet points somewhere might help? Atm I read that chkflip thinks gobble is scum for cog dis - saying one thing and then not following the same logic later.
Turkey thinks chicken fillet is scum because they are misrepping.

Is this ~ the tldr?

[chkflip]

mmm I did write a wall that just summarized into two words, didn't I?

That's a Goddamn shame.

[Uncrowned]

Where did RC coach me?

Going out tonight but will read the above interaction when I can.

[gobbledygook]

Chk misrepresented what I said to a strong degree. I find that very sunny. He is clinging to the misrepresentation now.

[Amrun]

One of chk/gobble is scum, but not both. Clearly not svs.

Feeling good about cheekyteeky now.

I want to resolve this spat, and I’m not too fussed which way. For now I prefer

vote: chkflp

I follow his thoughts on it. However, he has seemed really blustery since replacing in and something just seems off.