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Post Post #475 (ISO) » Sat Jan 04, 2020 2:11 am

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I do remember I went back and clicked the "ok" quote and read it again and was like the word ok isn't in this and I was just really confused and life was hard.
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Post Post #476 (ISO) » Sat Jan 04, 2020 2:12 am

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tl;dr paraphrasing: ank says her read on you feels more lucid when she doesn't have firsthand interactions

I don't think I'm capturing get perfectly. Ank thinks more nuancedly than I do.
I'm also starting to fade out. I'll revisit this when I'm not wiped+nearly asleep.
RadiantCowbells wrote:I don't really remember what I was thinking, but I will instead say if I was scum there's no real reason for my interpretation of that post as a joke or not to differ from me as town.
I don't think I disagree with this, was more curious about the way you're parsing my posts.

pedit2: that's valid

pedit3: Australian Internet is truly unkind and I am mobileposting. Please go easy on me.
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Post Post #477 (ISO) » Sat Jan 04, 2020 2:14 am

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If Skitter is scum, I would be nearly certain that Mathblade is also scum.
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Post Post #478 (ISO) » Sat Jan 04, 2020 2:17 am

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~special gamestate read~ exactly 1/2 of Tris/Plum is probably scum.
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Post Post #479 (ISO) » Sat Jan 04, 2020 12:24 pm

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Who all is V/LA? It only shows Ari and I want to ask him about a couple things but stalling the game out until the 10th is shitty.

VOTE: Xtoxm
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Post Post #480 (ISO) » Sat Jan 04, 2020 12:32 pm

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none of skitter + plum + iconeum can reliably play on weekends as a general rule, i believe
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Post Post #481 (ISO) » Sat Jan 04, 2020 12:35 pm

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*cough*
hey ducky
hows the scumhunting going?
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Post Post #482 (ISO) » Sat Jan 04, 2020 12:40 pm

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Too many pages
In post 388, teacher wrote:
In post 338, Plum wrote:I have another scumread shared with a teammate in teacher, which I'm holding for the moment in case the lack of desktop access was changing stuff there.
I have evolved to a different playstyle since I became a mostly mobile player, but I am a mostly mobile player so I dont think its going to be changing stuff. Im a slow burn generally.
You early behavior to that point was mostly throwing around jokes and non-content one-liners, and I and another of my teammates were inclined to scumread that behavior but you also indicated plans to do more meaningful content stuff once you had desktop access, so I thought I'd give you the benefit of the doubt and see what you posted.

Generally RC's Ari case is basically along the lines of how I read most of his stuff (in b4 cases are scummy)
In post 370, Bellaphant wrote:VOTE: rcenigma

Feels awkward and contrived. Too much theory talk as well.
Skim reading, need to go back and look at the Ari stuff. Like the rc/the worst interaction over the last few pages.

Xtoms entrance sucks.

Liking ico right now , is making reasonable points.
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This entrance is mehhh, I have no idea what to make of it except that liking Ico is ... yikes

Ico should explain his progression on me, it is not a good look that he made a case on me that was explained entirely by posts I had made, unvoted when I helpfully quoted from my ISO, and has declined to acknowledge that I've asked him to discuss the matter. Just like pretending the issue doesn't exist and hoping it will go away on its own?
In post 372, Iconeum wrote:
In post 370, Bellaphant wrote:VOTE: rcenigma

Feels awkward and contrived. Too much theory talk as well.
Skim reading, need to go back and look at the Ari stuff. Like the rc/the worst interaction over the last few pages.

Xtoms entrance sucks.

Liking ico right now , is making reasonable points.
gonna be honest here

i liked xtoms entrance more then yours
Can't say I disagree tbh
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In post 70, Aristophanes wrote:
In post 55, tris wrote:i wouldn't say so. sometimes i guess.
Cool cool cool

I ask because while your initial post about the party hat was innocuous, your responses to Math calling it out were a little less so. I could see it from a newbie or someone like Nancy Drew (sorry my compadre but it's apt and I know you understand) who is more likely to take things more emotionally or personally on a quick read. You seemed a lot more ruffled by Math than you needed to be.

VOTE: Tris

I think this a decent start to the game and have a few decent reads already, which is nice :)
I thought this was a townie approach, even if i didnt agree with it ^
I read it the opposite way, feels like an artificial way of making the decision about a tone read look logical and impartial.
In post 426, Bellaphant wrote:128 cool, rc is town
???

I also don't get your read on skitter

I also don't get why you like Ico and like his case on me

I don't know exactly what to make of skitter, like I mostly agree with her views on a lot of things and her reasoning is all quite *reasonable* but I don't know enough to say if that impression should give other than a null read on her right now
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Post Post #483 (ISO) » Sat Jan 04, 2020 12:43 pm

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In post 481, Xtoxm wrote:*cough*
hey ducky
hows the scumhunting going?
pretty slow so far - how bout you?
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Post Post #484 (ISO) » Sat Jan 04, 2020 12:49 pm

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mm same
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Post Post #485 (ISO) » Sat Jan 04, 2020 12:57 pm

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Beetlejuice Beetlejuice Beetlejuice.
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Post Post #486 (ISO) » Sat Jan 04, 2020 1:03 pm

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nah i saw tw posting around site for like half hour beforehand was just waiting for him to come here to say hi
you just posted at an inconvenient time
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Post Post #487 (ISO) » Sat Jan 04, 2020 1:04 pm

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In post 479, RCEnigma wrote:Who all is V/LA? It only shows Ari and I want to ask him about a couple things but stalling the game out until the 10th is shitty.

VOTE: Xtoxm
i checked this thread first i just didn't find this post very inspiring to respond to
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Post Post #488 (ISO) » Sat Jan 04, 2020 1:05 pm

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Likely story. Maximum sentence. Lock em up.
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Post Post #489 (ISO) » Sat Jan 04, 2020 1:06 pm

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Maybe my worst fears came true and the scumteam is RC/TW/Xtoxm.
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Post Post #490 (ISO) » Sat Jan 04, 2020 1:07 pm

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siiiggggghhh 360 noscope angleshoot strikes gold againnnn
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Post Post #491 (ISO) » Sat Jan 04, 2020 1:42 pm

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In post 424, teacher wrote:You do you. I was wrong and owned it. Dunno what else you want. It felt like more than it was.
i want to circle-back to how/why you were expecting me to be able to read you (i.e. on postcount) by that point
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Post Post #492 (ISO) » Sat Jan 04, 2020 1:45 pm

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In post 426, Bellaphant wrote:96 of skitters is really, really damaging to my town read. 'could be this, or that. or that'. Yes, that's the game.
if i knew, i would have said so, and i said which one i thought was more likely, ty
In post 426, Bellaphant wrote:343 etc were the posts I felt bad about 'theory crafting' from Enigma earlier. Posts like 359 are making me wonder if this is just my personality disliking the self aware/removed tone.
i think that's a normal tone for him
In post 426, Bellaphant wrote:Skitters posting is not improving.
do tell

why do your teammates like that plum checked in with her team about ari?
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Post Post #493 (ISO) » Sat Jan 04, 2020 1:46 pm

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In post 428, RCEnigma wrote:Rescinding my early townread on Teacher, we aren't on the wavelength regarding RC that I thought we were. The timing just made it seem like he was seeing what I was seeing. I'm also kind of attributing it to the fact I wasn't around during that time.
what were you seeing about rc there?

also i think that this probably comes from town ^
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Post Post #494 (ISO) » Sat Jan 04, 2020 1:47 pm

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In post 433, the worst wrote:
VOTE: skitter this is so upsetting
oh *do* tell
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Post Post #495 (ISO) » Sat Jan 04, 2020 1:50 pm

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In post 490, the worst wrote:siiiggggghhh 360 noscope angleshoot strikes gold againnnn
I wasn't using any of that to angleshoot.
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Post Post #496 (ISO) » Sat Jan 04, 2020 1:52 pm

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In post 434, the worst wrote:
In post 426, Bellaphant wrote:Mathblade's page one is super weird, really aggressive for no reason. Stands out the worst 13
Given it was a pretty odd opinion and Mathblade is smart I figured he was taking a stance on something in order to kick the game off. This is what promoted my initial weak townpings actually - it felt like he seemed unafraid to look like kinda sloppy and not-towny in exchange for generating content.

I think I like this from you but I'm not fully sure why yet. Let me wake up.
ya that's what i thought he was doing too
the thing is that i think he's capable of doing that as scum and i don't think it's ai

and i kinda hate the lamist-y stuff he says
and the aggressiveness
and his demands are kinda unreasonable for the stage of the game that he's asking them for (i.e. with asking tris for who his scumbuddies would be)

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tyty i appreciate it and i'm trying not to spam either
idk if i'm doing such a good job at it either, but i'm trying

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In post 436, the worst wrote:Still don't feel teacher has done much AI and ngl I don't see why he unvoted skitter
i don't get the vote *or* the unvote or why he thinks i should be thinking he *has* done ai stuff

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In post 439, teacher wrote:Plums a bit of a posting non-entity to me. Like they are posting, and jiving, but nothing's sticking to the me or the gamestate.
i disagree on plum here
i do agree with you on bella and xtoxm tho
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Post Post #497 (ISO) » Sat Jan 04, 2020 1:52 pm

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tris is townie, i think
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Post Post #498 (ISO) » Sat Jan 04, 2020 1:59 pm

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In post 493, skitter30 wrote:
In post 428, RCEnigma wrote:Rescinding my early townread on Teacher, we aren't on the wavelength regarding RC that I thought we were. The timing just made it seem like he was seeing what I was seeing. I'm also kind of attributing it to the fact I wasn't around during that time.
what were you seeing about rc there?

also i think that this probably comes from town ^
Specifically the image posting. Thought it was a good way for RC to give content/reads without being engaged in a way that makes him a target.

Town!RC has to figure out how not to be the night 1 target in this playerlist right. The aggressive approach gets him fearkilled or lynched. It's reasonable with this playerlist, I don't think there are many slots afraid of town!RC as scum here.

With that said, no one has tried to discredit anything coming from RC at all. So without RC posting anything strongly scum indicative, the gamestate says there's a nonzero chance RC is just scum here.

That's a really off-putting read for me and it feels weird saying it. Im inclined to out it out if my mind till tomorrow.
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Post Post #499 (ISO) » Sat Jan 04, 2020 2:02 pm

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In post 450, RadiantCowbells wrote:This is also super weird: you vote Skitter30 for a meme vote but you're kinda acting like it's a serious vote.
i'm p sure it was a serious vote but it doesn't really make sense with his teacher read, i think

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In post 454, RadiantCowbells wrote:not like this. being worn out might be the reason but yeah.
i'm not sure he's like ~high-energy~ as town anymore
at least not until like later in the game

even saying that he feels more like ~washed-out~ than the last few times i've played with town!him
i don't particularly want to push this angle unless it's like still a thing by like ~eod/sod2

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In post 478, RadiantCowbells wrote:~special gamestate read~ exactly 1/2 of Tris/Plum is probably scum.
i said this before but from a gamestate perspective, i don't think they're both town and although i townread them independantly the first like ~4 pages of the game gave me svs vibes

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In post 480, the worst wrote:none of skitter + plum + iconeum can reliably play on weekends as a general rule, i believe
yep, plum has the same kind of vla as me and ico also has weekend vla

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In post 481, Xtoxm wrote:*cough*
hey ducky
hows the scumhunting going?
this is icky

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In post 482, Plum wrote:I read it the opposite way, feels like an artificial way of making the decision about a tone read look logical and impartial.
sure but i don't think ari tries to fake post in that fashion as scum
i probably should have specified like 'for ari' or something
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