you'll note i have not shifted my vote.In post 1032, Look At Me Im So Town wrote:We may have caught scum and you want to redirect to lynch Mena? Ducky, literally wtf is this?In post 1015, the worst wrote:can we plynch mena
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(plynch = policy lynch sorry)
i'm actively aware i need to reread mena but his iso makes me want to throw up rnIn post 1018, Alduskkel wrote:also tw what do you think of uncrowned and LAMIST townreading Menalque? If emps flipped town would you still scumread him?
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hmm i hadn't ID'd you and agree you're within scumrange but i do think some of the stuff you've done here tends towny.In post 1028, JJJ wrote:eth0s- the worst
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: 3 ~In post 1029, Uncrowned wrote:OHHH HAIIII FORMER SCUM BUDDY
Man I'm really curious. Are the differences between my scum and town that obvious? (That's directed at TW too, also we can leave this for post game so we dont derail if you guys want lol)
you're actually not super easy to read correctly as scum tbh. but sometimes you obvtown really hard, and this game you were kinda ambiently towny d1 in a way that's pretty hard to fake as scum.- the worst
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:3In post 1030, Look At Me Im So Town wrote:
You earlier said theres like a 100% chance of you being the lynch, now you're saying if we hit scum? Yeah, this is role fishing.In post 1004, emps wrote:if we hit scum today and uncr dies we still know that theyre cleared
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apology accepted. ♥ you're still wonderful, and sometimes caring a lot can be exhausting. just uh... try and not care that much if you can avoid it y'know?In post 1038, Menalque wrote:eh I'm sorry about last night
I was drinking and got frustrated
I mean I still am frustrated but yeah, I apologise for the toxicity
knowing it's eth0s makes me a lot weaker on hh!scum
I think ducky is probably the partner
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this is like, a perfect 5-6/10 suggestion even if you are scumIn post 1044, JJJ wrote:I think that we should be Uncrowned's target tonight to clear us, since we're apparently null or confusing for a lot of people, so that would clear us. - Y
ico/lamist optimal clears imo
i think i'm probably a slightly better than average target but also trust my ability to obvtown lategame so i'll leave this to uncrowned's discretion
he should announce target before EOD tho, emps can selfhammer- Uncrowned
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I don't want to be rude or anything but I don't see any choice other than Mena being optimal. Isn't he the one causing the most controversy in this game in terms of perceived alignment?
LAMIST isn't a bad call, I think they've gone ever so slightly under the radar, but after doing my full game re-read I had them as I a decent TR.
If Emps flips Goon here, I'm inclined to believe HH is possible scum, or The Worst. They've both been the most vocal about receiving my roleblock. I also believe this makes Mena innocent.
If Emps flips PR here, then I'm not sure. IF we have a babysitter though. I'd suggest you be on me tonight, or at least let that WIFOM sit there so that I'm not selected as a target. Or if you think scum can read you, pick someone else or don't pick at all. Let's confuse them.
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I think declaring who you're going to rb is redundant because if it's on someone sufficiently scummy then scum can just no kill to get a Lynch the next day
like assume that emps flips scum
you declare you're gonna RB me
there's no nk
you think this town is ever not lynching me the day after?
then once I flip green they'll NK you (or they'll have narrowed down the babysitter possibilities if they think/know we're in one of those setups and want to go for a 2for1) and it's a messy fuckin 4p mylo or if we're lucky a 5p where we have a lynch to spare before lylo- Menalque
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and that doesn't mean that you're terrible if you're town and have just got it wrong because mafia is hard
it's just that if I'm BoPing you as part of my read I just believe it's much more likely that you're fabricating a scumread on me bc I am probably mislynchable at this point as much as I shouldn't be (obviously, I don't mean today, I mean tomorrow) so it's a chance for you to get rid of me without taking toooo much heat for it and I do think that's something scum!you probably does want to do- Uncrowned
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this is solid 3d chess in theory but it forces scum to basically no kill until they're happy to IC someone like - if we continuously aim to roleblock the scummiest person then worst case scenario this becomes a nightless game which is hugely +ev?In post 1060, Menalque wrote:I think declaring who you're going to rb is redundant because if it's on someone sufficiently scummy then scum can just no kill to get a Lynch the next day
like assume that emps flips scum
you declare you're gonna RB me
there's no nk
you think this town is ever not lynching me the day after?
then once I flip green they'll NK you (or they'll have narrowed down the babysitter possibilities if they think/know we're in one of those setups and want to go for a 2for1) and it's a messy fuckin 4p mylo or if we're lucky a 5p where we have a lynch to spare before lylo- the worst
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sorry to remain contrarian but it's simply not worth withholding your roleblock target.- Alduskkel
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actually aldus has the good point
it's strictly optimal to say, for example
if emps flips scum i'm blocking mena
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i can't remember the acronym lmaoIn post 1070, Uncrowned wrote:What is +ev ??
at a mathematical level, town is more likely to win (mena's scenario removes the scum NK from the game, and allows us to continue to lynch slots we want to, just soft-lead by you,
effectively).
not stating targets in the event emps flips town is fine- AaronFrost
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I think Mena is probably the smartest call if only because we need to sort out his alignment asap. I'd say him or duck.In post 1057, Uncrowned wrote:I don't want to be rude or anything but I don't see any choice other than Mena being optimal. Isn't he the one causing the most controversy in this game in terms of perceived alignment?
LAMIST isn't a bad call, I think they've gone ever so slightly under the radar, but after doing my full game re-read I had them as I a decent TR.
LAMIST has been pretty neutral so far today but I still think they're town overall.
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