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Post Post #925 (ISO) » Sat Jan 04, 2020 10:38 am

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In post 923, kuribo wrote:
In post 922, Volpe14 wrote:
In post 921, kuribo wrote:I don't find you scummy, but I wasn't sure how anyone could come to some of those reads you had. I feel the motivation thing but in reverse. I hate rolling town.
I once town read a newbie because she said she was townreading someone for their avatar.

Let that sink in I guess(she was really town).
I once lynched scum by wagoning my strongest townread

I once wagoned someone because one of my other hydra heads had claimed mason with them for no reason, and the other person didn't deny it.

One time I wagoned someone because I dreamed they were scum. My dream was correct.
I was gonna say I once town leaned someone for posting smileys but I couldn't hope to compete with such wildness like yours.

You're a wild one among the wilds.
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Post Post #926 (ISO) » Sat Jan 04, 2020 10:42 am

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In my second game in the site I had a theory that the mod was a player in the game while not knowing anyone alignment by a certain method though

That stuff discredit my reasonableness here but who cares, let's have fun

(fwiw my recent scum hunting track is ok-ish I think?)
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Post Post #927 (ISO) » Sat Jan 04, 2020 10:55 am

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UNVOTE:

VOTE: nomnom

Actually screw it I'm kinda noping out of this tbh

I'm gonna keep GiF as my main town read and Fark as a rough town lean but that's roughly it

nomnom I feel like it's still a ok lynch

FL/Ank are also but I'm tired of getting denied on those so if they are scum I don't really care right now it's not my fault if they endgame

who knows maybe you guys are right and it's davez, gamma or something
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Post Post #929 (ISO) » Sat Jan 04, 2020 10:56 am

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Yeah get back on him
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Post Post #930 (ISO) » Sat Jan 04, 2020 11:00 am

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Put that thing back where it came from or so help me

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Post Post #931 (ISO) » Sat Jan 04, 2020 11:00 am

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This game did not get 25+ pages when I was away.
Alright, catch up time
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Post Post #932 (ISO) » Sat Jan 04, 2020 11:03 am

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Call me a fool (or scum if you like) but after page 15 I'm locking FL as town and betting the game on it.

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Post Post #933 (ISO) » Sat Jan 04, 2020 11:06 am

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EoP 16, and I really hope that was the end of that FL-Volpe interaction. (I skimmed p16, obviously)

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Post Post #934 (ISO) » Sat Jan 04, 2020 11:06 am

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You got about 22 more pages of it
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Post Post #935 (ISO) » Sat Jan 04, 2020 11:07 am

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And i actually feel like once Volpe got pressure off of him, he moved off of me and onto Nomnom. I’m getting paranoid that he played me to get town read.
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Post Post #936 (ISO) » Sat Jan 04, 2020 11:09 am

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I feel a lot lighter now that I stopped subconsciously trying to take responsibility for the game to be fair.

p-edit: FL "paranoia" is...cute.
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Post Post #937 (ISO) » Sat Jan 04, 2020 11:09 am

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The epitome of townBoon ^
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Post Post #938 (ISO) » Sat Jan 04, 2020 11:11 am

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In post 415, Volpe14 wrote:This game gives me headache so I'm just gonna start walking away from it and honestly maybe it's not all that bad I'm getting SR because it means I probably don't die during nights.

[Volpe] - town
[Elem] - likely town
[Fark, Espresso, GiF] - nulltown
[everyone else] - null
[Nomnom, Chennis, Ank, Vex, MariaR] - nullscum

I don't really care that much anymore, any doubt on my reads ask and I reply when I check-in or something. Don't ask for explanations for all them though, that would be too bothersome right now.

I was coming around Ank/Vex/MariaR as making sense but Chennis/Nom gives me some creepy vibes. Maybe FL.

Out of the null slots, maybe I like DV the most but I'm weak on that.
I am not going to engage you about thus read list, mainly because I don't get ANY of your reads, and also because I don't want to be tied in a long "You. No, You." type of argument. I just want to say I expect to soon be added to the nullscum pool because I gave FL an explicit TR (and because of this post too)

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Post Post #939 (ISO) » Sat Jan 04, 2020 11:15 am

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A50 you're too late to the party, I already booked this game.

FL/Nomnom by the way now it's the perfect time for a U-turn on me because I surely am not going to fight back.
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Post Post #940 (ISO) » Sat Jan 04, 2020 11:21 am

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Spoiler: 1
In post 190, Farkran wrote:Do you think espresso jumped opportunistically on the wagon against anka? Does this mean you think Anka's recent exchanges are NAI and this is scum!espresso trying to find scum motivation where you think there isn't any?

More specifically, why do you think Espresso has voted ankamius based on a superficial analysis whereas you don't find Ankamius reactions superficial?
I think his reasoning is pretty bad and shallow. It shows a lack of thinking. If he jumped on the wagon for ank sure, but that isn't the main reason to vote him. It's just an added reason. I do think Anks recent exchanges are NAI, but even if I was scumreading Ank for example I would still find this bad.

I know Ank is a really good player and I think what she did was either fooling around or a test. Whereas Espresso wasn't. I think Scum Ank has no reason to really do what she did there and I'd like to think others would as well.
In post 202, chennisden wrote:1) Farkran's ISO is towny on a surface level but actually bad if you read it
2) He's posting in a way that makes it really easy to just skim/not actually read his posts but moreso focus on the interactions around him, which really just comes from scum a lot (see Reundo in Large normal 224, etc)
3) Sounds reasonable at first glance but there's a lot of scummy overeagerness, which as #2 says, kind of doesn't get read into
(I did read the wall but I’m not posting about each point)
Point 1 is pretty buzz and doesn’t mean much (however you talked about this more in the wall so it’s moot)
Point 2 I don’t mind until you bring up another player. Like, saying player X did this as scum so player Y does it as scum is one of the worst reasons to read a player cause with that logic anyone can be scum.
Point 3 why is overeagerness scummy?
My read on Fakran is he’s playing the game in a hyper mode, but I don’t really see what he’s saying as bad.
In post 226, davesaz wrote:I understand chenn’s Post and see why those things are interpreted that way but they are the type of things I’d townread that player for. So far anyway the game is young.
Might agree with scumreading others for that
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What does this even mean?
In post 244, davesaz wrote:Fl link a town game you started off disinterested in. I just saw a scumgame where you weren’t your usual playful self.
Yeah I’m fine voting Dave at the moment. ‘This one game I saw you in you acted like this so you’re scummy’ I might be bias cause I’ve seen this logic used on me and it pisses me off but still this line of thinking is just bad.
In post 256, GuyInFreezer wrote:You shouldn't give up that easily.
This being TM and what not.
But I'll take the free D1 scum lynch.

VOTE: volpe
I’ve skimmed volpe cause I don’t think they’ve posted anything of value. What am I missing?
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Post Post #941 (ISO) » Sat Jan 04, 2020 11:26 am

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EoP 19. and that duel isn't over yet. Guys, this is TEAM MAFIA. If I was playing solo I would have just turned on my trolling ability or sat back an didn't five a fuck. But I have a team that put their faith in me to try and win this thing (i.e. this is one of the rare occasions where winning is >>>> having fun for me)

@gooey: What exactly don't/didn't you like about my posting, considering I hadn't exactly said anything at that point?

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Post Post #942 (ISO) » Sat Jan 04, 2020 11:27 am

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In post 476, Flavor Leaf wrote:I think Volpe just has Flavor Fever. He’s
heard of my scum game
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hyper paranoid
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Wouldn't that make him town by definition?

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Post Post #943 (ISO) » Sat Jan 04, 2020 11:30 am

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In post 489, GuyInFreezer wrote:Ok I don't have much time atm but basically our group as a collective thinks that volpe is town and lynching our townread is very bad idea.
My team hasn't said much about the main thread yet, but I am leaning thus way too. Volpe is too "out there" for him to be Scum in this players list.

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Post Post #944 (ISO) » Sat Jan 04, 2020 11:34 am

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Spoiler: 2
In post 262, Elements wrote:I'm feeling like Farkran atm
Don't like how he came in claiming to be the king of read lists but has only done one so far
VOTE: Farkran
I really need to lower my expetactions I guess because I come in and see posts like this go ‘this is stupid you can’t be this stupid’ and start to sr it. But maybe I’m the stupid one and just don’t get it.
In post 278, DeasVail wrote:I worry that the GiF/RC meme is becoming over-used to excuse people from taking stances on GiF.
+1
In post 285, davesaz wrote:@volpe I don't think keeping scumreads secret is at all helpful to town.
Disagree, I think having interactions with people who don’t know you scumread them can be quite telling. Besides, scum are much more likely to pay attention to reads/scumreads on partners/them than they let on. Of course, this has the down side of flexibility from scum to jump on reads for being ‘secret’ but I don’t think it’s all bad.
In post 292, Flavor Leaf wrote:Fakran’s posting style seems like Scum Brian Skies, if anyone gets that.
Ah, one of the few players that scares me. Go on~
In post 300, chennisden wrote:Farkran you're either scum or you're town playing in a too careful and tense manner.
You get tense? I get eager. This is more a question of where you feel that.
I don’t think I’ve ever seen you tryhard this much before, it’s certainly interesting compared to how you normally have such a massive ego in your posting.

The only thing I see really ‘wrong’ with Chen is it feels like he’s talking to Farkan who he knows is town. But, that’s a stretch and I like the rest of his posting. Mostly cause it seems believable for now. Just take this as shade and ‘I told you so’ if Chenn ever flips scum <3

FL is pushing a ton of people and flipping his reads back and forth? Not surprising. Is he doing this to give himself an advantage in the game is the real question. Right now, I can’t tell.
In post 372, Flavor Leaf wrote:I disagree with that last statement hard.

As scum, I know exactly what’s going on from literally every single person’s perspective
That’s why I beat you every time right? Seriously, you can’t believe this though. Even you’re not that egotastic
I bet Maria is scum this game
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Post Post #945 (ISO) » Sat Jan 04, 2020 11:37 am

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In post 492, Flavor Leaf wrote:Skitter has to kill me as soon as I replaced in without me having even doing anything earlier this year.
Fun fact: this happened to me recently. I tried to sub into a game
during the night phase
and -according to the mod- scum went "WTF! This has to die!" just 5 minutes later after it was announced I was taking the slot over. Needless to say TOWN WON! :lol: (That's MY effect) :lol: :lol:

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Post Post #946 (ISO) » Sat Jan 04, 2020 11:38 am

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In post 493, Volpe14 wrote:It had quite a lot of frustation on it but I really I'm coming to terms with one of FL/nomnom just being actual scum.
I don't have a read on nomnom as of yet

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Post Post #947 (ISO) » Sat Jan 04, 2020 11:40 am

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In post 495, Flavor Leaf wrote:And for the most part, any game that people say I did lol bad as town in...I win essentially every single one of those games
remind me to say that about you in the open when we roll Masons together? (Or if I'm Cop and for a clear on you.. you know what I mean)

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Post Post #948 (ISO) » Sat Jan 04, 2020 11:41 am

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@Maria - It’s not egotistical, that’s just one of my strengths that I use. I studied a lot of Sociology, and I use that to my game moreso than Psychology, which is what most people use.

And yeah, you’re like the only person who consistently takes me out, but we haven’t really played all that much. :lol: I haven’t figured out how to game you yet.
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Post Post #949 (ISO) » Sat Jan 04, 2020 11:42 am

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In post 496, Volpe14 wrote:don't forget to choose between me and FL
No deal. So far I think you're both Town. (Now had it been BINGLE... :wink: )

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