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Post Post #250 (ISO) » Fri Jan 03, 2020 9:37 am

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Post Post #251 (ISO) » Fri Jan 03, 2020 9:47 am

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No you don't Klick, I've hardly posted enough to be anything. ヾ(=^・ェ・^)ヾ(^^ ) Stop being a dorky baka, I'm fairly confident you're town. I generally read the thread before posting but it didn't seem important enough to go back.

You know, my style has never been to pick people and hard attack them, I prefer finding townies and voting people that aren't as high on the list. Maybe that kind of thing's gone out of style but if you're looking for me to hard scum read someone I don't really do that unless I'm really sure about it. My question to Kerset is serious tbh because its one of the weirdest feelings I've ever had after someone posted at me.
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Post Post #252 (ISO) » Fri Jan 03, 2020 9:49 am

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In post 238, Klick wrote:
In post 193, mastina wrote:
In post 190, Menalque wrote:Can we win
Easy win: don't fucking lynch one of the best damn players in the game who is one of your key power roles. :P
I'm just confused about this being something you consider posting while also making this push, considering your respect for RC's play:
In post 165, mastina wrote:AlsoVOTE: Bitmap.
This is rc coaching a scumbuddy on how to play scum. :]
In post 191, mastina wrote:
In post 170, Bitmap wrote:mastina, trying to lynch my hydra out of the game on D1 is very pro-scum.
Sorry but fearmongering off of RC's scumhunting prowess in a game that is this stacked with talented players isn't something which will keep me from pursuing scumreads.
Because both you and hito are missing context; Menalque understands what I was referring to and given that I was speaking to Mena, I had no need to clarify because the intended recipient of my message understands without such a need.
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Post Post #253 (ISO) » Fri Jan 03, 2020 9:50 am

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In post 251, Shadoweh wrote:No you don't Klick, I've hardly posted enough to be anything. ヾ(=^・ェ・^)ヾ(^^ ) Stop being a dorky baka, I'm fairly confident you're town. I generally read the thread before posting but it didn't seem important enough to go back.

You know, my style has never been to pick people and hard attack them, I prefer finding townies and voting people that aren't as high on the list. Maybe that kind of thing's gone out of style but if you're looking for me to hard scum read someone I don't really do that unless I'm really sure about it. My question to Kerset is serious tbh because its one of the weirdest feelings I've ever had after someone posted at me.
So who are your town reads atm, unless I missed something?
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Post Post #254 (ISO) » Fri Jan 03, 2020 9:52 am

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In post 245, Jingle wrote:I can dig it.

VOTE: Shadoweh
I changed my mind; the ambivalence about Shadoweh has changed from no lean into a townlean. :shifty:
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Post Post #255 (ISO) » Fri Jan 03, 2020 9:53 am

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Post Post #256 (ISO) » Fri Jan 03, 2020 9:57 am

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BTW to give a brief rundown of the scumread on Bitmap, from strongest reason to weakest:
Blatant projection (guilty of the very thing Bitmap was accusing hito of to a degree far, far more blatant and worse than any of hito's), gut from the chosen approach to the game, where Bitmap is focusing, respect for RC's competency, and vague but most definitely unreliable memory of meta (this not being how I remember Bitmap being as town/feeling like what I remember as being closer to Bitmaps scumgame but as I said, this is weakest for damn good reason).
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Post Post #257 (ISO) » Fri Jan 03, 2020 9:58 am

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Did anyone else find page 3-4 between Jingle and jj to be odd or just me?
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Post Post #258 (ISO) » Fri Jan 03, 2020 9:59 am

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In post 252, mastina wrote:Because both you and hito are missing context; Menalque understands what I was referring to and given that I was speaking to Mena, I had no need to clarify because the intended recipient of my message understands without such a need.
I don't see how this addresses the apparent inconsistency? Maybe it wasn't clear enough.

Mastina: 'Don't vote out one of the best players in this game'
Also Mastina: 'I have a ton of respect for RC as a player'
Also Mastina: 'We should vote RC's teammate Day 1'
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Post Post #259 (ISO) » Fri Jan 03, 2020 10:04 am

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In post 256, mastina wrote:respect for RC's competency
This is where everyone in the thread laughs because they know I'm a big RC fanboi if he's town or on my team. In my last scum game, I did everything to discredit RC and un-legitimize his reads. Try again.
In post 256, mastina wrote:and vague but most definitely unreliable memory of meta (this not being how I remember Bitmap being as town/feeling like what I remember as being closer to Bitmaps scumgame but as I said, this is weakest for damn good reason).
Nice lie. This is the first mafia game I've ever played with you.
https://forum.mafiascum.net/search.php? ... r_id=28641

2078 was anyone can post so I went in there memeing.
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Post Post #260 (ISO) » Fri Jan 03, 2020 10:05 am

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In post 253, Bitmap wrote:
So who are your town reads atm, unless I missed something?
On the one hand, I'm not unwilling to spell this out again (probably later when I'm able to get on discord and compare some more notes) but majimeta are you saying you can't look back at my posts and see some clear answers to this question?
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Post Post #261 (ISO) » Fri Jan 03, 2020 10:06 am

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In post 260, Shadoweh wrote:
In post 253, Bitmap wrote:
So who are your town reads atm, unless I missed something?
On the one hand, I'm not unwilling to spell this out again (probably later when I'm able to get on discord and compare some more notes) but majimeta are you saying you can't look back at my posts and see some clear answers to this question?
I'm not good at reading weeb anymore so when you get the chance, please elaborate more. Thanks.
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Post Post #262 (ISO) » Fri Jan 03, 2020 10:09 am

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In post 184, Shadoweh wrote:ofrhz is prob town
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Post Post #263 (ISO) » Fri Jan 03, 2020 10:13 am

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In post 251, Shadoweh wrote:No you don't Klick, I've hardly posted enough to be anything. ヾ(=^・ェ・^)ヾ(^^ ) Stop being a dorky baka, I'm fairly confident you're town. I generally read the thread before posting but it didn't seem important enough to go back.

You know, my style has never been to pick people and hard attack them, I prefer finding townies and voting people that aren't as high on the list. Maybe that kind of thing's gone out of style but if you're looking for me to hard scum read someone I don't really do that unless I'm really sure about it. My question to Kerset is serious tbh because its one of the weirdest feelings I've ever had after someone posted at me.
To be specific, I feel like there's a decent chance your teammates told you to come post last night so that you'd have some content out there and look good (as opposed to going and finding the scums). That's what's pinged me early about you.

Sorry, by 'scumhunting' I just meant solving in general. My style is usually townhunting too tbf. I just want to see some Shadow thoughts because you're someone I'd feel comfortable and confident chatting things out with.
So I also want to see your townreads! But like, yours specifically, your team is nice and all but I want to know what you think. You're reading me as town - who else?
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Post Post #264 (ISO) » Fri Jan 03, 2020 10:17 am

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I think Klick is leaning town.
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Post Post #265 (ISO) » Fri Jan 03, 2020 10:19 am

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I find it extremely funny that mastina said that Klick is the weakest out of his team but still doing a better job than mastina.
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Post Post #266 (ISO) » Fri Jan 03, 2020 10:36 am

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In post 220, Kerset wrote:Mena and jingle are like school bullies, who
bully bitmap because he has famous relative
. It feels like excuse to make a push rather then accurate one.
Are you talking about them asking for RC's reads in the bolded? Why is that scummy?

It makes sense to ask a known, strong player for their reads.

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Post Post #267 (ISO) » Fri Jan 03, 2020 10:41 am

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In post 256, mastina wrote:guilty of the very thing Bitmap was accusing hito of to a degree far
What accusation?
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Post Post #268 (ISO) » Fri Jan 03, 2020 10:42 am

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I think it's town indicative for Shadoweh that Krazy is reading this game. Last team game he played in, Krazy's partner was scum, and he didn't bother reading his partner's game.
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Post Post #269 (ISO) » Fri Jan 03, 2020 10:48 am

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In post 258, Klick wrote:
In post 252, mastina wrote:Because both you and hito are missing context; Menalque understands what I was referring to and given that I was speaking to Mena, I had no need to clarify because the intended recipient of my message understands without such a need.
I don't see how this addresses the apparent inconsistency? Maybe it wasn't clear enough.

Mastina: 'Don't vote out one of the best players in this game'
Also Mastina: 'I have a ton of respect for RC as a player'
Also Mastina: 'We should vote RC's teammate Day 1'
There's no inconsistency.
I was talking to Menalque and making a reference.
I do hold a ton of respect for RC as a player.
But RC is not the player in this game and even if he were he isn't one of the best town players in the game; Jingle, jjh, hito, and maybes in the form of Shadoweh and Menalque are all his equals or superiors.
And even if he were.
Even if he was the best town player in the game.
My initial statement was making a reference to something for Mena; it is not something directly applicable to my stances this game. Because. Like I said. I was talking to Mena specifically there. Making a reference Mena would understand. A reference directed to a specific playwr , is obviously not something which will reflect my stances this game.

That should've been obvious enough.
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Post Post #270 (ISO) » Fri Jan 03, 2020 10:50 am

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In post 267, ofrhz wrote:
In post 256, mastina wrote:guilty of the very thing Bitmap was accusing hito of to a degree far
What accusation?
Can't multiquote on my phone, but next post should be plenty proof:
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Post Post #271 (ISO) » Fri Jan 03, 2020 10:51 am

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@mastina:


Message from RC:
He wants you to shut up about him or else he's going to proxy play this game.
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Post Post #272 (ISO) » Fri Jan 03, 2020 10:53 am

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In post 143, Bitmap wrote:hito is trying way too hard to be town and his tone sounds like scum trying to look town.

I asked him about Jingle but he told me he's too busy playing Fire Emblem.
Guess what Bitmap has been doing?
Exactly what Bitmap accused hito of doing:
Trying way, way, WAY too hard to look town, without actually being town.

Bitmap is doing a bunch of :busywork:, but none of it is actually scumhunting, none of it is sincere. It reeks of being scum trying to look town by putting effort in, but it is very, very obviously forced.
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Post Post #273 (ISO) » Fri Jan 03, 2020 10:54 am

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In post 271, Bitmap wrote:
@mastina:


Message from RC:
He wants you to shut up about him or else he's going to proxy play this game.
@everyone:
If you don't want RC to proxy play this game, RC said please make mastina stfu.
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Post Post #274 (ISO) » Fri Jan 03, 2020 10:57 am

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Anyways, back to the game.
In post 268, ofrhz wrote:I think it's town indicative for Shadoweh that Krazy is reading this game. Last team game he played in, Krazy's partner was scum, and he didn't bother reading his partner's game.
I think it's more important for teams to secure their town wins rather than their scum wins. Losing a town game hurts the team by a lot so it's actually reasonable to have more effort

I kind of want to vote Jingle or jj. Jingle has been opportunity voting this whole entire game and pages 3-4 make me think it's TvS or SvS. I'm starting to agree with you on the whole Shadoweh read but I'd like some thoughts on Jingle and jj.
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