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[Alisae]

I don't think I did any genuine scumhunting in that game.

[Menalque]

the fact that gamma hasn't posted yet is strongly scum!indicative for him specifically

[Alisae]

I'm just trying to hunt to the best of my ability.

I'm not even sure why you're even asking me such a question, I'm not sure what you expect the answer to be.
And I'm not sure why now if anything, if that was your question it was best to wait to see if that was what was going to happen

And even then, its up to you to determine the difference between "Ali is genuinely pushing a read" and "Ali is bussing"
the answer is in Legend of the Hidden Speakeasy, if you want an answer to your question, do the work yourself and figure it out.

[Alisae]

the fact that gamma hasn't posted yet is strongly scum!indicative for him specifically

his last post on site was before team mafia started

[Bitmap]

It's been a thought that's been sitting in my head for a bit and I don't really like holding things back. But thank you for your answer. I was just curious how you'd respond.

[Alisae]

Also don't you need Klick to flip first for that thought process to even be a thing?

[Alisae]

I think you're honest tho so I'll give you a pass for now

[Menalque]

the fact that gamma hasn't posted yet is strongly scum!indicative for him specifically

his last post on site was before team mafia started

I think I'm fairly strong on Ali!town bc I feel the same way about klick atm, and her point about gamma

ofhrz is provisionally town. I TR her but I seriously misread her the last time she played scum against me so I have reservations about locking her in early

mastina can be town for now too

[Bitmap]

Also don't you need Klick to flip first for that thought process to even be a thing?

Probably.

[Menalque]

@bitmap if RC is reading what are his reads now? is he still on hito or?

[Menalque]

Did anyone else find page 3-4 between Jingle and jj to be odd or just me?

what was odd about it?

[Menalque]

@chem how much are you talking to your team about this game?

[hitogoroshi]

Hito what is your Shadoweh read atm?

lean scum for the image-conscious thing, but pause for now because later actions from her will be much more alignment-indicative. The thing about me is that one of the main ways I scumhunt is looking for whether someone is actually looking for their vote to translate in to action - but when I am town votes on me never ever translate into action because I am an impossible ml. So when someone votes me for bad vibes it's pretty hard to read on its own because whether or not they sincerely believe it or are just looking for a safe place to park, my wagon ain't moving either way you know? so I plan to index heavily on what her pushing on me looks like and what her hop off looks like

the fact that gamma hasn't posted yet is strongly scum!indicative for him specifically

do you have a source for this? I know asking for meta sources is super tiresome and almost never do it, but lurker voting after 24 hours seems like a sketchy safe park prima facie but becomes fine if it's suspicious for gamma specifically.

I think I'm fairly strong on Ali!town bc I feel the same way about klick atm, and her point about gamma

wait this doesn't track, I mean I feel the same way about eir (tbh Alisae and Bitmap both just get town vibes on effort tell right now, it's classic for a reason) but if you like the counterpoint to your point about gamma's absence being scummy that feels like some unresolved tension

[Bitmap]

@bitmap if RC is reading what are his reads now? is he still on hito or?

He said he's avoiding this game because he has the feeling that most of the playerlist doesn't want him here or like him and will continue to stay out unless someone or some people specifically request that he give his reads or to prevent the slot from being mislynched.

Did anyone else find page 3-4 between Jingle and jj to be odd or just me?

what was odd about it?

It felt like TvS interactions.

[Menalque]

@hito I'm going to bed imminently but yeah I have multiple games with gamma and he's been consistently a much higher poster when town vs scum apart from when he had a head injury and dropped in activity site wide

I don't know what you mean about Ali and unresolved tension

I like that she thought gamma was scummy for not being around but then checked and walked it back because he's not been on site?

@bit I mean regardless of how I feel about him (I do like him but I think he thinks I don't) I still want him to give reads esp bc unless he's going to start writing your posts for you he'd have a much stronger impact as town than as scum

what felt like TvS about it? I didn't really get a lot from that interaction

[Menalque]

I'm not townreading jingle but I wouldn't say it's bc of that interaction

I'm also not sure I'm scumreading jingle

[hitogoroshi]

He said he's avoiding this game because he has the feeling that most of the playerlist doesn't want him here or like him and will continue to stay out unless someone or some people specifically request that he give his reads or to prevent the slot from being mislynched.

this has absolutely nothing to do with the mafia game but it is a mental health thing I have seen some friends struggle with, so I just want to say: RC it's easy to forget sometimes there's a whole continuous gradient of potential actions you can take between Really Involved and Not Involved. The fact that your first interactions with the thread were you at 100% trying to play via proxy and got a bit of backlash doesn't mean the answer is to totally self-isolate. You don't gotta choose between being a phantom extra player or a total absence. You can just sorta glide along with however much time you got, tell Bitmap if you see something big, and say nothing if ya don't. There's no need to make a big discrete decision around whether you're "in the game" or not

@hito I'm going to bed imminently but yeah I have multiple games with gamma and he's been consistently a much higher poster when town vs scum apart from when he had a head injury and dropped in activity site wide

I don't know what you mean about Ali and unresolved tension

I like that she thought gamma was scummy for not being around but then checked and walked it back because he's not been on site?

The unresolved tension is that, if you like a walkback after seeing Gamma is not on site, I would imagine you either a.) also walk it back or b.) try to impress upon Alisae the reason why you

aren't

walking it back. Just don't get the set of motivations where you're like "that's a good walkback of your gamma suspicion! anyway I'ma chill mutely with my gamma vote"

[Bitmap]

@bit I mean regardless of how I feel about him (I do like him but I think he thinks I don't) I still want him to give reads esp bc unless he's going to start writing your posts for you he'd have a much stronger impact as town than as scum

what felt like TvS about it? I didn't really get a lot from that interaction

I'll let you know how it goes. As for the TvS, it felt more of a gut thing.

[Menalque]

bc I'm not pushing anywhere else yet so I don't need to move it?

pedit: that was @hito

[Alisae]

VOTE: Klick
@mena lets start to build traction here

[Menalque]

VOTE: klick

[Menalque]

hito your chem vote is bad

I feel like you're voting there because you're expecting chem to do things and that's just not gonna happen regardless of alignment

[Alisae]

Hito are you willing to join us? If not I would be interested as to why

[Menalque]

I also think chem!scum is very catchable late game whereas chem!town is mislynch bait who scum love to mislynch on D1

[Alisae]

hito your chem vote is bad

I feel like you're voting there because you're expecting chem to do things and that's just not gonna happen regardless of alignment

I think there's just a higher chance that he just has never played with Chemist before so he's holding him accountable and trying to vote him to get him to do stuff just like he would with any other player