Team Mafia 2020: Normal Game (Endgame)

[tris]

i've come to the end of that skitter/rc interaction and i think that's town!skitter.

[Iconeum]

anyone have strong feelings on this
ico it feels like you've compiled a list of things which ~look~ bad about plum but i don't feel really compelled to believe that these make you think she's scum

Oh
Yeah

This is kinda basically what i was thinking too
It kinda felt like he saw plum was a thing so he decided to join it and come up with reasons why

And i didnt like that he started his entrance calling my plum vote yuck, and then voted/cased her without really getting back to why he didnt like mine

skitter wanna talk about this?

[Iconeum]

Ico should explain his progression on me, it is not a good look that he made a case on me that was explained entirely by posts I had made, unvoted when I helpfully quoted from my ISO, and has declined to acknowledge that I've asked him to discuss the matter. Just like pretending the issue doesn't exist and hoping it will go away on its own?

i saw stuff that pinged me

you replied with stuff that explained it

it was good enough for me

i unvoted

[Iconeum]

I'm townreading skitter and RC based on their 1v1

more specifically that skitter is taking the 1v1 instead of trying to get underneath it, which would be scum indicating to me
and I can see RC attempting to sort this game out

[Iconeum]

I really don't like Bella here.

5 posts in the game:

-opens with a scumread and vote on RCE, makes a statement on xtoxm's opening that is scumreading it? not sure
-next post now it likes RCE? doesn't really feel like sorting
-votes skitter because?
-makes a vague statement on skitter that is fencesitting wrt skitter in #610

[Iconeum]

then switches to math leaving previous scumreads for what they are...

[Iconeum]

VOTE: bella

[Xtoxm]

just vig him 4head
reeks of scum saving an easy lynch for later
how often do you get vigs in a mini normal

[Iconeum]

just vig him 4head
reeks of scum saving an easy lynch for later
how often do you get vigs in a mini normal

wat

[RCEnigma]

just vig him 4head
reeks of scum saving an easy lynch for later
how often do you get vigs in a mini normal

Pretty often.

Tbh just me being in the game makes the likelihood of a vig go up.

[RCEnigma]

Xtoxm votes would be cool.

[Flopz]

So that was an amount to read. I read half the forum yesterday and the rest today and I'll just say what thoughts have popped into my dome from this experience.

From the whole Maths v RC situation it seems at the very least that they aren't svs. The constant bickering is way too much to be fabricated in my humble opinion. Still, the sudden TR of RC by Math was odd and ellicited a ping or two. I can definitely see the LAMIST accusations at Math too, will need to do another big look over to nail where I land on them at this stage in the game.

Now to the RC v Skitters debacle, Skitters had initially pinged me as Scum which was bolstered in the if Math is Scum so is RC chain of reasoning. However, the way that Skitters had reacted did not seem Scum constructed to get out of trying to spread faulty logic and more of a genuine emotional reaction in the way it played out which more or less flipped my read on its head.

Ari is a big SR for me, for the usual reasons, the Maths pocket attempt was not cool.

UNVOTE:

Gonna be disappearing for a decent portion of the day, should hopefully be able to show up in the evening.

[MathBlade]

VOTE: Flopz

You agree with me too much, plus you didn’t actually vote Ari when you said Ari is a scumread.

It’s exactly the same problem I have with RC but RC had other content,

Bella Flopz Ari?

[MathBlade]

Xtoxm votes would be cool.

Vig or replace would be better.

Ari at least has some content.

[Plum]

VOTE: Flopz

Some of the fakest looking scumhunting etc. I've seen in quite some time. Caveat that the worst look was just the line "Ari is a big SR for me, for the usual reasons, the Maths pocket attempt was not cool." and that alone looks like Ari-buddy material.

[Plum]

By "caveat" I mean I don't think Ari's likeliness of scum went down substantially even though I moved my vote from him for the moment.

[MathBlade]

VOTE: Flopz

Some of the fakest looking scumhunting etc. I've seen in quite some time. Caveat that the worst look was just the line "Ari is a big SR for me, for the usual reasons, the Maths pocket attempt was not cool." and that alone looks like Ari-buddy material.

Do you mean buddy me? It’s hard to buddy to buddy an SR.

What do you make of Ari Bella Flopz?

Possible yes/no

Titus is saying Bella is town to be transparent hence I am not voting there atm. She just says if Bella is confusing she is town. That makes like no sense to me.

[Plum]

Not for buddying you; it's just parroting what other people have said makes Ari look bad in the most unreflective way possible. I don't think it came from evaluating Ari's likelihood of being scum at all. I think he felt obligated to say something about Ari and just said "big SR for usual reasons". And doesn't vote.

Ari/Bella/Flopz - no reason to rule it out I guess? I mean my first instinct with that Flopz post was huge Ari-buddy read and I usually don't have strong feelings about that type of thing Day 1. I've been largely unimpressed with Bella as the posts flow but I need to read her posts through again and consider RC's Townread on her.

[MathBlade]

Mainly the reason I think Flopz is better than Bella is RC and Titus think she is town. They both can’t explain it at all though,

If the majority of the group wants Bella and she flips scum then lynch RC.

If the majority want Bella and she is town I just sign and that is lock RC town unless Ari + Flopz or Ari + you (Plum)

On the other hand Flopz is the safer lynch as the prior player never posted. Then the fact they’d be here then disappeared after they saw I wouldn’t mislynch.

[MathBlade]

So it’s not that Flopz is buddying Ari you think Ari has a buddy that is Flopz?

[Plum]

Yes, Flopz looks like scum with Ari.

[Flopz]

VOTE: Ari I see the mistake and am fixing it post haste. I was gonna do that when I returned in the evening, with some more substance, which I see was a bad move.

Plum, this wasn't really an attempt at scumhunting, The post was just to show I was alive and had read the thread. I can't see what you mean by buddying with Ari.

Maths, I don't think I've said enough yet to count as agreeing with you too much. The only part from what I've written that I've seen you agree with is the last part.

[Plum]

I didn't mean buddying up to Ari.

I mean you look like someone who is scum with Ari.

[the worst]

VOTE: flopz xtoxm there's like a near 0% chance we have a vig

[RadiantCowbells]

i don't like, outright townread flopz, but i think the odds of scum having this entrance are significantly lower than the odds of the majority of other potential poe slots being scum