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[Bitmap]

Gamma isn't lynch pool material. He's just vig pool material.

[Alisae]

shows how much I don't read your posts tbh

[Alisae]

Gamma isn't lynch pool material. He's just vig pool material.

he's not in my town bin!

[jjh927]

I mean I know I'm only being pushed because scum team is afraid of RC.

Why does Bitmap make this post in response to such minimal pressure from me when he hasn't called me scum elsewhere?

As an extra, Bitmap was voting Jingle at this time. I think the only people who had done anything that could be considered a push on Bitmap at any point in the game at this stage were Mastina and myself. At the time, he was at the bottom of Mastina's readslist but she was voting Klick. Also at the time, he was listed in my scumpile but I was voting and pushing Ofrhz.

Nobody was pushing him when he made this post. He had just been listed in 2 players' scumpiles. But he did not elaborate on who the scum that was pushing him because of this RC-fear was, nor has he. There were two options and he was voting neither. If he believed there was any truth in it, I think it would have sparked some action- but it was not scumhunting. It was a defence, both weak and premature.

[Bitmap]

Gamma isn't lynch pool material. He's just vig pool material.

he's not in my town bin!

I know but I'm just saying it to everyone.

[Alisae]

you are nitpicking and biased i win bye bye

[Bitmap]

Jingle was taking mad pot shots at people and not getting pressured about it from the start while I was literally getting fucking shit on 24/7 in this thread.

ofc I was going to scum read him like wat...

[Alisae]

I mean I know I'm only being pushed because scum team is afraid of RC.

Why does Bitmap make this post in response to such minimal pressure from me when he hasn't called me scum elsewhere?

As an extra, Bitmap was voting Jingle at this time. I think the only people who had done anything that could be considered a push on Bitmap at any point in the game at this stage were Mastina and myself. At the time, he was at the bottom of Mastina's readslist but she was voting Klick. Also at the time, he was listed in my scumpile but I was voting and pushing Ofrhz.

Nobody was pushing him when he made this post. He had just been listed in 2 players' scumpiles. But he did not elaborate on who the scum that was pushing him because of this RC-fear was, nor has he. There were two options and he was voting neither. If he believed there was any truth in it, I think it would have sparked some action- but it was not scumhunting. It was a defence, both weak and premature.

bitmap is insecure

[jjh927]

bitmap is insecure

Okay, but it's panic levels of overreaction. This isn't a thing that really happens to people who aren't insecure but the proportions of it wrt the amount of pressure amount to very high likelihood of scum

[Alisae]

and he also can't handle pressure well

[jjh927]

Pressure was extremely low

Inability to handle pressure well is the only reason something similar to this would happen as either alignment. The fact that it is so overblown in proportion, and that the paranoia expressed does not lead anywhere- in other words, it is entirely a defence- is the issue I am seeing

[jjh927]

Like, look past "This is a thing that happened" because rn you're just giving reasons why it happened rather than things relating to alignment

[Jingle]

What chem reads did you like, Ali?

[Jingle]

jj, can you chill on bitmap at least until we get word back from Dunn? Like... Objectively, you're right. Bitmap freaked out with a little bit of pressure. But without showing how that is AI for specifically bitmap that's not really going to progress the game, and Dunn weighing in is the first step to trying to untangle that web. (Unless you want to meta dive, in which case go for it.)

Also, why are YOU townreading chem? I assume it's not because he agrees with Ali's reads that you disagree with.

[Alisae]

Yeah I don’t really think Shadow is scum here

In her scum game with Maria she was a lot less directionless

this and the timing of it

[jjh927]

He's had some fairly insightful interactions with me when I've said things and he's disagreed in ways that are productive to discussion

[jjh927]

Definitely feels like he's actually placing people and solving the game

[Jingle]

He's had some fairly insightful interactions with me when I've said things and he's disagreed in ways that are productive to discussion

Examples?

[jjh927]

Doubt away but:

Bitmap is vying for towncred for when likely flips occur
Ofrhz is under some pressure rn
Gamma is near absent

Again I don’t think the Klick wagon forms as a completely pure counter to scum!ofrhz (or rather vice versa) and no scum push on Klick

Mostly this

Honestly I'm not actually convinced UT is that dedicated to the destruction of anime

Were you not in the last LOTHS

No

Is this where this UT destroying anime shit comes from because I thought this was original flavour

iirc half the first phase discussion was “UT is scum for hating anime avatars” “Ali is scum for liking anime avatars” “Gamma is scum for getting mad at UT for hating anime avatars”

That’s probably wrong but whatever

Little bit of this because at the time it felt useful


and I thought there was something between us wrt Ofrhz but I think I imagined it. There was about 100 posts between my voicing a bit of suspicion there and him starting a wagon but I can't remember what happened in those posts, but it looked like a proper read and he has said sensible things that I agreed with on the subject

[jjh927]

I’m actually light towning the Bitmap slot at this point because of how they’re putting themselves at the center of the game

Would you TR RC for putting himself at the centre of any game he was in

Sort of

Usually scum!RC controls the game but isn’t really at the center of it

That’s poorly explained but oh well

This was sort of a thing too
I knew I'd forgotten about disagreeing about Bitmap

[jjh927]

So yeah there's 3 things we disagreed on of varying importance and I don't think we convinced each other of any of them but I don't really care because it looks like he's thinking

[Jingle]

The latter two are pretty meh, but I actually agree wrt to the first.

I'm not sure how I feel about Ali's reasoning atm.

You also both agree on Mena. Would you mind explaining that to me as well?

[jjh927]

The first was the one that solidified him as hard town to me but yeah

[jjh927]

Menalque looks like he did in gamma's recent upick

[jjh927]

recentish I guess