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[Volpe14]

Only 2 out of 5 people in my read list had said anything negative about me and you summarize my read list as "people going after me", you derail the thread without reading it properly etc.

You were one of the reasons Oka didn't happen in Colors and here I've no reason to let you stay around apparently either if you were town (which I think you aren't right now).

This kind of bullshit you keep spraying all over the thread is one of those petty things you do as scum and I've no patience in dealing with you anymore if you're town. I really tried to be understanding but you just keep scumming it up.

I don't think it can be written off as coincidence anymore.

[Volpe14]

I think you're just scum that thought it would be cool to turn the tables on me or something and my unique regret is to have give you space instead of insta omgus'ing

[Volpe14]

I'm gonna take back my scum reads on mariar, ank or whatever for now. I'm just killing you today FL.

Or maybe you're killing me, which actually right now sounds more likely.

But /shrug

[Flavor Leaf]

Volpe’s just putting on a show now.

He automatically assumed that the line of me saying he was just pushing whoever was voting him was scummier, but i specifically stated around that time that I was less into the push now than before.

I thought that was townier of him to do, because I do that as town, but he stuck with it because he felt pressured.

[Volpe14]

I'm putting show lol

No you just said scummy shit to try to make me look bad when consensus opinion on me was changing.

I don't care if you're more or less to the push now FL

NO SANE TOWN SAYS THAT A 2/5 OF A READ LIST IS MAJORITY. THAT JUST DOESN'T HAPPEN.

[Flavor Leaf]

I'm gonna take back my scum reads on mariar, ank or whatever for now. I'm just killing you today FL.

Or maybe you're killing me, which actually right now sounds more likely.

But /shrug

If I were scum, I never get lynched here. Just saying.

Anyone who knows me knows this is true, so you kill me, that’s a mislynch, that probably ends in your Lynch tomorrow, which is scummy of you again.

[Flavor Leaf]

I'm putting show lol

No you just said scummy shit to try to make me look bad when consensus opinion on me was changing.

I don't care if you're more or less to the push now FL

NO SANE TOWN SAYS THAT A 2/5 OF A READ LIST IS MAJORITY. THAT JUST DOESN'T HAPPEN.

You know I’m literally the most not sane town on site, right?

[Volpe14]

You clearly said that to discredit my whole read list without bothering to give a credible here and I don't give a fuck what you say to be honest, you biggest trait as scum is saying random nonsense bullshit and pushing it as reasonable

It's not reasonable, saying that about my read list just shows your mindset of trying to discredit me rather than reading me.

You're dying today, or you're killing me.

There's like, two options.

[Volpe14]

If I were scum, I never get lynched here. Just saying.

LOL

[Volpe14]

I've faith that people here knows mathematics and realize that you saying 2/5 of my scum leans are majority is pretty scummy though FL.

Then like, I've faith on you getting lynched or at least scum read here, but you never know I guess. I agree with you on that.

[nomnomnom]

Hahahaha

Okay, let's just lynch Volpe. I just realized something extremely funny concerning this whole thing. I don't really doubt this anymore lmao.

Volpe I'm not sure what you were thinking but you probably didn't make the smartest set of moves here concerning the defense you chose.

[Flavor Leaf]

Volpe...you die here in this 1v1...

And I’m not gonna end up dead afterwards. You’re just death tunneled for some reason now.

You got caught up on the thing that was making me start to lean town on you, and now you’re gonna die for it, I guess.

[Volpe14]

You know I’m literally the most not sane town on site, right?

Freudian excuses aren't valid here

Spoiler:

[Flavor Leaf]

This reminds me of when Mulch and I used to have our 1v1’s. Good times.

[Volpe14]

Volpe...you die here in this 1v1...

That would be a blessing, I'm not sure if you realize that.

[Flavor Leaf]

You know I’m literally the most not sane town on site, right?

Freudian excuses aren't valid here

Spoiler:

Eh, it just completely nullifies you’re sanity push tbh.

[Volpe14]

Volpe I'm not sure what you were thinking but you probably didn't make the smartest set of moves here concerning the defense you chose.

I'm not being smart either, I'm town, I'm just really sure that FL should die here, right now.

[Volpe14]

You know I’m literally the most not sane town on site, right?

Freudian excuses aren't valid here

Spoiler:

Eh, it just completely nullifies you’re sanity push tbh.

Are you saying no one should take you seriously because you're just a poor insane man in this unforgiving world?

But at the same time...you think you're reasonable...

Ok FL.

[Gammagooey]

Hey Deas

Hey Deas

What's the worst post in the game so far in your opinion? I don't need an explanation atm but I might bug you about it later when everyone's shown up and posted something meaningfulish

I didn't feel especially passionate about any single post up to this stage, however if I absolutely had to pick one it would be 67.

VOTE: Espresso Patronum

Espresso hasn't made any new posts between these - did you reread and change your mind or is Espresso's iso worse than the sum of its parts in your opinion?

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I'm a bit tired from work + board games so I'm gonna just throw some people in kinda dumb categories for now and then probably play switch for a bit and sleep. Also I haven't read all of the flavor leaf+volpe stuff yet, these reads are from like 5pm EST today plus skimming the pages since then and a few quick isos.

some kind of town read

chennis
volpe
nomnomnom

I don't like any of their posts and they have almost none of them

Almost50
volxen

gut scum read atm but not confident in it

davesaz

More likely to be scum than most players that exist atm

Farkran (agree with chennis that his play seems overly cautious and in particular I dislike that Farkran felt the need to remind everyone of their other scumread on anka when changing votes to chennis - to me it feels like inexperienced scum trying to make sure they can't be 'caught' on anything. Also think that what other people said about his playstyle being a factor in why chennis scumread him is reasonable but I don't agree with it.)

I like their play on a personal level despite thinking it's very much in both their town and scum ranges

Ankamius
GuyInFreezer

Oh jesus I started this 15-20 min ago and volpe and flavor leaf are still going

peace for now

[Flavor Leaf]

Like don’t get me wrong, I’m much less into the Volpe push than I was a few pages ago, which is inherently the point of the push, to be able to help read, so idk why people overreact to 2 votes.

Alongside bringing up possibilities of “if Volpe is town” scenarios, you just got triggered off of something because I started cooling off from pushing you.

I kind of feel like you’re scum trying to abuse a 1v1 with me to make it seem like we’re TvT now.

You get to hide in a 1v1, if that makes sense.

[Flavor Leaf]

You know I’m literally the most not sane town on site, right?

Freudian excuses aren't valid here

Spoiler:

Eh, it just completely nullifies you’re sanity push tbh.

Are you saying no one should take you seriously because you're just a poor insane man in this unforgiving world?

But at the same time...you think you're reasonable...

Ok FL.

I’m always reasonable.

I don’t go aggro mode anymore, people just like to come at me with a “i hate that fucking smirk on your face, you think you’re so cool!!!” Kind of attitude, but I’m just here chillin’.

[nomnomnom]

Volpe I'm not sure what you were thinking but you probably didn't make the smartest set of moves here concerning the defense you chose.

I'm not being smart either, I'm town, I'm just really sure that FL should die here, right now.

Well since you're acting dumb I'll just make sure everyone knows what I'm talking about.

Me and Volpe are sharing a PT together, with a third person. In that thread he suggested the idea that he intentionally shook up his meta in order to beat "meta players" present in the event. So your whole defense about "how I should recognize your scumgame" is completely bullshit.

Secondly, in that thread, you actually do display emotional manipulation. To summarize the whole thing Volpe plays the "I don't want to play this game anymore" card in the thread after the discussion that ensued there, which I will not talk about. You did this very same thing in C9++, shall I note, although again I want to trust the words you said back then about that thing not being alignment indicative, but this is what you stated as defense.

It's probably not smart to use a defense that can be disproven by your own words. You talk a bit too much.

[Volpe14]

It doesn't really matter where this goes right now

If FL dies I'm happy

If I die I'm happy

If people just lynch someone else I'm not going to be sad.

I doubt I'm budging from this wagon though, I feel like this kind of nonsense phrase that scum sometimes says are forgiven way too much.

How far do you need to go in WIFOM to believe that FL said such a thing about my read list in good faith/trying to sort me?

It's pretty clear shading to me.

[Vex Vience]

alright, tinfoil thought time: volpe v fl is tvt, and nom is scum. i read through most of volpe v fl, and skimmed the rest just now while eating ramen. i personally didn't feel any major agenda-pushing from either side, nor did i really feel anything i would say is scum-indicative from either of you. i could be convinced of scum!fl, but i dont feel like that's the case atm.
nom on the other hand i feel like is just scummy in general atm. i dont like how nom has kinda interjected here and there during it and bashed volpe every single time. i also dont feel like nom's posts during it really added anything of value to it, as well as coming off as a "hey look im posting guys" type thing.

[Flavor Leaf]

This is what ScumVorkuta semi did to me earlier in the year. Death tunneled.

I did this somewhat to RadiantCowbells and Shoshin in a scum game of mine on Morality, like forced a 2v2.