Team Mafia 2020: Open Setup - Game Over

[Hectic]

UNVOTE:

Hectic is town. Get your votes off of him.

Here I thought you thought I was a doc softing.

No wait. I’m confused now.

Here I thought you realised I was a nieghbour, so I can't be doc.

No wait. I’m confused now.

But he’s town.

VOTE: Eddie

Back on Eddie for now - not interested in voting Hectic any longer.

So I was confused when you made this post, since I thought it was for other reasons.

Can you tell me why you made that post - the stethoscope one?

There's no secret calculated reason, Nancy. I was just

memeing

as they call it nowadays.

When you called me town, did you still think I was a PR softing? If so, what were you confused about in the post preceding that one?

[Nancy Drew 39]

@Hectic

If you had to pick some to vote as they are teh player you think is most likely scum. Who woudl it be?

I don't think this question is helpful, because I don't have anyone I think is significantly more likely to be scum than random.

If I were to pick a scumread or a vote based off of very little things, that will have the effect of amplifying the read, probably causing people to believe it's stronger than it is and ask me to explain it and then be confused when my reasons aren't strong, and it may cause me to confbias on it.

Whereas, there's no benefit from doing so. I can be read just fine (in fact, probably better) without it.

This is one of S_S's posts that is one of his goodpostings

and its logic applies to how I am not eager to justify a read for the 999th time that I'm not sure about

With some effort I could articulate some elements of what's a mismatch, some of it is harder to articulate

I can tell you virtually none of the patterns were present in Crown, I don't know if that's incidental or if S_S tends to play IC differently.

VOTE: Krazy

Bad vote

[Something_Smart]

I know at least one person who won’t be getting a paragon nom next year. Did you guess you? And you will always be the very LAST person on this site, I will ever be accepting criticisms wrt to my behaviour.

Can we not

[Nancy Drew 39]

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Remind me where have I played with you before, Amrun.

We have a couple games that haven’t finished but they weren’t what I was referring to anyway. We do have Radja’s game finished where you were in a hydra. I fully intended to mislynch your slot there but town vigged you first.

But I’ve been reading a lot of different games as a Scummies judge and trying to re-familiarize myself after my absence.


Pine strikes me as town so far.


@pops: I don’t like the insinuation that I don’t have my own reads. I have clearly delineated my reads from skitter’s at all times. She didn’t even catch up until last night. It was just when she had time. She has a few that I haven’t shared since they weren’t excessively important and I hadn’t formed my own opinion on them (Nancy scumlean, Krazy townlean, Oka town, I’d have to review the convo for the rest). I do agree with Oka town at this point but I personally have zero read on Krazy. My point is, if I were scum trying to fabricate a read, I had no reason at all to even reveal skitter’s read, especially in that specific way.

I’m really shocked at this Amrun, I thought you could read me better by now.

I literally didn’t even mention a read on you in this post. That was Skitter’s read.

Also of note, skitter doesn’t think Pine is towny so far, rereading my own post reminded me to mention.

Interesting. I’m not liking how he’s trying so hard to push me and Krazy as the scumteam, especially after Auro locktowned him. However he also incorrectly read me in Vengeful Ghosts until Dann mech cleared us, so him wrongly sr me is NAI but then I’m still a bit suspicious of his opening. Did he really slip neighbour or was that intentional? I’m still null on him, however. What exactly is Skitter’s reasoning for thinking he’s scum here?

[Nancy Drew 39]

I think if I'm in your solve you have a 0% chance of being right
I still townread you though

If I’m in your solve, look fwd to being dead wrong, same probably with Krazy. He hides, lurks, coasts as scum. Read that game I linked. Both me and Ank were lock convinced on Krazy scum in that.

[Nancy Drew 39]

Nancy who on your team thinks ur obvtown

Oka, please stop asking me weird questions.

[Nancy Drew 39]

UNVOTE:

Hectic is town. Get your votes off of him.

Here I thought you thought I was a doc softing.

No wait. I’m confused now.

Here I thought you realised I was a nieghbour, so I can't be doc.

No wait. I’m confused now.

But he’s town.

VOTE: Eddie

Back on Eddie for now - not interested in voting Hectic any longer.

So I was confused when you made this post, since I thought it was for other reasons.

Can you tell me why you made that post - the stethoscope one?

There's no secret calculated reason, Nancy. I was just

memeing

as they call it nowadays.

When you called me town, did you still think I was a PR softing? If so, what were you confused about in the post preceding that one?

I thought you outed PR, doc specifically but then I remembered that you obviously couldn’t be doc, because of Titus.

[Nancy Drew 39]

I know at least one person who won’t be getting a paragon nom next year. Did you guess you? And you will always be the very LAST person on this site, I will ever be accepting criticisms wrt to my behaviour.

Can we not

No, Pine seems to feel he has some God given right to pass moral judgement on me and lecture me all over this goddamned forum and I’m frankly sick of it.

[OkaPoka]

Ask them on discord or I'll lynch you

[Nancy Drew 39]

I know at least one person who won’t be getting a paragon nom next year. Did you guess you? And you will always be the very LAST person on this site, I will ever be accepting criticisms wrt to my behaviour.

Can we not

No, Pine seems to feel he has some God given right to pass moral judgement on me and lecture me all over this goddamned forum and I’m frankly sick of it.

I’m fed up with his condescending attitude and constantly talking down to me. Right from the first post, he insulted my intelligence re: the setup but I ignored that but then he kept doing it.

[Nancy Drew 39]

Ask them on discord or I'll lynch you

Ask who what and why are you being a woat?

[OkaPoka]

Ask your teammates if they think you are being obvtown and why

[Nancy Drew 39]

Ask them on discord or I'll lynch you

Ask who what and why are you being a woat?

Btw, you’re not RC and don’t fucking threaten me, especially with things out of my control, ffs!

[OkaPoka]

It's very much in your control go ask them please

[Nancy Drew 39]

Ask your teammates if they think you are being obvtown and why

I know I’m obvtown and you’re being a woat. Ask me questions like Eddie asked. I’m not wasting their time with idiotic questions.

[Nancy Drew 39]

It's very much in your control go ask them please

Why tf would I ask them something I already know? Like seriously, ask me real questions to ask them and I’ll happily oblige.

[OkaPoka]

Maybe I want their opinions?

[bob3141]

@Hectic

If you had to pick some to vote as they are teh player you think is most likely scum. Who woudl it be?

I don't think this question is helpful, because I don't have anyone I think is significantly more likely to be scum than random.

If I were to pick a scumread or a vote based off of very little things, that will have the effect of amplifying the read, probably causing people to believe it's stronger than it is and ask me to explain it and then be confused when my reasons aren't strong, and it may cause me to confbias on it.

Whereas, there's no benefit from doing so. I can be read just fine (in fact, probably better) without it.

This is one of S_S's posts that is one of his goodpostings

and its logic applies to how I am not eager to justify a read for the 999th time that I'm not sure about

With some effort I could articulate some elements of what's a mismatch, some of it is harder to articulate

I can tell you virtually none of the patterns were present in Crown, I don't know if that's incidental or if S_S tends to play IC differently.

VOTE: Krazy

Bad vote

Do you think its a bad vote because you think the reasoning is bad. Or just based on your read of krazy

Also were do you think that players vote comes from. Whether a town just having bad reads or scummy.

[Nancy Drew 39]

Maybe I want their opinions?

But you know their my teammates and obviously biased, so I don’t really understand how this helps but okay fine. I still haven’t gotten their responses to Eddie’s question yet.

[bob3141]

Ask your teammates if they think you are being obvtown and why

I know I’m obvtown and you’re being a woat. Ask me questions like Eddie asked. I’m not wasting their time with idiotic questions.

So if you were to look back through the game. Where do you think you have been obvous towning .

[OkaPoka]

K cool thx

[popsofctown]

To be fair I didn't provide reasoning in that post bob

But it's based on feelings I had before and how Pine's reframed the slot too

[Amrun]

Halfway through this catchup, my son woke up with a fever of 104.6 so even though I read eberhjbng past where I last commented I’m not processing it. On the way to the ER. Sometimes when they’re doing testing on him I like to withdraw into distractions and sometimes I can’t concentrate on it so depending on how today goes I might be disconnected.

[Nancy Drew 39]

@Hectic

If you had to pick some to vote as they are teh player you think is most likely scum. Who woudl it be?

I don't think this question is helpful, because I don't have anyone I think is significantly more likely to be scum than random.

If I were to pick a scumread or a vote based off of very little things, that will have the effect of amplifying the read, probably causing people to believe it's stronger than it is and ask me to explain it and then be confused when my reasons aren't strong, and it may cause me to confbias on it.

Whereas, there's no benefit from doing so. I can be read just fine (in fact, probably better) without it.

This is one of S_S's posts that is one of his goodpostings

and its logic applies to how I am not eager to justify a read for the 999th time that I'm not sure about

With some effort I could articulate some elements of what's a mismatch, some of it is harder to articulate

I can tell you virtually none of the patterns were present in Crown, I don't know if that's incidental or if S_S tends to play IC differently.

VOTE: Krazy

Bad vote

Do you think its a bad vote because you think the reasoning is bad. Or just based on your read of krazy

Also were do you think that players vote comes from. Whether a town just having bad reads or scummy.

The latter. I think he’s town here. I don’t know, as I’ve already stated, Krazy gets wrongly sr a lot to anyone unfamiliar with his meta and Titus is suspicious of her but she was initially one of my strongest tr. I still lean town on her.

[Nancy Drew 39]

Ask your teammates if they think you are being obvtown and why

I know I’m obvtown and you’re being a woat. Ask me questions like Eddie asked. I’m not wasting their time with idiotic questions.

So if you were to look back through the game. Where do you think you have been obvous towning .

Because I never play like this as scum. And DDL is apparently one of the few who is seeing that.