Newbie 1976 - Game Over

[Xtoxm]

Ph0enix replaces JacksonVirgo. You are the best bird!

VC 1.6

[3] GayBabyJailor:

Saladman27, NorwegianboyEE, Naerys

[2] Ph0enix:

Map Wolf, Non Imh

[1] Naerys:

GayBabyJailor

[3] Not Voting:

Ph0enix, Kanna, Datisi

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch

The Day 1 deadline is in

: (expired on 2020-01-07 07:39:44)

[Ph0enix]

Ph0enix replaces JacksonVirgo. You are the best bird!

Awww <3

Hello everyone, catching up is in progress.

[Map Wolf]

Welcome to the game. Thanks for replacing in.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Hi <3
Tell me when you’re ready to vote GBJ.

[Naerys]

*sigh*
VOTE: Jackson
L1

I don’t know if i like the way you worded this vote. Why are you sighing in like half of your posts?

It is just 2 out of 7. But anyway Non seems like person, that does not wish to be noticed.

i just noticed this
what does "2 ot of 7" mean pretty please? <3

2 posts with sighing out of 7 Non´s posts

[Naerys]

Ph0enix replaces JacksonVirgo. You are the best bird!

Awww <3

Hello everyone, catching up is in progress.

Welcome

[Ph0enix]

So, a couple of initial thoughts:

The vote on GBJ from MapWolf in 35 is the first thing that disturbed me. RVS is fine, but putting someone that hasn't posted yet at L-2 is a bit much for my taste. I think, however, there has been a misunderstanding when it comes to Norwegian interpreting MapWolf's post. To me it didn't seem like he was actually that eager to vote GBJ, he just phrased it that way, so that's not something to go off of.

The accusations against Norway that followed, however, were unfounded, I find. Especially when it comes to Kanna's post 56. I don't see anything wrong with the push, how are you supposed to gain information on D1 otherwise? Though, I will agree that Norway saying that MapWolf could be suspicious because he started by making excuses is debatable. You are pushing the guy from the start, of course he's going to want to explain himself.

Datisi (62): "Voting someone who put someone else at L-2 two pages in is very "easy to jump on, super convincing and convenient" imo. Yeah, sure, putting them at L-2 that fast is weird. Why is it scum-indicative?"

It's not scum-indicative necessarily, but you did agree it's weird. Also, there's a difference between a "I vote you in order to lynch you" vote and a "I vote you in order to see how you react" vote. I believe we're talking about the latter here.

Norway (68): "Feel like scum!him would have voted me there rather than just defending and taking the opportunity to also criticize Datisi."

Not necessarily.

GBJ (77): "haha yes getting to L-2 before youve posted is aaaaa; i missed out on rvs how sad; dont like post 75 (proceeds to vote Norwegian)"

Wait, what??? Your "explanation" in the posts after doesn't help, either.

Wolf (90): "Don't really like 67 and 75. I don't see how GBJ finding you suspicious makes him scum."

Well, his suspicion is unfounded by that point, so...


That's it for now. Will post again very soon, readslist included.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Do you wanna claim Jackaroo?

This post is awful. jackson was being pushed for pressure, it wasn’t a "time to lynch the player" vote. Yet you’re fishing for a PR claim.
Saladman, any reason you shouldn’t become an policy lynch in the immediate future assuming GBJ isn’t scum?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Do you wanna claim Jackaroo?

[4] JacksonVirgo: Datisi, NorwegianboyEE, Map Wolf, Non Imh (L-1)

Oh and know what makes this worse? Saladman wasn't even on the wagon, nor did he signal intent that he would hammer or vote Jackson in the future.
VOTE: Saladman27

[Ph0enix]

Readslist:

NorwegianBoyEE

Actively trying to generate discussion, pushing people left and right, making the occasional controversial post like 75 in order to see how people react (at least that's how I see the reasoning behind it). I don't think he's given me a reason to worry so far. -

Leaning Town

Naerys

Starts off problematic, not contributing much, the response to Wolf's vote in 174 didn't help either. She's trying to make sense in later posts, but most of what I see is defensive. -

Leaning Scum - subject to change; I need to hear more from said player

GBJ

I don't know what's going on there but it's questionable. The vote on Norway speaks for itself, I believe. Doesn't provide reasons for his reads, has the audacity to say that Salad has contributed anything, even though GBJ hadn't contributed anything, either. Posted readslist twice with no reasoning behind it. I don't know, it all rubs me the wrong way. -

Leaning Scum

The others are null reads for now, I guess I will need to reread once more there. Non Imh in particular is acting really weird, idk.

[Ph0enix]

Whenever there's L-1 I want to get a claim before a loljammer

@Norway: I interpret that as an intent to hammer on his part.

[Ph0enix]

oh boy time to feign activity by posting reads lists
{datisi/map wolf/kanna/non imh}
{jackson/norwegian}
{naerys/saladman}

Could you elaborate on that?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Actually i want GJB's slot first. But Saladman is a close second.
VOTE: GBJ

Phoenix i like your entry, but am i really your only townread? Feels kinda like you're playing it safe. I'm obviously the easiest person to townread around here.

[NorwegianboyEE]

@Phoenix
What is your opinion on Datisi for example?

[Ph0enix]

I'm obviously the easiest person to townread around here.

Damn right.

Most of the others that I don't have a read on currently have a thing or two that concern me about them, hence why I'm hesitant to put them in the townreads as of now, for example:

Datisi and Kanna's push on you in the beginning when you voted Wolf. I disagree with his statement that the vote was "convenient". I probably wouldn't have voted in that case but I would at least have asked them to elaborate. Then again, a vote could be more effective in that case. I also don't like the response from Kanna in 65. Given the fact that the reason for your vote was that Map Wolf put GBJ at L-2 before him posting, how is that a reason that "fell off"?

The sole reason I'm not sold on Map Wolf is his first vote. Other than that he's fine.

From the other two I haven't heard that much.

[Datisi]

Ph0enix, is that the only thing bothering you about my slot?

[Ph0enix]

So in 260 Salad says that the only slot he's scumreading by that point is Non's. In 281, though, he pushes my slot to claim and 311 I interpret as an intent to hammer. It seems there is a bit of a contradiction here.

@Salad, if Non was your only scumread, why didn't you push Non's slot or convince the others that what follows may be a mislynch, given that you didn't find my slot scummy? You don't question Datisi's answer to your question in 260, either, even though the answer was "things and stuff". You didn't ask Norway to elaborate on his answer, either. You just deemed the answers to be satisfactory, for some reason.

@Norway: What was concerning you when it comes to my slot?

Also, Map Wolf and Non Imh were quick to hop on the Jackson wagon as well. Hmm...

p-edit: @Datisi: Your answer in 261 as well.

[NorwegianboyEE]

@Norway: What was concerning you when it comes to my slot?

Low content, not much for me to base a read on. Therefore i wanted to put some pressure on the slot.

[Ph0enix]

@Norway: What was concerning you when it comes to my slot?

Low content, not much for me to base a read on. Therefore i wanted to put some pressure on the slot.

Yeah, that's fair.

[NorwegianboyEE]

oh yeah, and all those "om i'm so busyy~" posts that worried me. But since she replaced i'm thinking she was honest about it.

[Datisi]

I suggest not looking at why they possible replaced out as an AI thing.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Everything is AI.

[Ph0enix]

ive never seen map wolf start a wagon as town, only jump on other wagons
seems that's whats happening here too
this means i tr map wolf

Where's the logic here?

[Ph0enix]

also Norwegian is either PR or scum to me

Why PR specifically?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Phoenix, how long have you been playing mafia?
Before joining here?