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Post Post #675 (ISO) » Tue Dec 31, 2019 5:51 pm

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compare to that open game i'm forgetting the name of where you kinda just deposited opinions, lolcc'd skitter and lurked
there's a notable difference in the way your mind is operating, in a pinch i'm inclined to call it somewhat town indicative

if i have more than a pinch of time i'll start splitting facts open a bit more
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Post Post #676 (ISO) » Tue Dec 31, 2019 5:55 pm

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aldus' earlygame is emphatically not towny and he's kinda posting the way i post as scum earlygame
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Post Post #677 (ISO) » Tue Dec 31, 2019 5:56 pm

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aaron is probably town
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Post Post #678 (ISO) » Tue Dec 31, 2019 5:56 pm

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i'll bbl, full read will basically follow when i have time.

aaron, throw brain thoughts at me
chemist, get back to me
people tell me why you're voting chemist
mena have a reread of iconeum vs. avp scumconeum when you're sober; get back to me
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Post Post #679 (ISO) » Tue Dec 31, 2019 6:02 pm

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Happy New Year! Just hit midnight over here.

I'll throw some of my thoughts at you in a minute duck.
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Post Post #680 (ISO) » Tue Dec 31, 2019 6:04 pm

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happy new year mr. frost
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Post Post #681 (ISO) » Tue Dec 31, 2019 6:09 pm

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I’m kind of uncomfortable about you toe leaning me for my play here thus far
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Post Post #682 (ISO) » Tue Dec 31, 2019 6:09 pm

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Especially my actual interactions w u
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Post Post #683 (ISO) » Tue Dec 31, 2019 6:09 pm

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However

However


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Post Post #684 (ISO) » Tue Dec 31, 2019 6:12 pm

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how so? this is the type of read/interaction i can see town!you having and i can see that you're making the decision to double down until you're in a better state

my main reservations are that you shifted your vote (potential pocket) and that i feel your read on ico is a bit stubborn (might be tunnelling a key mislynch) but i can still see both of those just coming from town!you quite easily

i also feel like you're earnestly seeking a dialogue; is this a conversation scum!menaphos even has? post c9++ i don't really think it is


i guess i could see this as an expansion of your scumrange but i think it's somewhat more likely you're just earnest

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Post Post #685 (ISO) » Tue Dec 31, 2019 6:16 pm

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i guess the pocketing thing could be an area of concern But Not Really...?

my comment about loving you irl wasn't exactly a joke; i harbour no negativity towards you and happen to also think you're town so i can see how me just engaging with you here might look like a pocket attempt - the only thing i'd like you to consider is that there's basically no other way this conversation would go down
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Post Post #686 (ISO) » Tue Dec 31, 2019 6:16 pm

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unless i wanted to MURDER you
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Post Post #687 (ISO) » Tue Dec 31, 2019 6:21 pm

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In post 678, the worst wrote:aaron, throw brain thoughts at me
So basically here's where I'm at.

I'm agree that Icon was pretty town. The read was starting to diminish but I think that was in part to it being V/LA for a while and not answering the questions directed towards it. I'm willing to give you the benefit of the doubt that you were legitimately tring Icon before you repped in.

Not sure I'm seeing Mena as town here. I think his read on Icon is incredibly surface-level and don't like how he's tunneling the slot after your replace-in. Now I haven't played with scum Mena but town Mena is usually pretty confident on his reads, which is something that I think scum Mena can fake easily. I'm gonna say that his posting on the past few pages is NAI due to him being drunk though.

Chemist is sort of a null-scum read for me and Mena's been hard protecting him most of the day as well. I felt like his recent Aldus vote was sketchy as well.
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Post Post #688 (ISO) » Tue Dec 31, 2019 6:23 pm

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want me to hammer chemist and see how the cards fall?
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Post Post #689 (ISO) » Tue Dec 31, 2019 6:24 pm

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Not particularly. We still have 2 and a half days.
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Post Post #690 (ISO) » Tue Dec 31, 2019 6:25 pm

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i could still kinda just see this as town!mena tbh - the way he's gone back and forth with me and the way he's reconsidering but unsettled looks like reconsideration and i tend to lean into "if this can come from town, it's more likely to be coming from town" until doubts start to surface. i think i can still just see this being town!mena.

also from the scum meta i've seen i think mena actually struggles with confidence in reads without them looking kinda dopey; i'm hoping for a more insightful reevaluation of my slot tbh. the postcount thing is pretty minor but i also feel like scum!him is a lot less comfortable just posting free-flowing thoughts :/
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Post Post #691 (ISO) » Tue Dec 31, 2019 6:26 pm

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good answer.
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Post Post #692 (ISO) » Tue Dec 31, 2019 6:28 pm

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There might be some kind of association with Mena/Chemist depending on how it flips but I'm not sure if Mena hard defends his buddy like that.

PEDIT: Again I don't know his scum meta too well. I can see where you're coming from with your read on him but I'm not sure I agree atm.
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Post Post #693 (ISO) » Tue Dec 31, 2019 6:30 pm

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I'll def have to check out his scumgame though.
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Post Post #694 (ISO) » Tue Dec 31, 2019 6:30 pm

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that's fair; i'm not confident enough that i'd call it a god read and demand to be sheeped for all of time. just a feeling aorn

what's your feeling on aldus? i haven't dived him yet but don't rate his early iso and if chem/me are t/t and we're doing a terrible job then--
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Official Vote Count 1.16With 9 votes in play, it takes 5 to lynch.

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Post Post #695 (ISO) » Tue Dec 31, 2019 6:33 pm

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Post Post #696 (ISO) » Tue Dec 31, 2019 6:33 pm

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mmm hmmm hrm
i might not be giving his scumgame as much credit as it deserves

in avp his scum meta was very underdevelopped so we gave him a super clean metaclear
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Post Post #697 (ISO) » Tue Dec 31, 2019 6:35 pm

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That's a slot I need to revisit soon. I was initially SRing him early on but grew less confident in that read over time and he eventually moved up to null territory.
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Post Post #698 (ISO) » Tue Dec 31, 2019 6:58 pm

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Ugh I have no proof but the worst's reads just feel... convenient. Like, he's townreading Menalque which is a decent way to buddy him into not voting the worst anymore. Meanwhile he's positioning himself into a scumread on me which has obvious benefits for him. Menalque, be careful because I think there's a good chance that the worst is trying to pocket you.

I also don't like how the worst hasn't addressed at all Icon's fake L-1 vote or asking me to claim. Feels like he's trying to change what people look at in Icon's iso to stuff that's easier for the worst to defend.

And furthermore the worst is like "if I were scum I'd just lolhammer chemist" and then in post 688 asks if he should just lolhammer chemist. You can't use not lolhammering as evidence that you're town and then be like "ok but can I do it anyway?" On top of that, Autumnal Mafia had two lolhammers and both of them got lynched.
In post 694, the worst wrote: what's your feeling on aldus? i haven't dived him yet but don't rate his early iso and if chem/me are t/t and we're doing a terrible job then--

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what if all the wagons are on town
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Post Post #699 (ISO) » Tue Dec 31, 2019 7:00 pm

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In post 698, Alduskkel wrote:On top of that, Autumnal Mafia had two lolhammers and both of them got lynched.
to clarify, the hammerers got lynched

so there's definite scum motivation to NOT lolhammer
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