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[Volpe14]

Chennis I'll say please go away with the mentality that Ank wallposting "frustation" automatically makes her town.

From a quick glance at that wall she was frustated that RC was warping gamestate and it wasn't getting readable to her apparently. Here she isn't actually frustated on not getting into the gamestate, She is saying "people don't get how to read me" for being called out.

In that game it was like, page 32 and she already was pretty confident in a scum team apparently. Here she didn't even bother with Espresso or trying to get a handle on nulls. It's not the same to me.

[nomnomnom]

Deas maybe you can convince me on nom being town

True

Maybe on nom being scum though

[nomnomnom]

Call it whatever you want but the fact I went from your TR pool to your nullscum pool is inexplicable and that doesn't sound like the town ank I know.

[Ankamius]

Here she isn't actually frustated on not getting into the gamestate, She is saying "people don't get how to read me" for being called out.

No.

I'm literally talking to people and trying to get into their heads and you're coming in saying that you want to vig me for not doing anything

This is either you being delusional or a bizarre bop

[Ankamius]

Deas maybe you can convince me on nom being town

True

Maybe on nom being scum though

Call it whatever you want but the fact I went from your TR pool to your nullscum pool is inexplicable and that doesn't sound like the town ank I know.

Or

Half the game is calling you scum and I don't understand why?

[chennisden]

My read is not predicated on the wallpost and there are other reasons I think it's likely she's town.

She hasn't left her scumrange persay but I think it's really much more likely she's town

[Volpe14]

Ank so far you lack like

your sass

your drive

your insight

You lack everything I actually like about Ank and think it shows her thought process

Here you've "tried" to interact with people almost as if it's a bad copycat version of how you go about it usually, what would make sense because it was in a very comfortable gamestate for you that you wouldn't feel like intentionally changing as scum?

I want to work with you if you're town and I don't want to tunnel but like

time's up let's rock this place man, what do you think of elems jumping on you too right now?

[nomnomnom]

Deas maybe you can convince me on nom being town

True

Maybe on nom being scum though

Call it whatever you want but the fact I went from your TR pool to your nullscum pool is inexplicable and that doesn't sound like the town ank I know.

Or

Half the game is calling you scum and I don't understand why?

If you think I am town why would you need to hear an explanation on why I am town or scum?
It's nonsense, you're not playing to sort people right now and this is not what I know from your town game which is centered around getting townreads and PoEing the rest. You're essentially asking for a second opinion on a slot you think is town. That's nonsense from someone like you.

[Volpe14]

Oh wait, Elems jumped on nomnom, not ank

Elems, explain to the class?

[Volpe14]

I think like

Nomnom jump on Ank is hilariously scummy and scum!nomnom is pretty scummy for me usually but...I don't know man that felt like a weird turn to take as scum, although scum!nomnom would be slightly desperate in this gamestate as well.

[Elements]

Someone said they were scum

[nomnomnom]

Moreover if you're asking someone to convince you on my townieness then that means you are not truly convinced yourself. If your intention was truly gauge why people were scumreading me that question would have never been asked.

I think you're scum this game. Your opening gave me a bad vibe too.

[nomnomnom]

I think like

Nomnom jump on Ank is hilariously scummy and scum!nomnom is pretty scummy for me usually but...I don't know man that felt like a weird turn to take as scum, although scum!nomnom would be slightly desperate in this gamestate as well.

How is that desperation? I'm seeing Ank change her versions on the fact and not playing like I know her townie self does and you're on the same vibe, why would you see my vote as scummy when you're essentially saying the same?

[Volpe14]

You've literally waited me start pushing Ank to say anything about her and you're at a point where almost everyone thinks you're scum and there's no other things getting heated up?

[Farkran]

Gammagoey has improved in his latest couple posts, i'm willing to let this go for now, also because there are more pressing matters to discuss.

I have finally received a review on nom's slot from my team, verdict is scum. In particular we have been discussing about 581, which we agreed that never comes from a town mindset. i.e. why are you upset that your neighborhood is outed when you believe there's scum in it? If there were, it's obvious that it had been outed immediately in the scum PT. Given that nom was scumreading volpe first and was willing to investigate GIF after he finally confirmed the hood, it seems that both pushes come from a scum agenda rather than a deduction from the two slots' play. Getting rid of the player in team with RC is motive enough to have an agenda against him (sorry GIF, but this is a burden you have to carry regardless of whether you are a good player without RC or not); less so about volpe, but the general feeling is that either nom wanted to get rid of the one of the most (now uniquely the most) active players or that he wasn't interested in volpe at all and that vote was just bait for the town.

TL;DR
1. Nom's burst of rage about his hood being outed is NOT consistent with him scumreading either of his hoodmates for it. Outing the hood might be dumb, but absolutely NAI or perhaps even slightly townpoints for dumbness.
2. Even if that burst of rage was naively genuine, post 617 implies that he has been townreading them up to that point. There's no way -from a coolheaded POV- you would think your hood would be protected if there is scum in it.

VOTE: nom we have him as pretty much confirmed scum.

Don't know yet where a nom redflip leaves FL, but it might be redeeming for Ank and pretty much conftowns the rest of nom's hood.

[nomnomnom]

You've literally waited me start pushing Ank to say anything about her and you're at a point where almost everyone thinks you're scum and there's no other things getting heated up?

I've just caught up, I was sick all of yesterday, I came across the two posts I quoted and found it ludicrous so I voted her. Nothing to do with your subsequent posts.

[Volpe14]

Ehh people jumping on nomnom is giving me the creeps bois

[nomnomnom]

Ehh people jumping on nomnom is giving me the creeps bois

I told you this yesterday.

People are waiting for one person to jump in, then scums will profit to pile on and I will be history in a few posts. That's always how it goes. I did tell you that the fact that nobody voted me back then is weird, and that's why.

I am a mislynch bait in this gamestate and you should know this already.

[chennisden]

Same, Volpe, same

[chennisden]

Nom I find this kind of defense from you uncharaceristic

[Ankamius]

Honestly

I'm back to nom being town

[nomnomnom]

Nom I find this kind of defense from you uncharaceristic

I normally wouldn't be this defensive but this is team mafia and I don't want to be mislynched on day one, especially when that never happened before. Would be humiliating for it to happen right now.

Besides I want to solve this game.

[Farkran]

Can we get a VC? I'm pretty sure nom only has 3 votes from GIF, elements and me now, and i didn't even read elements vote because i was writing my post in the meanwhile.

This is hardly "jumping on someone's wagon". Nom is just scum.

[Volpe14]

I am a mislynch bait in this gamestate and you should know this already.

No I shouldn't and by statistic the "you should know" comes more often from scum than town

Don't try to pocket the fact that I think it's interesting the sudden hard turns on you, if you're town (or scum anyway), I think you interacting with the people voting you/talking about them would be more useful to me than directly telling me "I'm town, I'm town, I'm town"

[nomnomnom]

Can we get a VC? I'm pretty sure nom only has 3 votes from GIF, elements and me now, and i didn't even read elements vote because i was writing my post in the meanwhile.

This is hardly "jumping on someone's wagon". Nom is just scum.

Your reason for voting me is hilariously stupid because you're trying to get logic out of an emotional moment which is one of the biggest fallacy in mafia.
Get a grip.