Team Mafia 2020: Normal Game (Endgame)

[RadiantCowbells]

Why do you think that I as scum would slip up in who I voted?

You realize that is exactly the kind of thing that I excel at as scum, correct?

[skitter30]

i may have been in a hood with you (?) i'm not sure, i don't remember the details @math

[MathBlade]

i may have been in a hood with you (?) i'm not sure, i don't remember the details @math

Nah I was hood less. I wanted the cop to check me for an inno.

I just swapped you and Chip.

I was dumb. Makes my meta read bad and I should revisit your posts.

[MathBlade]

Why do you think that I as scum would slip up in who I voted?

You realize that is exactly the kind of thing that I excel at as scum, correct?

Where is this coming from? I didn’t say anything about a slip up? I am asking Skitter this question for a reason.

And this I wouldn’t classify as a slip up. After being pointed out for almost a page where your vote is and not changing it, and not deliberating voting a scumread that wouldn’t be a slip up if I scumread you. That would be deliberate.

[MathBlade]

Apparently I am making up words now XD deliberating = deliberately (intentionally)

[skitter30]

This is another post of Bella’s that ignores the main track of conversation and starts another wagon about a recent scumspect. I don’t see her like of thought either.

i thought the timing of her vote on me was kinda off, it felt sort of band-wagon-y because it came just after teacher/tw were suspecting me and her reasons for voting me basically boiled down to 'don't like her posting'

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what are you finding scummy abt this tho

i didn't say i found it scummy
i said i didn't like it, and it's the sort of thing that is making it hard for me to get a solid read there

historically this is very far from my expectation. town!rc thrives off forcing friction and reading the fallout; scum!rc tends to be towny enough to coast until he's called out and THEN forces conflict
wouldn't say he does bare minimum as scum but he feels more like he needs reads here imo

this isn't really how i'd say i understand his game tbh

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@math, how have i gone from derp-town (possibly) to scum based on an opening that didn't engage much with the game when like, I made it clear i was skim reading and had paid the most attention to the last few pages, and then went back and literally said 'wow, my read on rce was dumb'.

You've basically invented a narrative.

ok
let's get into this
what narrative do you think that math invented here, because i'm not sure i'm really seeing what you're seeing ?
as best i can tell you're talking about his read on you in 586 but i'm not following where the rce vote comes int

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the math/rc bickering thing is kinda exhausting me

[skitter30]

tw
hi

let's talk about why you think i'm scum

[skitter30]

1. Post count by your previous logic
2. Pushing back on RCE’s gratuitous TL of me.
3. Raising matters of interest in my own time and not being driven off how I approach the game for the sake of appeasing the others who’ve voiced the same view as you. They don’t know better, you do, and it gives me the vibes of blendy laziness with a side of leaving me open.

I think that while this is more evidence that teacher is lock!town, the reasoning is imho bad.

Post logic should never be contributing to alignment unless some meta reasons.

I don’t see why the TL of you is gratuitous? You are one of my strongest townreads if not the strongest.

I don’t understand the last one?

to be fair there were/are meta reasons

[skitter30]

i'm purposefully ignoring the posts you lot made about me, i think

[skitter30]

I also think Teacher is weirdly town
like I'm not quite sure what I'd point to for why but I don't think he's scum

i'm actually kinda befuddled by the teacher tr's
i don't really see it tbh

[skitter30]

Or to put it this way

I don't think Bella is scum unless Ari is as well I think

i'm acutally really confused why everyone is so fixated on ari

like when he shows up we'll try to sort him
i think his entrance was lowkey townie, i don't get the urgency in this rn at all

[MathBlade]

Or to put it this way

I don't think Bella is scum unless Ari is as well I think

i'm acutally really confused why everyone is so fixated on ari

like when he shows up we'll try to sort him
i think his entrance was lowkey townie, i don't get the urgency in this rn at all

I have a couple of reasons I can’t say why yet. But this wagon whether it goes through to lynch or not gives a lot of wagon info.

[skitter30]

like out of everyone in the game what's the point of wagoning the guy that's not here and isn't going to be here for like a week ...
i just feel like there's better avenues to pursue rn

if we need to build wagons for the sake of building wagons let's pressure xtoxm or the replacement dude who at least might give an interesting response

[skitter30]

I'm voting marhblade for pushing a narrative that just isn't happening. I find it weird they are trying to set up a big story about my what, five posts?

can you like summarize this narrative?
because i'm not entirely sure it, like, exists

[MathBlade]

like out of everyone in the game what's the point of wagoning the guy that's not here and isn't going to be here for like a week ...
i just feel like there's better avenues to pursue rn

if we need to build wagons for the sake of building wagons let's pressure xtoxm or the replacement dude who at least might give an interesting response

They aren’t here either

X one shot and poof

Flopz isn’t here til tomorrow

This Ari wagon is juicy. It’s me and RC scumread.

[skitter30]

Aloha Muchachos. Hectic and Hopkirk have told me to sheep RC until they have a chance to look at the thread (might be a while). I'm not sure if they're joking or not but they've been quite relentless. It's 23.31 here so I'm gonna head off but I would like to reassure you that I will not replace out too, probably.

VOTE: mathblade

meh

[skitter30]

I ask because while your initial post about the party hat was innocuous, your responses to Math calling it out were a little less so. I could see it from a newbie or someone like Nancy Drew

(sorry my compadre but it's apt and I know you understand) who is more likely to take things more emotionally or personally on a quick read. You seemed a lot more ruffled by Math than you needed to be.

this was like ... really random ...
but idk like how this thought process even like enters his head if he's scum here

[skitter30]

They aren’t here either

X one shot and poof

well maybe wagoning him will unpoof him

either way i think in a vaccuum if we're just searching for someone to wagon this would be better than the guy who's not going to be here for like half hte phase

[MathBlade]

I ask because while your initial post about the party hat was innocuous, your responses to Math calling it out were a little less so. I could see it from a newbie or someone like Nancy Drew

(sorry my compadre but it's apt and I know you understand) who is more likely to take things more emotionally or personally on a quick read. You seemed a lot more ruffled by Math than you needed to be.

this was like ... really random ...
but idk like how this thought process even like enters his head if he's scum here

I do. Buddying me.

[skitter30]

If anything this means that if Ari is scum Tris is town due to the risk of a wagon actually succeeding and not being able to move his vote would be bad.

also like no this isn't how p2 wagon-based associatives work

[MathBlade]

They aren’t here either

X one shot and poof

well maybe wagoning him will unpoof him

either way i think in a vaccuum if we're just searching for someone to wagon this would be better than the guy who's not going to be here for like half hte phase

Nah Ari pops in and out during VLAs sometimes.

Xtom would be a better vig or force replace. Ari has content

[skitter30]

I ask because while your initial post about the party hat was innocuous, your responses to Math calling it out were a little less so. I could see it from a newbie or someone like Nancy Drew

(sorry my compadre but it's apt and I know you understand) who is more likely to take things more emotionally or personally on a quick read. You seemed a lot more ruffled by Math than you needed to be.

this was like ... really random ...
but idk like how this thought process even like enters his head if he's scum here

I do. Buddying me.

i mean:

a) that's a remarkably egocentric way to read that interaction
b) why'd he push tris here and not me or plum given that iirc you were going after both of us there too

[MathBlade]

A> Yes it is. But buddying is a good way to get a person who is vocal to keep you around.
B> maybe it was easier? I don’t know that’s a guess.

What I do know is <redacted> hasn’t happened yet and should have happened and I wanna not spoil that.

[skitter30]

@Skitter Tell me what you make of me + RC and RC not voting Ari when you get caught up and not before please.

you + rc are exhausting to read rn ngl
i don't have super many thoughts but i think that you trying to work with rc/his reads is probably +town for you
i don't think i can give a good read on rc rn

i agree with him that voting ari is not going to accomplish super much rn

i think i want to go here
VOTE: bella

[RadiantCowbells]

i mean:

a) that's a remarkably egocentric way to read that interaction
b) why'd he push tris here and not me or plum given that iirc you were going after both of us there too

do u remember my theory that it might be a tmi scumread