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[Menalque]

I also just find chem really funny tbh and so that also disincentives me from lynching him

[Alisae]

From that perspective its not as bad as you think

[Menalque]

hito your chem vote is bad

I feel like you're voting there because you're expecting chem to do things and that's just not gonna happen regardless of alignment

I think there's just a higher chance that he just has never played with Chemist before so he's holding him accountable and trying to vote him to get him to do stuff just like he would with any other player

yeah this is why I said his vote was bad and not that his vote was scummy

plus actually bothered to explain why it was bad

[Alisae]

If I had to describe Chem in one word its dissapointing.
He's just enjoyable and fun so I don't really mind it.

[Menalque]

I mean it's still bad even if it's understandable

not bad from a hito's alignment perspective, bad from an objective rating of the vote perspective

[Menalque]

yeah that's accurate but mostly because I think chem has a shitload of promise and is just lazy when it comes to mafia

[hitogoroshi]

Hito are you willing to join us? If not I would be interested as to why

I don't have strong feelings on klick either way but that's a fucking aces way to start a wagon and you dragged a great town reaction out of menal so sure I'm down. Though I still think the biggest skeleton key for Klick is understanding Klick -> Shadoweh which I think probably needs to finish revealing itself

VOTE: Klick

hito your chem vote is bad

I feel like you're voting there because you're expecting chem to do things and that's just not gonna happen regardless of alignment

I think there's just a higher chance that he just has never played with Chemist before so he's holding him accountable and trying to vote him to get him to do stuff just like he would with any other player

correct I know nothing of chemist and am just generally trying to foster a culture of accountability in this town because that's sort of my main deal.

[Bitmap]

@bit I mean regardless of how I feel about him (I do like him but I think he thinks I don't) I still want him to give reads esp bc unless he's going to start writing your posts for you he'd have a much stronger impact as town than as scum

what felt like TvS about it? I didn't really get a lot from that interaction

I'll let you know how it goes. As for the TvS, it felt more of a gut thing.

@Menalque:

I've decided and the team agreed that the team will only point out the big things and when we do I'll refer it as a team opinion and no one specifically on the team. Otherwise, assume it's from me.

[mastina]

VOTE: gamma

ok you can have a pass d1
gamma posting elsewhere on site is unusual and sketchy

Mate don't you fucking DARE accredit to Menalque what Menalque stole from ME.
Mena wasn't the one who noticed Gamma's (lack of posting); you literally fucking quoted the post where *I* was the one who pointed it out.

[mastina]

I think Klick is leaning town.

Same question goes out to you

Because Bitmap is Klick's scumbuddy.

[hitogoroshi]

mastina you have ten scum tokens to drop into three buckets, bitmap klick gamma. how many do you put in each bucket

[Alisae]

VOTE: gamma

ok you can have a pass d1
gamma posting elsewhere on site is unusual and sketchy

Mate don't you fucking DARE accredit to Menalque what Menalque stole from ME.
Mena wasn't the one who noticed Gamma's (lack of posting); you literally fucking quoted the post where *I* was the one who pointed it out.

I am going to do it
and I am going to continue to do it
all out of spite for you
and all of your last minute nominations

I hate you, I hope for the rest of your life your girlfriend steps on leggos and I also hope that you get eaten by a dinosaur

[mastina]

(tbh Alisae and Bitmap both just get town vibes on effort tell right now, it's classic for a reason)

You know what's also a classic?
A little saying I coined called "effort != alignment".

[Bitmap]

Anyways, this game has been kind of stressful. It feels like a majority of the players view this slot as RC and I'm just the body that inhabits the slot. I think mastina's first few posts were all sorts of fucked up when she was glorifying players while calling others pretty much shit. While it's my first time playing team mafia, I don't think you can just assume a team's strong points are going to be one or two people on the team but rather how they all interact and work together. Not everyone can be a carry and sometimes too many carries mean you have a "too many cooks in the kitchen" problem. This game has been a lot of effort and I've been trying to do my best to uphold the standards that everyone puts my team on.

Shower thoughts with bitmap.

[Alisae]

I think Klick is leaning town.

Same question goes out to you

Because Bitmap is Klick's scumbuddy.

Do you wanna join the wagon?

[mastina]

VOTE: klick

Sure.
VOTE: Klick

[mastina]

mastina you have ten scum tokens to drop into three buckets, bitmap klick gamma. how many do you put in each bucket

Seven on Bitmap, one on each of Klick/Gamma, one on the unlisted Kerset--ideally, I'd remove a token from one of the one-tokens and place it on a second of them, e.g. removing one of the tokens from Klick/Gamma and placing it onto Kerset (if I had to go on suspicions, it'd be Bitmap > Kerset > Klick ~= Gamma), but I've no qualms with voting a scumread even if it is one of my weakest two scumreads because weakest scumread is still scumread and wagon > no wagon, soooo.

I don't see any reason not to vote Klick in spite of Klick not being my strongest scumread.

[mastina]

While it's my first time playing team mafia, I don't think you can just assume a team's strong points are going to be one or two people on the team but rather how they all interact and work together.

Boy oh boy you ARE new to Team Mafia aren't you.

[Bitmap]

While it's my first time playing team mafia, I don't think you can just assume a team's strong points are going to be one or two people on the team but rather how they all interact and work together.

Boy oh boy you ARE new to Team Mafia aren't you.

I joined cause RC is a buddy and I already knew GIF and NSG. I don't play mafia competitively.

Just because you're playing the best of a sub-optimal strategy, doesn't mean it's the best strategy.

[Alisae]

I don't consider Team Mafia a competative event tbh

[hitogoroshi]

(tbh Alisae and Bitmap both just get town vibes on effort tell right now, it's classic for a reason)

You know what's also a classic?
A little saying I coined called "effort != alignment".

they're not equal but they sure as shit are correlated imo, especially if the effort increases when the thread is stalled

thanks for answering token question, it will help contextualize wagonflow later on. tbh it was a spur of the moment idea and I think it's a revealing question I should add to my toolbox

Boy oh boy you ARE new to Team Mafia aren't you.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯ having played 2 and modded 1 I do think that team reads end up being not as impactful as everyone thinks they'll be. I did catch Spyrex once in Nuwen's game and it was dope as hell but I think ultimately since everything is filtered through the prism of the active player anyway the team is only a moderate factor at best

[Alisae]

if we want an actual competative event, we need to do something like how Mafiauniverse does championships
THAT would be competative.

[Alisae]

if anything I just show my work the person on my team who I feel like would help me the most and they give me an answer check

[Klick]

mastina 239 seems like a pretty genuine reads list, don't think scum makes a point out of doing a big reads list this early when half the entries are gonna be "I got nothin' chief'.

This is a weird take. I can't see it, and I can't see how someone else would genuinely see it.
This game has had plenty of content - there's enough out there for some sort of read on most of this cast. And Mastina doesn't strike me as someone who would avoid content as scum, or someone who would give off that impression.

[PenguinPower]