Team Mafia 2020: Normal Game (Endgame)

[skitter30]

Rescinding my early townread on Teacher, we aren't on the wavelength regarding RC that I thought we were. The timing just made it seem like he was seeing what I was seeing. I'm also kind of attributing it to the fact I wasn't around during that time.

what were you seeing about rc there?

also i think that this probably comes from town ^

Specifically the image posting. Thought it was a good way for RC to give content/reads without being engaged in a way that makes him a target.

Town!RC has to figure out how not to be the night 1 target in this playerlist right. The aggressive approach gets him fearkilled or lynched. It's reasonable with this playerlist, I don't think there are many slots afraid of town!RC as scum here.

With that said, no one has tried to discredit anything coming from RC at all. So without RC posting anything strongly scum indicative, the gamestate says there's a nonzero chance RC is just scum here.

That's a really off-putting read for me and it feels weird saying it. Im inclined to out it out if my mind till tomorrow.

i was actually thinking the same thing about the images, that he was trying to be like non-antagonistic and like non-making-himself-the-center-of-attention

which i thought for him was townie

i think that scum!him would be more worried about setting the agenda, would try to play up the thing with math unless maybe they were scum together, wouldn't be as worried about taking over the thread/making it pleasant for other people

[RCEnigma]

Yeah, problem is. If RC is scum he's scum with Math.

[skitter30]

yeah that's p much exactly what i was thinking

they're either tvt or svs because i think scum in that pair would have forced the argument earlier

[RadiantCowbells]

oh people started calling me scum

well i enjoyed this game to page 21

[RadiantCowbells]

oh people started calling me scum

well i enjoyed this game to page 21

[RadiantCowbells]

well back to my regularly scheduled 3 houses.

[RCEnigma]

This is for your own good.

[RCEnigma]

yeah that's p much exactly what i was thinking

they're either tvt or svs because i think scum in that pair would have forced the argument earlier

I dunno. If RC is town Math can still be scum there. I feel like the initial push on RC was for the sake of argument initiated by math which has scum equity in itself.

[skitter30]

Spoiler:

yeah, town mathblade never ever ever calls me town on page 4 of a game.

Lol you haven’t played with me in more than a year and I have called you town early on before. Please continue being factually incorrect. It was the game we don’t speak of where I fucked up. Then you wouldn’t let it go and it caused me to scumread you. Don’t do this again please RC.

also he's called everyone voting him scum besides me b/c he knows that voting me really doesn't go anywhere. the townread on me is straight TMI.

That’s rich. You realize I called Plum/Tris/Skitter scum before their votes.

Dude I get it you hate my guts/think I suck/whatever

It’s really antitown what you’re doing here.

why am I town though?

Mix of Titus/ when you’re scum you don’t fake claim so early/ you’re less of an asshole (but still one)

i thought he was trying to de-escalate here ^

[RadiantCowbells]

How does Mathblade trying to de-escalate a conflict with me point away from Mathblade being scum and me being town?

Like if anything that looks like they're trying to appease me which if anything points to us not being aligned (or being TvT)?

[RCEnigma]

Maybe, I read it as buddying kind of.

Like to me it was more like "I'm townreading you, now go do this to someone else." Town!RC at some point is going to merry-go-round with wagons until something sticks out.

[RCEnigma]

Right, what RC said.

[skitter30]

How does Mathblade trying to de-escalate a conflict with me point away from Mathblade being scum and me being town?

Like if anything that looks like they're trying to appease me which if anything points to us not being aligned (or being TvT)?

i feel like you both have personalities where you'd try to force it day1 if you were scum, from what i've seen of you and what i understand of him

[RadiantCowbells]

I struggle to believe that you think that neither Yume nor Titus would talk Mathblade out of a 1v1 that he has no chance to win.

I also struggle to believe that you think that I as scum absolutely want to have this conflict as opposed to avoiding it when I've systematically been conflict avoidant as scum.

[skitter30]

i have no idea who's on his team
i don't perceive you as being conflict-avoiding as scum whatsoever

[skitter30]

like i think you're more conflict-forcing as scum than as town ...

[RadiantCowbells]

Ok, so let's focus on the other side since i'm not exactly worried about you thinking if rc scum -> mathblade scum.

How often do scum willingly choose to be in a 1v1 with me? What is it about mathblade that suggests that he's that reckless and foolhardy?

[RadiantCowbells]

Skitter there are a lot of people that you presumably trust to read you calling you scum. You're not really doing anything about it. You're turning around and calling me scum off of a really dumb contingency

How should I take that?

[skitter30]

teacher i think can read me ok but his scumread of me here is p bad and concernign and i'm following up on that
want to talk to tw more about his scumread on me, yeah, kinda waiting for him to be around
bella's read was p bad but i have no reason to believe she can read me so. was kinda thinking that she saw the other reads and was band-wagoning cuz i don't entirely understand why she's scumreading me beyond 'dislike my posting'

not sure who else called me scum

i'm also aware that i sometimes start off a little slower but that i'm p good at obvtowning under pressure so i'm not particularly concerned

and i'm not calling you scum. i was more responding to something rce said

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math i'm thinking of that mastina game which i wasn't in but vaguely spectated and as far as i know you two have a tendency to get toxic (jjh was also basically like 'yeah that's going to be a shitshow' when i said that math had repped in) and i think either of you would try to exploit that as scum to make the gamestate harder for everyone else to navigate

i think that you *not* doing that is town-indicative for you here

[RadiantCowbells]

but then... why did you call me scum for it...

[skitter30]

i didn't ...

[skitter30]

i said if you're scum you're scum with math

i didn't say i thought you were scum and i don't know why you thought i did, i thought you were talking about rce

[RadiantCowbells]

like

i think that math is scum

so when you say we're tvt or svs i interpret that as you calling me scum

and i don't like that because i feel like our interactions point the exact opposite way

[skitter30]

it was more like i was saying that those are the worlds i think are most likely

and that's not how i read the situation

[RadiantCowbells]

ok, but like if math flips scum, is that now not an "I think RC is most likely scum" coming from you