Team Mafia 2020: Normal Game (Endgame)

[RadiantCowbells]

yeah i don't agree with this mindset
my point is that this argument mirrors that one

a person who thinks that scum is scum and then changes their mind and a person who never thinks that scum are scum and never end up lynching them both lost the game.

rc why are you picking a fight with me

I believe that I have an obligation to my team to not let you policy lynch me, to be blunt.

[RadiantCowbells]

Conversely, a person who thinks that scum is scum at the start of the day then changes their mind ends up voting town, but a person who thinks that town is scum at the start of the day then changes to scum lynches scum. This isn't a complicated arcane science really.

[RadiantCowbells]

OK my team has changed their mind on the validity of preempting this so I'm just going to stop and wait until you actually initiate this conflict whenever it happens.

UNVOTE:

[skitter30]

rc my point is that we literally had the exact same argument at the point of the game where my reads were better so i have no reason to listen to your reads here

and yeah so now i think you're scum trying to tilt me out of this
and yeah you've induced the paranoia that you're apparently trying to avoid

i think it's unfair and scummy to characterize me scumreading you as me trying to pl you (especially when i was not, in fact scumreading you at that point, as we clarified about four different times)
i think it's unfair and scummy to pre-emptively take action against that at a point when you literally had no indication that i was going that route, and when i was walking carefully around you to make sure i *didn't* go that route until/unless i really did scumread you

rc just like ...
what the fuck

[skitter30]

like i don't even have words to properly explain how upset this has made me

i want to vote you now but i don't know if i scumread you or if i'm pissed at you or both

[skitter30]

and i can't believe that all 4 of you decided that this was a good idea

[RadiantCowbells]

I don't like the fact that you're upset but I think that it was literally inevitable that both of us get upset for being in the same game unless one of us was resigned to being lynched in the 1v1. You got mad at me for being annoying when I just tried to post werewords tokens and not get too involved. This just sucked from draft.

and i can't believe that all 4 of you decided that this was a good idea

NSG isn't around, like at all. The rest of my team stopped supporting it when it actually happened. Take that as you will.

[skitter30]

i wasn't mad at the werewords tokens i was just saying that the images were annoying because they were massive and scrolling past them was a pain

that wasn't me instigating anything, that wasn't me getting mad, that was just me saying that it was annoying and i would have said that to literally anyone else

and yeah this situation was shitty from the time the pls were announced but i think the way you lot decided to handle it was wrong on about 4000 different levels
and i think you should just know better than this

and i think you're being unfair wrt your expectations of how i would play this
and i don't know why you'd ever do this as town but i can imagine a lot of reasons you'd think this is a good idea as scum so

[RadiantCowbells]

I care less about winning than resolving this at this point so, I'm a town investigative and I really couldn't afford to have you going after me for bad reasons later and policy lynching you D1 and probably not getting NKed as a result seemed like a good idea at the time.

[skitter30]

yeah it really fucking wasn't

[RadiantCowbells]

I mean. The fact that you going after me is an absolute inevitability makes this entire situation fucky because I can't try to go under the radar and survive and I'm not supposed to play town lead and eat the nightkill either.

[skitter30]

i tried responding to that about 4 times but i don't even know how to articulate how messed up that thought process is

i think i'm going to bounce now

[skitter30]

well that was for the post above that one

you realize that there's a decent chance i just get resolved by eating the nk here, right?

[RCEnigma]

My team said this would happen and I opened this can of worms.

[RadiantCowbells]

well that was for the post above that one

you realize that there's a decent chance i just get resolved by eating the nk here, right?

no

you don't

because you're defending scum

[skitter30]

My team said this would happen and I opened this can of worms.

yeah i was trying to avoid it, thanks

[RCEnigma]

Sorry. I should have avoided the question. But I also didn't want you to continue avoiding me because my paranoia was escalating.

[skitter30]

well that was for the post above that one

you realize that there's a decent chance i just get resolved by eating the nk here, right?

no

you don't

because you're defending scum

rc i've gotten n1'd recently after lolhammering a town doctor

i think it's ridiculously unfair and scummy and just .... egocentric of you to decide to fucking pl me before i made any indication that i was going after you
so that you could avoid being n1'd

just like ...

you realize i'm good at this, right?
a) so there's apparently no other way i could get resolved here
b) instead of letting me do my thing (which we both know i'm good at) for a bit you decide that pl'ing me and forcing a shitty gamestate and just removing me from the game was the best course of action

like ...

[skitter30]

Sorry. I should have avoided the question. But I also didn't want you to continue avoiding me because my paranoia was escalating.

i have no idea how i'm avoiding you, sorry
but i really think i should stop posting now

[RadiantCowbells]

rc i've gotten n1'd recently after lolhammering a town doctor

i think it's ridiculously unfair and scummy and just .... egocentric of you to decide to fucking pl me before i made any indication that i was going after you
so that you could avoid being n1'd

I don't think it was actually all that realistic for me to dodge both the lynch and the nightkill without doing something ~weird~

Between me thinking that your reads are wrong and the fact that I have a PR I'm trying to keep alive and I'm trying to juggle dodging both the nightkill and the lynch which is honestly kind of impossible with the expectations everyone puts on me, like, what am I really supposed to do here?

I don't feel bad for the attempt to lynch you because of anything mechanical, I feel bad because it upset you and that is not worth it.

[skitter30]

VOTE: rc

i really think i should stop posting now

[RadiantCowbells]

anyway

VOTE: Mathblade

best guess as to scumteam is Ari/Mathblade equal likeliness with Plums as slightly less sure third.

[RadiantCowbells]

If that's not it, the game's left a sour taste in my mouth that probably hinders my ability to generate new reads and I doubt town will listen if I give a wider PoE anyway.

[RadiantCowbells]

skitter reaction probtown
already townreading tris
spicy read rc town
also think that rce is town
also think that creature is town

the worst leantown but easily an error vector
bella leantown

xtoxm null, intentionally making themselves unreadable
ico null, unintentionally making themselves unreadable
thilbert?? who? have they posted?

scumreads

ari for reasons given
mathblade tonally plus associatively
plum just isn't doing anything that gives townvibes

i'll continue reading but i'm not gonna post much unless someone asks me for something specific so gl.

[RadiantCowbells]

did i really post creature instead of teacher