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Post Post #650 (ISO) » Tue Dec 31, 2019 5:24 pm

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You type really fast ducky
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Post Post #651 (ISO) » Tue Dec 31, 2019 5:25 pm

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In post 648, Menalque wrote:I mean or you don’t do that bc then you’re much more likely to be lynched tomorrow and you wanna pocket me instead
if you think this is a pocket attempt you're either like, critically tunnelled or trying to mislynch me. :P

i type at a decent pace but my internet connection is shit so every time i'm pedited i'm frozen for a bit; please post a bit slowr
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Post Post #652 (ISO) » Tue Dec 31, 2019 5:25 pm

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We could do lamist too tbf
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Post Post #653 (ISO) » Tue Dec 31, 2019 5:25 pm

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I’m very drunk ducky

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Post Post #654 (ISO) » Tue Dec 31, 2019 5:25 pm

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You always feel like ur pocketing me thh
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Post Post #655 (ISO) » Tue Dec 31, 2019 5:26 pm

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VOTE: lamist
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Post Post #656 (ISO) » Tue Dec 31, 2019 5:26 pm

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just for the record like

datisi asked me if i was ok to stay on the replacement list
i said yes
i iso'd iconeum and was like "wow i get to replace townconeum cool"

like the dragon is absurdly easy to read and you're reading him incorrectly based on insanely surface level reasoning so like

given how little of this game i'm aware of i will be checking the probability of your alignment against this : ]
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Post Post #657 (ISO) » Tue Dec 31, 2019 5:26 pm

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In post 654, Menalque wrote:You always feel like ur pocketing me thh
that's because i love you out of game - easy mistake to make
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Post Post #658 (ISO) » Tue Dec 31, 2019 5:27 pm

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I disagree that the dragon is easy to read and idk why u day that

I think the dragon always reads as scum and then you have the problem of needing to figure out if he’s actually scum
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Post Post #659 (ISO) » Tue Dec 31, 2019 5:28 pm

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do you want me to like, explain why i found his iso really obvtown really quick
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Post Post #660 (ISO) » Tue Dec 31, 2019 5:28 pm

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What in dragon iso made you think tozn
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Post Post #661 (ISO) » Tue Dec 31, 2019 5:29 pm

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Oof ninja
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Post Post #662 (ISO) » Tue Dec 31, 2019 5:29 pm

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Yes very yes
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Post Post #663 (ISO) » Tue Dec 31, 2019 5:30 pm

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after this game i'm not sure i'm capable of townreading scumconeum anymore; you'll recall in alisae vs. pine i correctly scumcased his associatives with flipped scumslots but ALSO correctly identified his avoidance of pivotal associative moments & inability to correctly engage with the game in a way which indicated a solving mindset - not because he didn't hold a conversation properly

maybe i've just played with iconeum too much
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Post Post #664 (ISO) » Tue Dec 31, 2019 5:37 pm

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I mean I’d feel better about this if you weren’t essentially self merging yourself rn
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Post Post #665 (ISO) » Tue Dec 31, 2019 5:38 pm

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Post Post #666 (ISO) » Tue Dec 31, 2019 5:38 pm

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Like what would you be doing differently after replacing scum!coneum?
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Post Post #667 (ISO) » Tue Dec 31, 2019 5:39 pm

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Duck what's your read on Menalque right now?
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Post Post #668 (ISO) » Tue Dec 31, 2019 5:41 pm

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In post 106, Iconeum wrote:
In post 101, Uncrowned wrote:It's not a random vote, so yeah.

I dislike the lack of commital to an actual vote. Emps jumped on the meme without actually doing anything.
In post 105, Uncrowned wrote:Because scum would rather be non-commital and not get involved in having to come up with BS explanations for their actions. If they're scum, this gives Emps an easy start to the game so they can read and react later on.

Too bad I called it out.
i like this thinking for town
early & reactive townread to Uncrowned's posting is quite far outside of scumconeum's m.o. but functions as telling of a solving mindset - as it happens i agree. ico didn't take the time to wait this out and check how his read would be received. you'll recall in AvP he played his reads very safe and quite close to Ali's; when I called him out on it instead of Ali, and explained why i felt his reads were wrong, ico didn't know how to react. scumconeum has reads for political benefit, townconeum has reads for solving benefit.
In post 107, Iconeum wrote:The entirety of HH's iso is reaking of scum

there's no real RVS - or at least not one with the eye on doing something
even the interaction with it's own slot feels S/S

it reads like it's holding back

i don't like it

VOTE: HH
this is ico on the attack; he's capable of looking assertive as scum but very rarely has the actual balls to out and be the first non-rvs vote on a wagon when he's not sure if it will have support. again this is an anti political read, it's a read he is earnest about. hh also presents to me as a scarier target than LAMIST who ico ~does~ take an opportunity to make an observation about, but (correctly) treats it as null despite it being optically poor:
In post 108, Iconeum wrote:LAMIST is doing his lamist thing again

so basically iconeum has voted a vocal contentious slot rather than a slot which if he was scum he's taken a moment to shade for being LAMIST
i think this vote is transparently nonpolitical

open this up for quotespam
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In post 116, Iconeum wrote:omgus vote much?
In post 117, Iconeum wrote:
In post 115, JJJ wrote:I wanna know what "real RVS" even is. I'm honestly kinda salty about that statement because that sounds like the weakest fake reason to vote someone I've ever heard.

-X
let's replace 'real' with genuine

that's probably more my point
In post 118, Iconeum wrote:
In post 112, JJJ wrote:Like damn. Everyone is in here joking around and multiple people have been less productive than our slot and Iconeum shitpushes us on some terrible/fake logic.

That doesn't sit right with me.

-X
no, i'm voting you because i have a feeling that your entire rvs phase so far feels ungenuine

do you have a problem with that?
In post 122, Iconeum wrote:this might be hard for you to understand

but

this is me, town!ico, being genuine


here we see HH on the defence like, far preemptively and iconeum rather than backing away or attempting to double down on what looks optically bad (the fact HH is on the defence too early) he's just laying down candid posts - it's a call to action for HH to stop having a tantrum about being voted and engage with the game in good faith, not an effort to make HH look bad.

this is a kind of abstract tell and quite difficult to impart but have you experienced "towny sass" much yet? ico has towny sass; scumconeum can be assertive and sometimes funny but he's rarely sharp and sassy

this exchange is towny sass

In post 134, Iconeum wrote:slightly more serious, AF is a townread so far as well
while stuck in an exchange with someone who's just not acting in good faith iconeum is still townhunting


i'm kinda confused people are looking at this and seeing the inverse tbh; in a vacuum this is a town iso
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Post Post #669 (ISO) » Tue Dec 31, 2019 5:43 pm

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In post 666, Menalque wrote:Like what would you be doing differently after replacing scum!coneum?
like tbh i'm a trashbag so 50/50 between
- lolhammering chemist and working out whether my slot is redeemable; if not then d2 claim i did it because i'm a tpr and didn't want to have to claim
- exactly what i'm doing now and given it'd be an incorrect pregame read on iconeum i'm not really sure how to convince you that it'd sound any less earnest or righteous
In post 667, AaronFrost wrote:Duck what's your read on Menalque right now?
i'm still kinda forming it; within the context of mena gonna say mildly towny but with a kinda big reservation
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Post Post #670 (ISO) » Tue Dec 31, 2019 5:45 pm

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Eh il not really convinced but I’ll look at it again sober I h’guess

I think you’re prob scum but just going to make me not lynch you like pb made me not lynch him in avp
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Post Post #671 (ISO) » Tue Dec 31, 2019 5:46 pm

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Wait why am I mildly towny?
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Post Post #672 (ISO) » Tue Dec 31, 2019 5:46 pm

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Did you iso me as well or is this based on interacting with me here?
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Post Post #673 (ISO) » Tue Dec 31, 2019 5:49 pm

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maybe reread scumconeum's iso from AVP lol like it was a very typical scumconeum iso and when you compare the two it's kinda glaring

anyway, i'll keep chipping away at ISOs when i can

emps i kinda have nearly no read on from skimming his iso very quickly and i'll revisit this later because i find him really easy to read lategame after above linked tw/ico/emps game : ]
first few posts of uncrowned iso are towncrowned, will check this later
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Post Post #674 (ISO) » Tue Dec 31, 2019 5:50 pm

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In post 672, Menalque wrote:Did you iso me as well or is this based on interacting with me here?
your iso is like 30% of the thread or smth so i'm never reading that in isolation, i'll just read the game thread when i can be bothered

based on our interactions here. you're seeking information which is town indicative but you're savagely tunnelled which is both AI, and not indicative of a particular alignment
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