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[chennisden]

I also doubt scum Ank fakes being in a bad headspace for this game

[nomnomnom]

Lowkey the reason I posted my "I was expecting a psychological analysis of my slot" at the beginning of the game" by the way, that's how well I think I know you.

[Almost50]

Ehh people jumping on nomnom is giving me the creeps bois

I told you this yesterday.

People are waiting for one person to jump in, then scums will profit to pile on and I will be history in a few posts. That's always how it goes. I did tell you that the fact that nobody voted me back then is weird, and that's why.

I am a mislynch bait in this gamestate and you should know this already.

Who are you calling scum that are piking on you specifically?

Note: The reason I'm not voting you myself is skitt's read on you. I am leaning Scum on you, but she is leaning Town. On D1 I will trust skitter's reads over my own. She only got to page 20 or so though.

[Ankamius]

like hardcore BoPed

You're not being BoP'ed.

It's really more about you being more a caricature of yourself to me than anything like "I expected you to have solved the game already"

this is what happens when I'm not actually confident in what I'm thinking

this is a high enough tier playerlist that if I'm not really understanding half the game and I'm hard disagreeing with a read that a lot of people are having, then my first thought is "what am I missing" rather than "why are they wrong"

[nomnomnom]

Ehh people jumping on nomnom is giving me the creeps bois

I told you this yesterday.

People are waiting for one person to jump in, then scums will profit to pile on and I will be history in a few posts. That's always how it goes. I did tell you that the fact that nobody voted me back then is weird, and that's why.

I am a mislynch bait in this gamestate and you should know this already.

Who are you calling scum that are piking on you specifically?

Note: The reason I'm not voting you myself is skitt's read on you. I am leaning Scum on you, but she is leaning Town. On D1 I will trust skitter's reads over my own. She only got to page 20 or so though.

Skitter knows my scumgame pretty well so that's a wise decision.
I was moreso talking about the general gamestate rather than specific people, but Farkran still feels odd to me, if I need to be honest. Bad reasoning and it feels like he's overexplaining himself for what feels like a simple wagon to follow. Maybe he's just not that good at scumreading people. What do you think?

[Farkran]

I don't want to talk about my hood anymore only thinking about all of this makes me angry

because of the effort I put in to make sure our hood wasn't outed

but I guess bumbling not thinking idiot cannot read a PT and decides to lose his shit over a vote I pondered for a while.

I mean are you telling me it never once occurred to you that if there is scum in your hood, your so called effort to not out it in the main thread is completely and utterly useless? This post is lamisty and a bad display of TMI about your hoodmates.

In the case we're all town this is disastrous to do and since I don't know for sure the alignments of my 2 other neighbors then I just assume the worst scenario.

your case is honestly pretty bad and if you want to scumread me you might as well re-read my iso and base it on something that isn't 1 dollar armchair psychology

If you assume the worst scenario you wouldn't "put effort" in protecting the identity of your hood, you would just not out it and hope they aren't scum - or at the very least you wouldn't get angry when it gets outed

right after you scumread one of them

.

Sorry, no. This does not make any sense, and it's not like i would expect scum!you to consider my case against you any good, you know

[Volpe14]

I also doubt scum Ank fakes being in a bad headspace for this game

Do you think that scum!Ank would have all the usual sass/drive that town!Ank has and begin to limit her lynch pool/lynch possibilities in the game if she was content with gamestate?

Like, if we consider now town!nomnom getting wagoned, scum!Ank couldn't jump on her because nomnom would get sus, so throwing a TR and being lukewarm on it would be a good play to let town eat itself and...

exactly what happened??????

Honestly I'm dropping my confidence on you being town because you seem trying to justify why ank is town here rather than approaching this from a "is ank town or scum?"

[chennisden]

See the thing is, I expect scum Ank not to be so brazenly out of her headspace and struggling to get in the game

She has other tools she could use, and this doesn't even help her coast at all

[nomnomnom]

If you assume the worst scenario you wouldn't "put effort" in protecting the identity of your hood, you would just not out it and hope they aren't scum - or at the very least you wouldn't get angry when it gets outed right after you scumread one of them.

Sorry, no. This does not make any sense, and it's not like i would expect scum!you to consider my case against you any good, you know

You probably should stop the $1 armchair psychology sessions it'll make you look stupid more than once.

Even if I had a red role PM this game that reasoning is honestly atrocious.
You don't know me, you've never played with me, you don't know me as a person, we've never talked and we've never had a discussion about the game. Why do you think you're qualified to judge me psychologically and emotionally? Just stop. It's honestly very stupid.

[davesaz]

I think we should really focus on people who aren't brazenly scummy but more feel like they're playing from the sidelines

Dave and Elements are the poster kids of this

Putting me in that category is utter bullshit.

[Volpe14]

Ok Ank let's start talking about your read on me in that case.

I know scum!me had a lot of sass about being obvtown but I'm serious this time

Why I'm not one of your strongest town reads here?

The amount of direction, flopping, emotion etc I did put in this game just sticks out like a shining beam compared to my scum games where I was far more one-directional.

Not only you didn't put me in a very high TR, you didn't approach me either.

[Volpe14]

See the thing is, I expect scum Ank not to be so brazenly out of her headspace and struggling to get in the game

She has other tools she could use, and this doesn't even help her coast at all

What kind of tools?

Not restricting the lynch pool that's pretty wide in this game, not putting cohesion in town and giving a good excuse to be alive in late game seems like very reasonable reasons for her acting like this?

How exactly you think she would go about this if scum?

[chennisden]

You described Town Ank as having

sass

I'd say I expect scum ank to be more

aggressive

[Ankamius]

my townblock is getting bigger and I'm happy about that

I hope it doesn't have either nom or FL there.

honey I have bad news for you

I'm really probably not listening to you in that case Ank

why would you say that as town?

why would you say that as town?

I think you might have bad reads this time around?

I'm doubtful you can say anything to change my mind on either of them.

I've seen nomnom play so meta isn't really helpful here

I don't think you're a FL specialist such that you've a 90% or around that read accuracy on him, therefore I'm not putting your read on him over mine (and like, meta doesn't really help in his case)

I'm really not interested in your slot altogether right now other than considering you could help us out on their wagons

But like, I'm gonna at least read your posts, but I doubt I'll care that much

ngl volpe

I think I have a better grasp of nom's game than you do

FL is a lot more likely to be caught indirectly later so I'm not going to think too hard on his alignment now

I don't know why you would specifically say that you aren't going to listen to me instead of immediately just hard disagreeing or really anything but that?

I don't know why you would specifically say that you aren't going to listen to me instead of immediately just hard disagreeing or really anything but that?

After 15 pages here I'm done and in a sour mood to discuss about it so...

I probably should sleep.

[Ankamius]

I actually completely forgot about that exchange until I saw it again but odds are good that's why I got turned off from talking to you

[Ankamius]

and that was like... immediately after I came back after the thread exploded

[Farkran]

If you assume the worst scenario you wouldn't "put effort" in protecting the identity of your hood, you would just not out it and hope they aren't scum - or at the very least you wouldn't get angry when it gets outed right after you scumread one of them.

Sorry, no. This does not make any sense, and it's not like i would expect scum!you to consider my case against you any good, you know

You probably should stop the $1 armchair psychology sessions it'll make you look stupid more than once.

Even if I had a red role PM this game that reasoning is honestly atrocious.
You don't know me, you've never played with me, you don't know me as a person, we've never talked and we've never had a discussion about the game. Why do you think you're qualified to judge me psychologically and emotionally? Just stop. It's honestly very stupid.

You are failing to understand that this is nothing about psychological analysis

This is very simple LOGICAL analysis of a scumslip that you made. Emotion, or my lack of knowledge of your psychological profile have literally nothing to do with this, i don't even know why you're basing your defense on that. If you have anything relevant to add, feel free to, otherwise i'm done getting called stupid by scum. Other people are talking and keeping up this argument is pointless.

[Ankamius]

If you assume the worst scenario you wouldn't "put effort" in protecting the identity of your hood, you would just not out it and hope they aren't scum - or at the very least you wouldn't get angry when it gets outed right after you scumread one of them.

Sorry, no. This does not make any sense, and it's not like i would expect scum!you to consider my case against you any good, you know

You probably should stop the $1 armchair psychology sessions it'll make you look stupid more than once.

Even if I had a red role PM this game that reasoning is honestly atrocious.
You don't know me, you've never played with me, you don't know me as a person, we've never talked and we've never had a discussion about the game. Why do you think you're qualified to judge me psychologically and emotionally? Just stop. It's honestly very stupid.

You are failing to understand that this is nothing about psychological analysis

This is very simple LOGICAL analysis of a scumslip that you made. Emotion, or my lack of knowledge of your psychological profile have literally nothing to do with this, i don't even know why you're basing your defense on that. If you have anything relevant to add, feel free to, otherwise i'm done getting called stupid by scum. Other people are talking and keeping up this argument is pointless.

you can't read nom3 logically

I'm pretty certain that is literally impossible

[chennisden]

I also doubt scum Ank fakes being in a bad headspace for this game

Do you think that scum!Ank would have all the usual sass/drive that town!Ank has and begin to limit her lynch pool/lynch possibilities in the game if she was content with gamestate?

Like, if we consider now town!nomnom getting wagoned, scum!Ank couldn't jump on her because nomnom would get sus, so throwing a TR and being lukewarm on it would be a good play to let town eat itself and...

exactly what happened??????

Honestly I'm dropping my confidence on you being town because you seem trying to justify why ank is town here rather than approaching this from a "is ank town or scum?"

The last sentence is extremely scummy

Am I overprojecting my confidence on this read? Probably

But that's because your scumreads on Ank are really weird from my POV

[nomnomnom]

If you assume the worst scenario you wouldn't "put effort" in protecting the identity of your hood, you would just not out it and hope they aren't scum - or at the very least you wouldn't get angry when it gets outed right after you scumread one of them.

Sorry, no. This does not make any sense, and it's not like i would expect scum!you to consider my case against you any good, you know

You probably should stop the $1 armchair psychology sessions it'll make you look stupid more than once.

Even if I had a red role PM this game that reasoning is honestly atrocious.
You don't know me, you've never played with me, you don't know me as a person, we've never talked and we've never had a discussion about the game. Why do you think you're qualified to judge me psychologically and emotionally? Just stop. It's honestly very stupid.

You are failing to understand that this is nothing about psychological analysis

This is very simple LOGICAL analysis of a scumslip that you made. Emotion, or my lack of knowledge of your psychological profile have literally nothing to do with this, i don't even know why you're basing your defense on that. If you have anything relevant to add, feel free to, otherwise i'm done getting called stupid by scum. Other people are talking and keeping up this argument is pointless.

lol

prepare to feel stupid

[nomnomnom]

What ank said isn't even special to me. Logic in mafia doesn't exist. Just don't.

[Volpe14]

1. It wasn't you that approached me, it was me that approached you there

2. Fair but I said "I'm at least gonna read your words there", like, I would actually read what you have to say but probably wouldn't change my mind on nomnom in that moment

3. You didn't really debate with my arguments or anyone's in nomnom being scum. You said pretty much "I think nomnom is town, I know her better than you probably". Like, you even ask DV "convince me on nomnom scum" when he had just talked about his reasons to SR nomnom. It felt really like posting for the sake of posting.

[Ankamius]

this is what happens when I'm not actually confident in what I'm thinking

this is a high enough tier playerlist that if I'm not really understanding half the game and I'm hard disagreeing with a read that a lot of people are having, then my first thought is "what am I missing" rather than "why are they wrong"

[chennisden]

And the "I'm dropping my confidence on you being town" is really really obviously manipulative. You're trying to strongarm me into publicly taking a worse position on Ank

[davesaz]

@GiF -- current reads on nom & Volpe? Also what were your reads on them before FL's push?

Disappointed there wasn't a response to this. It's an important piece of data to understand something else that GiF posted.