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[Wake1]

you thought zote slot (eve) was the partner

but voted elements to 'get them out of your way'

I'm allowed to be uncertain. And I'm allowed to be wrong at times.

You may not know this, but I can be ruthless, even as Town.

I don't play the stupid "you must be this this this and this to be Town" game. Most of that shit is bullshit and Scum can just emulate it to look the Towniest of Town.

[UltimatePlank]

i mean tbh snippets like that post about zote were the thing that made me think yeah okay maybe you're just low activity town

lol, i actually consider day1 the most informative day to re-read in games and shitty activity and low effort on day1 to be the most infuriating annoying thing

lylo's a bigger crapshoot than any day1 will ever be, everything is basically wifom and the game is won or lost on a coin-toss. i consider basically fuckall said in lylo to hold any-meaning

[UltimatePlank]

i don't think scum can emulate it over a game that goes to 3p lylo

if a game gets to 3p lylo it's always just a bunch of contentious slots, like this

[UltimatePlank]

man why are we discussing abstract mafia theory in a fucking lylo

[Wake1]

i mean tbh snippets like that post about zote were the thing that made me think yeah okay maybe you're just low activity town

lol, i actually consider day1 the most informative day to re-read in games and shitty activity and low effort on day1 to be the most infuriating annoying thing

lylo's a bigger crapshoot than any day1 will ever be, everything is basically wifom and the game is won or lost on a coin-toss. i consider basically fuckall said in lylo to hold any-meaning

I guess we just play the game differently.

As Town, I hate Day 1. With no flips and no evidence all it is is conjecture. I get that there are times you can get the players talking and start having patterns develop that can be looked on later. I don't know. I tend to play selfishly as Town, and I do get that that can be a problem. I think this LYLO is particularly hard because half of the Scumteam died Day 1, so we're basically totally deprived of Scum associations most of this game. It's been more or less like trying to hunt an SK instead.

[Wake1]

i don't think scum can emulate it over a game that goes to 3p lylo

if a game gets to 3p lylo it's always just a bunch of contentious slots, like this

I think some certainly can, which is a scary thing.

Basically if you're Town I'm hoping I can find a way to connect with you and hopefully win this game together.

I don't know which of you is Scum. I'm always doubting myself as Town, while I watch more confident players mislynch Town.

[Wake1]

Plank, if you are Town, what do you think about Alimdia re-checking my Night 3 Loyal Jailkeeper claim for format accuracy? "Town Night 3 Loyal Jailkeeper."

Initially I had told Alimdia it was a Night 3 1-shot Jailkeeper. I had then posted I misread it, and corrected it.

Does that sound more like a Scumslip or a Townslip to you?

it sounds like wifom to me

I don't think it is.

Look at the other role PMs.

I get that I'm kinda playing cheaply as Town by pointing at the role PM formatting, but if it can help in netting a Town win I don't see an issue with it.

[UltimatePlank]

anyway i need to nap

im not unvoting, im thoroughly exhausted of this game and win or lose i dont want to prolong it any further.

if im wrong well gg whatever

again no idea why tf these are things that you suddenly want to discuss at the point of lylo when it's fucking meaningless instead of having these conversations on earlier days?

and yes, this whole game has had a lack of associative tells, nice of you to suddenly have thoughts about the game when it's basically too late to help? real cool i guess? dunno what you even want me to say at this point

where was this wake on previous days and how do you expect me to give you a pass for doing none of this during the actual important parts of the game?

insanity

[Wake1]

anyway i need to nap

im not unvoting, im thoroughly exhausted of this game and win or lose i dont want to prolong it any further.

if im wrong well gg whatever

again no idea why tf these are things that you suddenly want to discuss at the point of lylo when it's fucking meaningless instead of having these conversations on earlier days?

and yes, this whole game has had a lack of associative tells, nice of you to suddenly have thoughts about the game when it's basically too late to help? real cool i guess? dunno what you even want me to say at this point

where was this wake on previous days and how do you expect me to give you a pass for doing none of this during the actual important parts of the game?

insanity

While the timing isn't that great, are we too late?

[Wake1]

Could you please at least unvote to buy us some time just in case Eve is Scum?

[Wake1]

Plank, I noticed you were on the Looker wagon even when he was hammered.

I don't think Scum-Plank would have bussed his partner Day 1, especially if there were only two of you.

[UltimatePlank]

like

why are you cooperative with me ONLY in lylo when under pressure all of a sudden if you're town?

the rest of the game you're barely interested in working with anyone

from a town POV the game is always hanging in the balance and i can't even see a world where this makes any sense as town. i'm trying really hard to figure out if this is one of those things where you're a town player who just does completely irrational and illogical shit because no real reason

but it's veryfuckinghard to tell because even the most...'unique' players tend to have some kind of twisted logic behind their play that they think is helping the game.

wtf have u even done

[UltimatePlank]

UNVOTE: Wake88

[UltimatePlank]

okay

tell me how you have approached this game with a town mindset

im gonna take a nap, and then when i wake up ill read it.

[Wake1]

I'm trying to figure this game out and if you're Town I desperately need you to be willing to work with me. I am chaotic, and things just happen as they do. There is no set order to things with me.

In 402 you voted Looker. You did eventually hop off on 539, but went back on 625.

If you were Scum would you really have done that? You wouldn't have had to have bussed.

This makes me think you're Town. I don't see a 2-man Scumteam bussing Day 1 when it could have been easily prevented.

And I don't think Eve was being sarcastic, either, about role-claiming. I was too hasty in hammering Elements.

[Eve]

ugh

i voted elements because i thought his tunneling on Plank was fake

Wake is probably just scum and i'm being paranoid - at least i can blame everyone else in this game that was townreading plank and scumreading wake if we lose

[Eve]

oh there's ages left till the deadline

sigh guess i won't vote just yet then if you want to try and convince me wake

[Eve]

but right now i'm not liking you were so close to "gambling" voting for Plank and are now convincing him that i'm scum

[Montosh]

VC 7.1

Not voting (3):

Eve, UltimatePlank, Wake88

With 3 alive, it takes 2 to lynch

Deadline: (expired on 2020-01-08 12:00:00)

[Wake1]

but right now i'm not liking you were so close to "gambling" voting for Plank and are now convincing him that i'm scum

Well, I

am

allowed to change my mind as the game progresses, and I'm not particularly concerned with your not liking it if you're Scum.

[Wake1]

I don't see UltimatePlank bussing his only Scum partner Day 1.

There's no real advantage for Scum to do that, unless it's one of those rare Hail Mary moves where you bus your only partner Day 1. How often does that really happen though? And doesn't Scum have Daytalk? If UP were Scum and bussing Looker, they'd both have to be very confident Day 1 that UP would get all the way through this game to the End. Doesn't it sound like a stretch? Not saying it's impossible, but what are the odds? What seems more likely? If anything UP does feel like at-odds-with-me Town than Scum who is in my blind spot.

I'm going to have to take a chance.

VOTE: Eve

[Wake1]

ugh

i voted elements because i thought his tunneling on Plank was fake

Wake is probably just scum and i'm being paranoid - at least i can blame everyone else in this game that was townreading plank and scumreading wake if we lose

I need you to be more specific than that.

What exactly were the things about Elements tunneling on Plank felt fake to you?

[UltimatePlank]

VOTE: Eve

gg

[UltimatePlank]

sorry

[Wake1]

VOTE: Eve

gg

sorry

*sigh*

I'm assuming you were Scum?