Newbie 1973 | Mountain | Over

[PenguinPower]

[Ph0enix]

Hi, Penguin.

[PenguinPower]

Go ahead and cross vote Alora.

[PenguinPower]

That was kinda mean birdfriend.

[Ph0enix]

Go ahead and cross vote Alora.

Because?

[Ph0enix]

That was kinda mean birdfriend.

Birds have to support each other, you know.

[PenguinPower]

You’re conf!town now?

[PenguinPower]

Unless you’re trolling scum, but I don’t see why scum!you wouldn’t hammer there.

[Ph0enix]

Unless you’re trolling scum, but I don’t see why scum!you wouldn’t hammer there.

I think you answered your own question.

[PenguinPower]

I know I did. It’s called a hammer test. I was explaining why Alora has to crossvote from their POV.

[Ph0enix]

Why would you vote as Town, though?

[Plotinus]

Official Vote Count 4.01

Eiger, Bernese Alps, Switzerland

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Lynching

With 3 votes in play, it takes 2 to lynch.

Aloratom

(1): PenguinPower

Not Voting

(2): Ph0enix, Aloratom

Deadline:

(expired on 2020-01-07 16:45:00).

Mod notes:

Wednesday counts as weekend for prod purposes then we'll be back to normal.[/area]

[PenguinPower]

I pretty much explained my stance in 668. I don’t see a world where you are scum over Alora, so I was willing to bet the game on it via a hammer test instead of waiting.

[Ph0enix]

I pretty much explained my stance in 668. I don’t see a world where you are scum over Alora, so I was willing to bet the game on it via a hammer test instead of waiting.

Great, but how am I supposed to interpret your vote now:

As Town: you are 100% sure I'm not scum. I, however, don't know which one of you is Town and which one - scum. In this case, it would've been better to not vote, because you are the only one who has information to gain from it, and if you're so sure I'm scum, why bother? The move now just makes me want to consider the other scenario:

As Scum: You know we both are Town, you are putting up a facade. Makes more sense than if you're Town, in case I take the bait that you were "worried" and awaiting my vote (or lack thereof), which you obviously couldn't care less about if you were Scum, unless you are considering the scenario where I, as Town, vote Alora now. I really hope that if you are scum you haven't considered that a realistic option.

[PenguinPower]

I mean - you're going to have to figure out which one of Alora/I is scum regardless of if I voted you or not.

FYPOV it's me or Alora. From Alora's POV it's me or you. FMPOV it was you or Alora. I made the decision that you were unlikely to be scum, and you've now been removed from the pool, which places the decision squarely on you and eliminates you as a potential lynch option. If I am scum, why would I eliminate you as a potential option?

[PenguinPower]

Someone has to be the first to vote at some point, so if you're upset that you didn't get any benefit from me voting first...I'm sorry?

[Aloratom]

I just want to quickly address Aloratom's point as to why I unvoted Gyro so long after the follow-up votes from Cheeky and PP. It may sound like an oddly convenient explanation, but by the time Cheeky and PP voted I was asleep and unvoted as soon as I came back. Will read PP's and Aloratom's posts in more detail soon.

Also, Happy New Year! <3

Looking back on the timestamps, this makes sense. I didn't think to look at that before. I guess that would have saved me a lot of grief, and maybe saved me here.

I just woke up, and I've caught up on this morning's postings. I really don't have much new to say or add to what I posted last night. Penguin working to swing Ph0enix to hammer me and Penguin's vote tells me all I need to know. I have no choice to vote Penguin, which is what I was going to do this morning anyway. And that leaves the decision in Ph0enix's hands. I'm going to review a bit more to see if there's anything I can say to convince Ph0enix to vote Penguin, but I don't know if there is. If you have any questions for me Ph0enix, let me know. Otherwise, good luck in your analysis.

VOTE: Penguin

[Ph0enix]

I mean - you're going to have to figure out which one of Alora/I is scum regardless of if I voted you or not.

That's the point.

FYPOV it's me or Alora. From Alora's POV it's me or you. FMPOV it was you or Alora. I made the decision that you were unlikely to be scum, and you've now been removed from the pool, which places the decision squarely on you and eliminates you as a potential lynch option. If I am scum, why would I eliminate you as a potential option?

Because Alora most probably wouldn't vote me anyway and you are willing to risk it in order to gain my trust. I was never a lynch option. Placing the decision on me and making me question your alignment at the same time - that's a good combination.

[PenguinPower]

I can't really refute that point.

All I can say is look at what I said about the Alora slot. Vote record and stances player's left alive really tell it all.

[Ph0enix]

VOTE: PenguinPower

[PenguinPower]

Well played Alora.

[PenguinPower]

Sorry guys, but I though that Alora would have been obv!scum at this point.

[Aloratom]

Good game. That was fun. A bit stressful at the end, but fun.

[PenguinPower]

Plot finally deserves

[PenguinPower]

a pagetop